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Intel reportedly reserved $ 3 billion in 2019 to competitively block AMD
Intel has been reserving 3 billion dollars aside to offer 'discounts' to its customers, and there actually is a photo to back that claim. The recent official unveiling of Cascade Lake X might already the result of that program as the CPUs are selling twice as low per core compared to the chips from Intel's previous generation.
It is Youtube channel Adored TV that explains in a video a slide what exactly Intel would be doing in order to be a stronger party than AMD, and that is injecting money to create discounts that make sure their customers buy intel processors.
It is quite an accusation based on one slide to be honest. If correct, Intel just in 2019 spend three billion US dollars in that program. The money would be used for example for price reductions. Intel names this 3B program the "2019 meet comp discount," Intel's net profit in 2018 was just over USD 21 billion alone. Next to the price reduction on the recent procs, you also need to think bigger. Such money is probably being spent lowering Xeon contract prices to large customers, which has been rumored for some time
The intended effect if the 3B reservation would include price reductions that would make AMD less profitable. According to the slide, Intel in 2019 is to provide ten times as much money for the competition - The slide is labeled " Intel's Scale Advantage ... Financial Horsepower". Even if the accusation was not made directly, if true it is Intel's using its monopoly against the competition.
A disclaimer, the authenticity of the slide cannot be guaranteed. There is currently no evidence of illegal activities nor is it certain that the slides of Adored TV are genuine, or even from Intel at all.
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#5721814 Posted on: 10/18/2019 03:23 PM
that had me in stitches...
that had me in stitches...
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#5721818 Posted on: 10/18/2019 03:29 PM
that had me in stitches...
I swear I spit coffee on my screen laughing so hard....
that had me in stitches...I swear I spit coffee on my screen laughing so hard....
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#5721822 Posted on: 10/18/2019 03:35 PM
You're all just a bunch of dinguses
You're all just a bunch of dinguses
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#5722001 Posted on: 10/19/2019 01:51 AM
This is bogus. Do you research what GHz or IPC is before you buy a new CPU? There are laws against false/misleading advertising for a reason.
Can you point me to a source? Google doesn't contain much detail on this.
Another old adage comes to mind.... "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer"..... And that was quite a stupid question. However, I'm not in the mood for stupid answers at the moment....
No, I don't research what GHz or IPC is. However, 21 years ago....before I started building computers, I spent a lot of my free time learning about computer hardware and software. I took multiple computer programming classes. I also took an "introduction to computer hardware" class. After High School, I had a job as a consultant for a local company, as well as a job doing remote support and system configuration. These days, prior to buying a new processor or graphics card, I simply find relevant reviews to see if the gains are favorable. If not, I don't upgrade. If I'm buying a monitor, I do the same. I seek out reviews of any monitor I'm interested in. Most reviewers are competent enough to include a complete list of features. I then find a local retailer that has the monitor in stock and visit said retailer to see if the desired monitor is on display to get an idea of the picture quality, color saturation, etc. If I'm still interested, I start reading reviews of said monitor. From start to finish, it can take upwards of 90 days for me to decide to buy a monitor, graphics card or processor.
If you think researching a product before buying it is "bogus"...we know where you stand in the previously mentioned adage....
As for the other topic, it was discussed at length on this very forum and even mentioned in press releases from AMD themselves.
Well since the thread is actually about Intel allegedly doing something nefarious against AMD I feel Intel is fair game to discuss in here.
The key word there being "allegedly".
Since this thread is concerning Intel...and accusations made against them....of course Intel would be fair game. I'd even go so far as to say that AMD would be fair game here as well, since the accusations against Intel concern AMD as well. My issue in this instance is that NVidia has nothing to do with what Intel is being accused of. I'm not even sure Intel actually has anything to do with it considering their supply issues.
The more I read on Intel's supply issues, the more I wonder how plausible the accusations could even be. Intel is already struggling to meet the current demands. Any type of discount, rebate, incentive, etc would only exacerbate the supply issues. In the long run, that doesn't work out well for Intel unless they can ramp production of 10nm processors to exceed current 14nm production limits. Given how Intel has struggled to even produce 10nm processors, I don't see that happening. Just doesn't make any sense to me. Also, why would such a plan be leaked to a "reviewer" that supposedly shills for AMD? Makes even less sense.
Until a more reputable site can confirm the accusations, which I haven't seen yet, I'm stuck on "allegedly".
You're all just a bunch of dinguses :p
I think auto-correct struck again.....
This is bogus. Do you research what GHz or IPC is before you buy a new CPU? There are laws against false/misleading advertising for a reason.
Can you point me to a source? Google doesn't contain much detail on this.
Another old adage comes to mind.... "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer"..... And that was quite a stupid question. However, I'm not in the mood for stupid answers at the moment....
No, I don't research what GHz or IPC is. However, 21 years ago....before I started building computers, I spent a lot of my free time learning about computer hardware and software. I took multiple computer programming classes. I also took an "introduction to computer hardware" class. After High School, I had a job as a consultant for a local company, as well as a job doing remote support and system configuration. These days, prior to buying a new processor or graphics card, I simply find relevant reviews to see if the gains are favorable. If not, I don't upgrade. If I'm buying a monitor, I do the same. I seek out reviews of any monitor I'm interested in. Most reviewers are competent enough to include a complete list of features. I then find a local retailer that has the monitor in stock and visit said retailer to see if the desired monitor is on display to get an idea of the picture quality, color saturation, etc. If I'm still interested, I start reading reviews of said monitor. From start to finish, it can take upwards of 90 days for me to decide to buy a monitor, graphics card or processor.
If you think researching a product before buying it is "bogus"...we know where you stand in the previously mentioned adage....
As for the other topic, it was discussed at length on this very forum and even mentioned in press releases from AMD themselves.
Well since the thread is actually about Intel allegedly doing something nefarious against AMD I feel Intel is fair game to discuss in here.
The key word there being "allegedly".
Since this thread is concerning Intel...and accusations made against them....of course Intel would be fair game. I'd even go so far as to say that AMD would be fair game here as well, since the accusations against Intel concern AMD as well. My issue in this instance is that NVidia has nothing to do with what Intel is being accused of. I'm not even sure Intel actually has anything to do with it considering their supply issues.
The more I read on Intel's supply issues, the more I wonder how plausible the accusations could even be. Intel is already struggling to meet the current demands. Any type of discount, rebate, incentive, etc would only exacerbate the supply issues. In the long run, that doesn't work out well for Intel unless they can ramp production of 10nm processors to exceed current 14nm production limits. Given how Intel has struggled to even produce 10nm processors, I don't see that happening. Just doesn't make any sense to me. Also, why would such a plan be leaked to a "reviewer" that supposedly shills for AMD? Makes even less sense.
Until a more reputable site can confirm the accusations, which I haven't seen yet, I'm stuck on "allegedly".
You're all just a bunch of dinguses :p
I think auto-correct struck again.....
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What I say you gosh darn dingus @Loophole35 No more please.
Let's try this again.
Annnnnnd.... Go
LMFAO!....y'all's post were merely seconds apart...