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Intel reportedly reserved $ 3 billion in 2019 to competitively block AMD
Intel has been reserving 3 billion dollars aside to offer 'discounts' to its customers, and there actually is a photo to back that claim. The recent official unveiling of Cascade Lake X might already the result of that program as the CPUs are selling twice as low per core compared to the chips from Intel's previous generation.
It is Youtube channel Adored TV that explains in a video a slide what exactly Intel would be doing in order to be a stronger party than AMD, and that is injecting money to create discounts that make sure their customers buy intel processors.
It is quite an accusation based on one slide to be honest. If correct, Intel just in 2019 spend three billion US dollars in that program. The money would be used for example for price reductions. Intel names this 3B program the "2019 meet comp discount," Intel's net profit in 2018 was just over USD 21 billion alone. Next to the price reduction on the recent procs, you also need to think bigger. Such money is probably being spent lowering Xeon contract prices to large customers, which has been rumored for some time
The intended effect if the 3B reservation would include price reductions that would make AMD less profitable. According to the slide, Intel in 2019 is to provide ten times as much money for the competition - The slide is labeled " Intel's Scale Advantage ... Financial Horsepower". Even if the accusation was not made directly, if true it is Intel's using its monopoly against the competition.
A disclaimer, the authenticity of the slide cannot be guaranteed. There is currently no evidence of illegal activities nor is it certain that the slides of Adored TV are genuine, or even from Intel at all.
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#5720528 Posted on: 10/15/2019 05:07 AM
Law is subjectively opinion.
Law doesn't like to deal with opinion.
Law is subjectively opinion.
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#5720539 Posted on: 10/15/2019 06:23 AM
Whether a well defined law should exist is. A law without a way to understand when it's broken isn't a good law, that's not subjective.
This is why this conversation is pointless.
Law is subjectively opinion.
Whether a well defined law should exist is. A law without a way to understand when it's broken isn't a good law, that's not subjective.
This is why this conversation is pointless.
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#5720545 Posted on: 10/15/2019 07:32 AM
Intel got find 1.4 Billion for anti competitive behavior (ACB) last time they did it. I doubt they will do it again. Also it is not wrong for Intel to lower their price by at least Australia's ACB laws unless they deliberately try strong arm AMD out of the market. For example, If Intel took a significant hit on their products deliberately to the point where AMD could not compete then that would be ACB. Like if Intel started selling the 9900k for $100, taking a huge loss in the hope it would sway people to buy that over the AMD equivalent. My uneducated guess is AMD would not survive that kind of drop.
On the other hand if Intel dropped their price by a bit, which made AMD lower their price by a bit, and so on that would not be ACB.
The second scenario means we have a price war which is great for consumers. First scenario means AMD loses out Intel, loses a competitor and then Intel hikes the prices again with little to no competition.Intel never paid that amount, they're still dragging the case through EU courts
The lawsuit they settled with AMD in the US, without admitting guilt, could've been interesting because US anti trust suits can cost big money, of course AMD was in dire need of money at that time so they settled
Then there's the (tens of) billions spent on contra revenues, no matter how you look at it history will not look at Intel kindly!
Intel got find 1.4 Billion for anti competitive behavior (ACB) last time they did it. I doubt they will do it again. Also it is not wrong for Intel to lower their price by at least Australia's ACB laws unless they deliberately try strong arm AMD out of the market. For example, If Intel took a significant hit on their products deliberately to the point where AMD could not compete then that would be ACB. Like if Intel started selling the 9900k for $100, taking a huge loss in the hope it would sway people to buy that over the AMD equivalent. My uneducated guess is AMD would not survive that kind of drop.
On the other hand if Intel dropped their price by a bit, which made AMD lower their price by a bit, and so on that would not be ACB.
The second scenario means we have a price war which is great for consumers. First scenario means AMD loses out Intel, loses a competitor and then Intel hikes the prices again with little to no competition.Intel never paid that amount, they're still dragging the case through EU courts
The lawsuit they settled with AMD in the US, without admitting guilt, could've been interesting because US anti trust suits can cost big money, of course AMD was in dire need of money at that time so they settled
Then there's the (tens of) billions spent on contra revenues, no matter how you look at it history will not look at Intel kindly!
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#5720547 Posted on: 10/15/2019 07:59 AM
Thank you AMD for helping to get cheaper hardware
Thank you AMD for helping to get cheaper hardware
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Intel got find 1.4 Billion for anti competitive behavior (ACB) last time they did it. I doubt they will do it again. Also it is not wrong for Intel to lower their price by at least Australia's ACB laws unless they deliberately try strong arm AMD out of the market. For example, If Intel took a significant hit on their products deliberately to the point where AMD could not compete then that would be ACB. Like if Intel started selling the 9900k for $100, taking a huge loss in the hope it would sway people to buy that over the AMD equivalent. My uneducated guess is AMD would not survive that kind of drop.
On the other hand if Intel dropped their price by a bit, which made AMD lower their price by a bit, and so on that would not be ACB.
The second scenario means we have a price war which is great for consumers. First scenario means AMD loses out Intel, loses a competitor and then Intel hikes the prices again with little to no competition.