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Intel Reacts to Ryzen with new Kaby Lake Core i5 7640k and i7 7740K Processors
It does seem that the pending AMD Ryzen launch will stir the processor arena, Intel certainly is reacting. From the looks of it Intel will respin their Kaby Lake series with high clocked models and they will be adding Hyper-threading towards the Core i5 line of processors.
The new information was shared by CanardPC. The i5 7640k would be clocked 200 MHz faster then the 7600k is, which makes it a 4.0 GHz unit. The Core i7 7740K will get a 100 MHz higher clock frequency. These are added on the base clock, Turbo frequencies are yet to be announced. With a slightly higher clocked Kaby Lake Intel increased its lead in applications.
| Processor | Core i7-7740K | Core i7-7700K | Core i5-7640K | Core i5-7600K |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cores/threads | 4/8 | 4/8 | 4/? | 4/4 |
| Hyper-threading | Yes | Yes | N/A | No |
| Base clock | 4.2GHz | 4.0GHz | 4.0GHz | 3.8GHz |
| Turbo clock | 4.6GHz (assume) | 4.5GHz | N/A | 4.2GHz |
| Tdp | > 100 Watt | 91 Watt | > 100 Watt | 91 Watt |
| L3-cache | 8MB | 8MB | 6MB | 6MB |
That's as good as it gets with clock frequencies, the biggest and more intersting feature processor however is to be spotted in the Core i5 range, as you will spot that the 7640k will also get hyper-threading, and that is a huge step forward for the i5 range alright. The TDP of both models would become higher than the 91W of 7600K and 7700k, 100W is mentiones for both K models.
All these changes in an already new line-up does seem a little 'panicy' from Intel, Kaby Lake may have fewer cores than the Zen-processors, but in terms of IPC and Intel should still be ahead - meaning Kaby Lake should be faster in applications and games that use up to four cores.
Intel also is trying to move coffee lake forward and introduce 6-core processors, but is not clear when coffee lake will become available.
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#5389636 Posted on: 02/07/2017 10:25 AM
not the 1st exotic one remember the I5 2c/HT from 1st gen and last gen...
if intel care of Rizen it might be a nice processor... let's see the review in few weeks by Hilbert
i5 with Hyperthreading? Then what would be the point in the i7's?
not the 1st exotic one remember the I5 2c/HT from 1st gen and last gen...
if intel care of Rizen it might be a nice processor... let's see the review in few weeks by Hilbert
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#5389638 Posted on: 02/07/2017 10:33 AM
And why is HT so important for the "normal" and gaming user who would buy the i5?
i5 with HT is good for what?
The cache is the thing we have to go. That's the thing the normal user would feel the most.
If I would need HT I would need a big cache also.
99% of all games can't use HT in a good way. Most games are slower or have problems with HT enabled.
I don't get it....!?
That action is ridiculous.
And why is HT so important for the "normal" and gaming user who would buy the i5?
i5 with HT is good for what?
The cache is the thing we have to go. That's the thing the normal user would feel the most.
If I would need HT I would need a big cache also.
99% of all games can't use HT in a good way. Most games are slower or have problems with HT enabled.
I don't get it....!?
That action is ridiculous.
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#5389642 Posted on: 02/07/2017 10:59 AM
And why is HT so important for the "normal" and gaming user who would buy the i5?
i5 with HT is good for what?
The cache is the thing we have to go. That's the thing the normal user would feel the most.
If I would need HT I would need a big cache also.
99% of all games can't use HT in a good way. Most games are slower or have problems with HT enabled.
I don't get it....!?
That action is ridiculous.
Games started using more than 4 threads recently. I agree they are not many but in 2017 to buy a new CPU with only 4 cores is not that future proof anymore as it used to be some years ago. That's why Ryzen is going for more cores. If AMD does it right with performance Ryzen will be much more future proof than an i5 today. Once more AAA games start using more than 4 threads Ryzen can shine. That is assuming you buy a CPU now and won't willing to change it for the next 5 years or so. If you can afford buying new CPUs every year or two then I guess it doesn't matter.
And why is HT so important for the "normal" and gaming user who would buy the i5?
i5 with HT is good for what?
The cache is the thing we have to go. That's the thing the normal user would feel the most.
If I would need HT I would need a big cache also.
99% of all games can't use HT in a good way. Most games are slower or have problems with HT enabled.
I don't get it....!?
That action is ridiculous.
Games started using more than 4 threads recently. I agree they are not many but in 2017 to buy a new CPU with only 4 cores is not that future proof anymore as it used to be some years ago. That's why Ryzen is going for more cores. If AMD does it right with performance Ryzen will be much more future proof than an i5 today. Once more AAA games start using more than 4 threads Ryzen can shine. That is assuming you buy a CPU now and won't willing to change it for the next 5 years or so. If you can afford buying new CPUs every year or two then I guess it doesn't matter.
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#5389645 Posted on: 02/07/2017 11:13 AM
Lol I love competition.
Lol I love competition.
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If this is true then Intel is indeed in great panic mode. And lol at those 100mhz-200mhz core bumps like we can't do that ourselves by pressing 2 buttons. i5 with HT is also very weird as it breaks their own naming scheme. I suppose if this is true it's a slightly cheaper i7. No need to call that i5 lol.