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Intel Silently Shows Unannounced 1TB BGA SSD
And the special thing here is that is is a BGA chip, as in Ball Grid Array. Intel is to fab an SSD BGA-mounted 1TB Intel SSD.
As the info reveals, the new package is actually larger than the NAND on an Intel 600p SSD. The BGA "solder ball" layout also identifies the package as an MCP SSD (multi-chip package).
If you look at the above photo, to the left you can see a Intel 600p SSD, and in-between the two fingers, that 1TB BGA SSD.
A single BGA package could be soldered directly onto say a standard M.2 PCB, however, the nature of BGA designs is that they often end up being mounted directly towards a motherboard PCB for a PC or (most likely) laptop.
It's pretty safe to assume that Intel will be using new 64-layer Micron NAND. Samsung earlier this month also announced their BGA 512 GB eUFS SSD, that model will be applied in smartphones.
Intel Six Core Lineup exposed - Core i7-8700K and Core i5-8600K - 07/17/2017 04:34 PM
We've been talking and debating intel Coffee Lake for some time now. new information surfaced on the web, including SKU names and base clock frequencies. The big daddy proc would be the Core i7 8700...
Intel Silently Launches Wireless-AC 9260 wifi 1733 Mb/s with 160 MHz channels & Bluetooth 5 - 05/02/2017 07:52 AM
Intel silently has introduced a new wifi0card. The specs are available for download on the Intel website. Typically not big news, but Intel certainly made a number of improvements as the AC 9260 will...
Intel Six-Core i7-970 CPU shipping - 07/16/2010 12:48 PM
This processor was in the pipeline for a while now, yet I am surprised to see it launched so soon. Intel is about to release this product, yet a UK etailer jumped the gun. The Core i7 970 will be cloc...
Intel six-core Core i9 photo's - 09/21/2009 10:37 AM
Thoughy incredibly dull to look at, as they all look the same, the first photo's of a six-core Core i9 processor surfaced over the weekend, this is the Gulftown SKU
Intel six-core Gulftown expected in Q2 2010 - 05/13/2009 08:47 AM
The chaps over at fudzilla reported today that Intel is planning to deliver its 32nm six-core Gulftown processor in the second quarter of 2010. The company has said to a special few that the new CPU ...
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#5504645 Posted on: 12/26/2017 08:18 PM
If we're getting laptops with SSDs soldered on the mobo and no further storage expansion capabilities just to extort the customer I'm going to throw a very immature hissy fit.
Something similar to how laptop manufacturers were extorting money when you bought a laptop with a larger SSD from factory. You want 512GB instead of 256? That's an extra 200 bucks, even though the whole SSD is less than that.
I'm mentioning this because anything's possible when Intel is involved.
If we're getting laptops with SSDs soldered on the mobo and no further storage expansion capabilities just to extort the customer I'm going to throw a very immature hissy fit.
Something similar to how laptop manufacturers were extorting money when you bought a laptop with a larger SSD from factory. You want 512GB instead of 256? That's an extra 200 bucks, even though the whole SSD is less than that.
I'm mentioning this because anything's possible when Intel is involved.
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#5504675 Posted on: 12/26/2017 11:29 PM
Aren't BGA already how SSD chips are connected to the board anyways? For instance, the SATA SSD and the m.2 SSD to the left of the picture have boards with chips connected to them, isn't that already BGA?
By that i mean, obviously i can see how these ones are connected:
But i can not see how these ones are connected:
If not BGA, then what?
And unless someone corrects me, which is fine, according to this simple image search, it seems like what i'm asking is correct?
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF-enUS736US736&biw=2560&bih=1309&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=7M1CWvn7J8qAjwOB96X4Ag&q=SSD+BGA&oq=SSD+BGA&gs-l=psy-ab.3..0i8i30k1.70805.72012.0.72226.7.7.0.0.0.0.141.644.3j3.6.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.5.503...0j0i67k1.0.XavdtXVP3q4#imgrc=iFCtWnOCqTD-uM:
And since this:
Is an SSD from Intel from 2014 with (again i will assume since everything i am finding so far is saying this is correct) BGA chips, then i'm just really confused what is new here?
Aren't BGA already how SSD chips are connected to the board anyways? For instance, the SATA SSD and the m.2 SSD to the left of the picture have boards with chips connected to them, isn't that already BGA?
By that i mean, obviously i can see how these ones are connected:
But i can not see how these ones are connected:
If not BGA, then what?
And unless someone corrects me, which is fine, according to this simple image search, it seems like what i'm asking is correct?
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF-enUS736US736&biw=2560&bih=1309&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=7M1CWvn7J8qAjwOB96X4Ag&q=SSD+BGA&oq=SSD+BGA&gs-l=psy-ab.3..0i8i30k1.70805.72012.0.72226.7.7.0.0.0.0.141.644.3j3.6.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.5.503...0j0i67k1.0.XavdtXVP3q4#imgrc=iFCtWnOCqTD-uM:
And since this:
Is an SSD from Intel from 2014 with (again i will assume since everything i am finding so far is saying this is correct) BGA chips, then i'm just really confused what is new here?
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#5504678 Posted on: 12/26/2017 11:57 PM
If we're getting laptops with SSDs soldered on the mobo and no further storage expansion capabilities just to extort the customer I'm going to throw a very immature hissy fit.
Something similar to how laptop manufacturers were extorting money when you bought a laptop with a larger SSD from factory. You want 512GB instead of 256? That's an extra 200 bucks, even though the whole SSD is less than that.
I'm mentioning this because anything's possible when Intel is involved.
Modern macbooks and quite a few slim factor laptops already do this
If we're getting laptops with SSDs soldered on the mobo and no further storage expansion capabilities just to extort the customer I'm going to throw a very immature hissy fit.
Something similar to how laptop manufacturers were extorting money when you bought a laptop with a larger SSD from factory. You want 512GB instead of 256? That's an extra 200 bucks, even though the whole SSD is less than that.
I'm mentioning this because anything's possible when Intel is involved.
Modern macbooks and quite a few slim factor laptops already do this
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#5504682 Posted on: 12/27/2017 12:06 AM
Old news....https://www.anandtech.com/show/10166/samsung-demos-its-first-bga-ssd
Old news....https://www.anandtech.com/show/10166/samsung-demos-its-first-bga-ssd
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Intel you naughty, naughty boy. Doing things behind the scenes. I got my eye on you bad boy...