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Intel just unleashed its Core i9 9980XE processor, an 18-core CPU that can be seated onto socket 2066 and yes, it can be used on existing X299 motherboards. The processor gets a suggested retail price of 1979 US dollars.
Core i9 9980XE is Skylake-X family and thus a refresh processor that holds faster base and turbo clock frequencies. The base clock for the 9980XE is 3 GHz, which is substantially higher than its predecessor (400 MHz). The maximum single-core turbo clock speed is listed to be 4.5 GHz, 100 MHz higher than the 7980XE. The all-core turbo of the 9980XE is unknown but from what we are reading seems to be 3.8 GHz.
| Processor | Core i9 7980XE Boxed | Core i9 9980XE Boxed |
|---|---|---|
| CPU core | Skylake-X | Skylake-X |
| Socket | 2066 | 2066 |
| Clock frequency | 2.6 GHz | 3.0 GHz |
| All cores turbo clock frequency | 3.4 GHz | ~3.8 GHz |
| Max. turbo clock frequency | 4.4 GHz | 4.5 GHz |
| Number of cores | 18 cores | 18 cores |
| Number of threads | 36 | 36 |
| HyperThreading / SMT | Yes | Yes |
| Thermal design power | 165 W | 165 W |
| Production process | 14 nm | 14 nm |
| Number of PCIe lanes | 44 | 44 |
The Core i9 9980XE with 18 cores and 36 threads will sell for 1979 dollars, excl VAT. We hope to review the proc soon, but that is totally at the liberty of Intel, of course.
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#5606518 Posted on: 11/13/2018 03:52 PM
Gotta pay for them cores.
Gotta pay for them cores.
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#5606525 Posted on: 11/13/2018 04:07 PM
2990WX here costs 1940€ average.
I'm not going to buy one, but I'd have 14 more cores for almost the same price wile not have my house burnt down please!
2990WX here costs 1940€ average.
I'm not going to buy one, but I'd have 14 more cores for almost the same price wile not have my house burnt down please!
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#5606528 Posted on: 11/13/2018 04:14 PM
I'm not sure what Intel is trying to prove here other than following their distinctly stupid policy of trying to pretend there is no competition.
I've said this before, it's a competent strategy when you don't actually have any competition, but when your competitor has a CPU with almost double the cores for a similar price, I'm not sure it's the most prudent course of action.
I mean, the reality is that while this is not the type of chip that everyone runs out and buys, I'm sure even the most ardent Intel supporters are considering their options at this point.
Actually, these things are distinctly unimpressive and also totally unnecessary as it seems to be nothing more than a glorified 7980XE.
MOD: Video removed, this is a discussion forum.
I'm not sure what Intel is trying to prove here other than following their distinctly stupid policy of trying to pretend there is no competition.
I've said this before, it's a competent strategy when you don't actually have any competition, but when your competitor has a CPU with almost double the cores for a similar price, I'm not sure it's the most prudent course of action.
I mean, the reality is that while this is not the type of chip that everyone runs out and buys, I'm sure even the most ardent Intel supporters are considering their options at this point.
Actually, these things are distinctly unimpressive and also totally unnecessary as it seems to be nothing more than a glorified 7980XE.
MOD: Video removed, this is a discussion forum.
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#5606537 Posted on: 11/13/2018 04:43 PM
I think you underestimate people's loyalty to a brand. When Intel releases something like this, people are in fact convinced it is the best. As stupid as that policy may be, it is in fact working.
I'm not sure what Intel is trying to prove here other than following their distinctly stupid policy of trying to pretend there is no competition.
I think you underestimate people's loyalty to a brand. When Intel releases something like this, people are in fact convinced it is the best. As stupid as that policy may be, it is in fact working.
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#5606539 Posted on: 11/13/2018 04:48 PM
Add in a lot of "lobby" / "seduced managers" at every big firm and some state (gubernamental) dependencies.
I think you underestimate people's loyalty to a brand. When Intel releases something like this, people are in fact convinced it is the best. As stupid as that policy may be, it is in fact working.
Add in a lot of "lobby" / "seduced managers" at every big firm and some state (gubernamental) dependencies.
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#5606541 Posted on: 11/13/2018 04:52 PM
At these "enthusiast" price ranges, value for money considerations go out the window. People just want the best, and this chip will offer the best single-thread performance in its category. I'm sure there are plenty of people looking to upgrade their 7980XE to this new chip so that they can have the best.
I've said this before, it's a competent strategy when you don't actually have any competition, but when your competitor has a CPU with almost double the cores for a similar price, I'm not sure it's the most prudent course of action.
At these "enthusiast" price ranges, value for money considerations go out the window. People just want the best, and this chip will offer the best single-thread performance in its category. I'm sure there are plenty of people looking to upgrade their 7980XE to this new chip so that they can have the best.
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#5606542 Posted on: 11/13/2018 04:54 PM
I'm very happy with my 7980xe @ 4700mhz, 4000 c17 memory
Fast on every task, even gaming. 32 core AMD is usless in other tasks than pure "rendering".
The prize is stupid, but there is no competition on "full package" cpu like 9980x/7980xe. Very fast on everything works for me.
PS: I using AMD 1950x on my server.
Testing 9900K @ 5,3ghz with one 2080ti. Totally crazy fast in gaming. HT off in BF V :p
I don't care about fps/$ or CB 15 points per $. I just want fast on everything. That's why I'm using Optane 900p for OS and programs too.
I think you underestimate people's loyalty to a brand. When Intel releases something like this, people are in fact convinced it is the best. As stupid as that policy may be, it is in fact working.
I'm very happy with my 7980xe @ 4700mhz, 4000 c17 memory
Fast on every task, even gaming. 32 core AMD is usless in other tasks than pure "rendering".The prize is stupid, but there is no competition on "full package" cpu like 9980x/7980xe. Very fast on everything works for me.
PS: I using AMD 1950x on my server.
Testing 9900K @ 5,3ghz with one 2080ti. Totally crazy fast in gaming. HT off in BF V :p
I don't care about fps/$ or CB 15 points per $. I just want fast on everything. That's why I'm using Optane 900p for OS and programs too.
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#5606547 Posted on: 11/13/2018 05:07 PM
I'm very happy with my 7980xe @ 4700mhz, 4000 c17 memory Fast on every task, even gaming. 32 core AMD is usless in other tasks than pure "rendering".
The prize is stupid, but there is no competition on "full package" cpu like 9980x/7980xe. Very fast on everything works for me.
Testing 9900K @ 5,3ghz with one 2080ti. Totally crazy fast in gaming. HT off in BF V :p
Thanks for solidifying my point so well. Despite the fact that the 7980XE does not actually outperform the 2990WX in every test, one could argue it isn't "very fast on everything" and there is in fact real competition.
It's also crucial to keep in mind that your priorities aren't everyone's. Clearly, things like price, wattage, Linux performance, and number of PCIe lanes aren't important to you (which is perfectly fine, I'm not ridiculing) but what you deem a complete package is not shared among everyone.
Furthermore, you're acting like somehow owning the 9900K has anything to do with your performance in BF5. Since you admitted to disabling HT, you could have just bought the 9700K, save yourself $125, and get identical results. So again - you are solid proof that you buy Intel for the sake of Intel and the status you think comes with the name. That's fine, you do you, but you're a solid an example of what BangTail doesn't understand.
I'm very happy with my 7980xe @ 4700mhz, 4000 c17 memory
Fast on every task, even gaming. 32 core AMD is usless in other tasks than pure "rendering".The prize is stupid, but there is no competition on "full package" cpu like 9980x/7980xe. Very fast on everything works for me.
Testing 9900K @ 5,3ghz with one 2080ti. Totally crazy fast in gaming. HT off in BF V :p
Thanks for solidifying my point so well. Despite the fact that the 7980XE does not actually outperform the 2990WX in every test, one could argue it isn't "very fast on everything" and there is in fact real competition.
It's also crucial to keep in mind that your priorities aren't everyone's. Clearly, things like price, wattage, Linux performance, and number of PCIe lanes aren't important to you (which is perfectly fine, I'm not ridiculing) but what you deem a complete package is not shared among everyone.
Furthermore, you're acting like somehow owning the 9900K has anything to do with your performance in BF5. Since you admitted to disabling HT, you could have just bought the 9700K, save yourself $125, and get identical results. So again - you are solid proof that you buy Intel for the sake of Intel and the status you think comes with the name. That's fine, you do you, but you're a solid an example of what BangTail doesn't understand.
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#5606549 Posted on: 11/13/2018 05:08 PM
I agree with you but I think that will only take them so far.
I have opted for Intel up until now but my next workstation box is a 2990WX (just have to build it).
People pay more to have the best performance, Intel is not the best choice right now in that regard (for high core count CPUs) so that is the point where I am not going to pay their premium anymore.
I paid a premium for the 2080 Ti because it is the best performing GPU but I am not going to pay that same premium for something that does not perform at the highest level.
And I understand brand loyalty all too well, one need only spend some time in this section of the forum to see it in full effect on a daily basis, so please spare me the condescension about 'what I don't understand'.
I think you underestimate people's loyalty to a brand. When Intel releases something like this, people are in fact convinced it is the best. As stupid as that policy may be, it is in fact working.
I agree with you but I think that will only take them so far.
I have opted for Intel up until now but my next workstation box is a 2990WX (just have to build it).
People pay more to have the best performance, Intel is not the best choice right now in that regard (for high core count CPUs) so that is the point where I am not going to pay their premium anymore.
I paid a premium for the 2080 Ti because it is the best performing GPU but I am not going to pay that same premium for something that does not perform at the highest level.
And I understand brand loyalty all too well, one need only spend some time in this section of the forum to see it in full effect on a daily basis, so please spare me the condescension about 'what I don't understand'.
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#5606553 Posted on: 11/13/2018 05:13 PM
I'm sorry - it actually wasn't meant to be condescending.
And I understand brand loyalty all too well, one need only spend some time in this section of the forum to see it in full effect on a daily basis, so please spare me the condescension about 'what I don't understand'.
I'm sorry - it actually wasn't meant to be condescending.
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#5606554 Posted on: 11/13/2018 05:14 PM
No problem
No problem
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#5606564 Posted on: 11/13/2018 05:33 PM
But then he wouldn't have "the best"
He paid the price premium to have the best, regardless of performance or value per dollar, which is very typical for such consumers. Just look at the thousands of Apple sheeple who line up every year to buy the latest iPhone - they don't need it and it's certainly not good value for money... but it's the best! To such people, that's all the justification needed. No amount of rational, value-oriented arguments will convince them otherwise.
Furthermore, you're acting like somehow owning the 9900K has anything to do with your performance in BF5. Since you admitted to disabling HT, you could have just bought the 9700K, save yourself $125, and get identical results. So again - you are solid proof that you buy Intel for the sake of Intel and the status you think comes with the name.
But then he wouldn't have "the best"
He paid the price premium to have the best, regardless of performance or value per dollar, which is very typical for such consumers. Just look at the thousands of Apple sheeple who line up every year to buy the latest iPhone - they don't need it and it's certainly not good value for money... but it's the best! To such people, that's all the justification needed. No amount of rational, value-oriented arguments will convince them otherwise.
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#5606567 Posted on: 11/13/2018 05:34 PM
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#5606582 Posted on: 11/13/2018 06:12 PM
I'm not sure what Intel is trying to prove here other than following their distinctly stupid policy of trying to pretend there is no competition.
I've said this before, it's a competent strategy when you don't actually have any competition, but when your competitor has a CPU with almost double the cores for a similar price, I'm not sure it's the most prudent course of action.
I mean, the reality is that while this is not the type of chip that everyone runs out and buys, I'm sure even the most ardent Intel supporters are considering their options at this point.
Actually, these things are distinctly unimpressive and also totally unnecessary as it seems to be nothing more than a glorified 7980XE.
MOD: Video removed, this is a discussion forum.
IMO, Intel does this because of marketing purposes, almost entirely. It's Intel's version of trying to "keep up with the Jones's", at least for appearances sake, more or less. Especially it's true when yields are abysmal...they know they may sell a few to diehard loyalists, or they may sell not a single one--but they really don't care that much these days as to how many of these things they sell--it's sort of marketing place-holder for Intel. Intel looks for volume production for the chips it is actually motivated to sell. Intel has become a highly diversified company, unlike AMD, which is still keenly if not 100% focused on its CPU/GPU tech and product production. Management inside the two companies could not be more different in terms of focus and products. Differences are really showing these days, imo.
I'm not sure what Intel is trying to prove here other than following their distinctly stupid policy of trying to pretend there is no competition.
I've said this before, it's a competent strategy when you don't actually have any competition, but when your competitor has a CPU with almost double the cores for a similar price, I'm not sure it's the most prudent course of action.
I mean, the reality is that while this is not the type of chip that everyone runs out and buys, I'm sure even the most ardent Intel supporters are considering their options at this point.
Actually, these things are distinctly unimpressive and also totally unnecessary as it seems to be nothing more than a glorified 7980XE.
MOD: Video removed, this is a discussion forum.
IMO, Intel does this because of marketing purposes, almost entirely. It's Intel's version of trying to "keep up with the Jones's", at least for appearances sake, more or less. Especially it's true when yields are abysmal...they know they may sell a few to diehard loyalists, or they may sell not a single one--but they really don't care that much these days as to how many of these things they sell--it's sort of marketing place-holder for Intel. Intel looks for volume production for the chips it is actually motivated to sell. Intel has become a highly diversified company, unlike AMD, which is still keenly if not 100% focused on its CPU/GPU tech and product production. Management inside the two companies could not be more different in terms of focus and products. Differences are really showing these days, imo.
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