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Intel reportedly reserved $ 3 billion in 2019 to competitively block AMD
Intel has been reserving 3 billion dollars aside to offer 'discounts' to its customers, and there actually is a photo to back that claim. The recent official unveiling of Cascade Lake X might already the result of that program as the CPUs are selling twice as low per core compared to the chips from Intel's previous generation.
It is Youtube channel Adored TV that explains in a video a slide what exactly Intel would be doing in order to be a stronger party than AMD, and that is injecting money to create discounts that make sure their customers buy intel processors.
It is quite an accusation based on one slide to be honest. If correct, Intel just in 2019 spend three billion US dollars in that program. The money would be used for example for price reductions. Intel names this 3B program the "2019 meet comp discount," Intel's net profit in 2018 was just over USD 21 billion alone. Next to the price reduction on the recent procs, you also need to think bigger. Such money is probably being spent lowering Xeon contract prices to large customers, which has been rumored for some time
The intended effect if the 3B reservation would include price reductions that would make AMD less profitable. According to the slide, Intel in 2019 is to provide ten times as much money for the competition - The slide is labeled " Intel's Scale Advantage ... Financial Horsepower". Even if the accusation was not made directly, if true it is Intel's using its monopoly against the competition.
A disclaimer, the authenticity of the slide cannot be guaranteed. There is currently no evidence of illegal activities nor is it certain that the slides of Adored TV are genuine, or even from Intel at all.
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#5721801 Posted on: 10/18/2019 02:47 PM
So let's start over, no more talk about G-Sync, FreeSync, calling people names, being butt heads. No more warnings.
Annnnnd Go
So let's start over, no more talk about G-Sync, FreeSync, calling people names, being butt heads. No more warnings.
Annnnnd Go
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#5721808 Posted on: 10/18/2019 02:57 PM
This is bogus. Do you research what GHz or IPC is before you buy a new CPU? There are laws against false/misleading advertising for a reason.
Can you point me to a source? Google doesn't contain much detail on this.
You have already been given the source you chose to ignore it.
There's really no need for name calling.
People need to learn to stick to the thread topics. Sometimes it seems like people come here just to start crap for no reason. There's absolutely no need to bring Intel and NVidia into AMD related news/rumor threads. There's no need to bring AMD and NVidia into Intel related news/rumor threads. There's no need to bring AMD and Intel into NVidia related news/rumor threads. It's really not that hard to stick to the thread topic and leave other companies and their products out of it. That's a large part of what's wrong with the world. People have this incessant need to start crap constantly, then everyone ends up getting their feelings hurt and screaming victim.
Well since the thread is actually about Intel allegedly doing something nefarious against AMD I feel Intel is fair game to discuss in here.
You say it isnt about fanboyism, still you bring up hating nvidia, amd victims, etc every time to try to make a point..
You claim i hate nvidia twice, adore is a amd chill, you keep playing the fanboy card. I know your naive, or worse. Fanboy pointing finger, and yelling hate when your brand is criticised.
Well, considering im hating nvidia, probably crying for poor amd in your mind.
Your the mindless consumer that makes it possible for companies like intel and nvidia, apple, etc, to do what they done, more than once. And they will keep doing it because people like you think its ok, you even support it and defend it. You are loyal to your brand, even so if you most likely are on the loosing side of it from a consumers perspective.
If you where less focused on throwing out these stupid labels, you would realize the strategy nvidia is using and have used for some time dosent get better if they suddenly became amd, or intel, apple, google, amazon. Its about the practice, and what it can lead to.
Hate has nothing to do with it for a company to be criticizing them for bad or "shady" practices that can turn out to be bad for us consumers, or marked competition by misusing their marked position. If you cant understand that, you are a mindless fanboy screaming "hate" "crybabies" like you done, ironically when you at the same time state it has nothing to do with fanboyism.. You love to bring it up..
I never claimed it wasn’t about fanboism I fact I claimed the exact opposite. If you are that confused about what I posted I have no reason to even read the rest of this nonsensical post as the premise is already wrong for which you formed your response.
This is bogus. Do you research what GHz or IPC is before you buy a new CPU? There are laws against false/misleading advertising for a reason.
Can you point me to a source? Google doesn't contain much detail on this.
You have already been given the source you chose to ignore it.
There's really no need for name calling.
People need to learn to stick to the thread topics. Sometimes it seems like people come here just to start crap for no reason. There's absolutely no need to bring Intel and NVidia into AMD related news/rumor threads. There's no need to bring AMD and NVidia into Intel related news/rumor threads. There's no need to bring AMD and Intel into NVidia related news/rumor threads. It's really not that hard to stick to the thread topic and leave other companies and their products out of it. That's a large part of what's wrong with the world. People have this incessant need to start crap constantly, then everyone ends up getting their feelings hurt and screaming victim.
Well since the thread is actually about Intel allegedly doing something nefarious against AMD I feel Intel is fair game to discuss in here.
You say it isnt about fanboyism, still you bring up hating nvidia, amd victims, etc every time to try to make a point..
You claim i hate nvidia twice, adore is a amd chill, you keep playing the fanboy card. I know your naive, or worse. Fanboy pointing finger, and yelling hate when your brand is criticised.
Well, considering im hating nvidia, probably crying for poor amd in your mind.
Your the mindless consumer that makes it possible for companies like intel and nvidia, apple, etc, to do what they done, more than once. And they will keep doing it because people like you think its ok, you even support it and defend it. You are loyal to your brand, even so if you most likely are on the loosing side of it from a consumers perspective.
If you where less focused on throwing out these stupid labels, you would realize the strategy nvidia is using and have used for some time dosent get better if they suddenly became amd, or intel, apple, google, amazon. Its about the practice, and what it can lead to.
Hate has nothing to do with it for a company to be criticizing them for bad or "shady" practices that can turn out to be bad for us consumers, or marked competition by misusing their marked position. If you cant understand that, you are a mindless fanboy screaming "hate" "crybabies" like you done, ironically when you at the same time state it has nothing to do with fanboyism.. You love to bring it up..
I never claimed it wasn’t about fanboism I fact I claimed the exact opposite. If you are that confused about what I posted I have no reason to even read the rest of this nonsensical post as the premise is already wrong for which you formed your response.
Edit: sorry @vbetts I was posting this when you posted your warning.
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#5721809 Posted on: 10/18/2019 02:58 PM
You mother fu---
What I say you gosh darn dingus @Loophole35 No more please.
Let's try this again.
Annnnnnd.... Go
You mother fu---
What I say you gosh darn dingus @Loophole35 No more please.
Let's try this again.
Annnnnnd.... Go
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#5721810 Posted on: 10/18/2019 02:59 PM
You mother fu---
What I say you gosh darn dingus @Loophole35 No more please.
Let's try this again.
Annnnnnd.... Go
See my edit. Your post had not shown on my end befor I hit post.
You mother fu---
What I say you gosh darn dingus @Loophole35 No more please.
Let's try this again.
Annnnnnd.... Go
See my edit. Your post had not shown on my end befor I hit post.
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If you can't be arsed to do your research prior to buying a product....regardless of the product and what you THINK you know about it....the old adage "a fool and his money are soon parted" comes to mind....
This is bogus. Do you research what GHz or IPC is before you buy a new CPU? There are laws against false/misleading advertising for a reason.
This is my last response in regards to G-Sync/FreeSync. Not only because this thread is about Intel, not AMD or NVidia but also because Astyanax already responded to this same post.
AMD did not develop Adaptive Sync. Adaptive Sync was an optional feature of the eDP spec used in laptops. AMD simply pushed VESA to add it to the DisplayPort spec for use by desktops so that they would have something to market against G-Sync. When Intel finally releases their new dGPU, they will also support Adaptive Sync. Will you call Intel's implementation of the standard theft as well?
Can you point me to a source? Google doesn't contain much detail on this.