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It does seem that the pending AMD Ryzen launch will stir the processor arena, Intel certainly is reacting. From the looks of it Intel will respin their Kaby Lake series with high clocked models and they will be adding Hyper-threading towards the Core i5 line of processors.
The new information was shared by CanardPC. The i5 7640k would be clocked 200 MHz faster then the 7600k is, which makes it a 4.0 GHz unit. The Core i7 7740K will get a 100 MHz higher clock frequency. These are added on the base clock, Turbo frequencies are yet to be announced. With a slightly higher clocked Kaby Lake Intel increased its lead in applications.
| Processor | Core i7-7740K | Core i7-7700K | Core i5-7640K | Core i5-7600K |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cores/threads | 4/8 | 4/8 | 4/? | 4/4 |
| Hyper-threading | Yes | Yes | N/A | No |
| Base clock | 4.2GHz | 4.0GHz | 4.0GHz | 3.8GHz |
| Turbo clock | 4.6GHz (assume) | 4.5GHz | N/A | 4.2GHz |
| Tdp | > 100 Watt | 91 Watt | > 100 Watt | 91 Watt |
| L3-cache | 8MB | 8MB | 6MB | 6MB |
That's as good as it gets with clock frequencies, the biggest and more intersting feature processor however is to be spotted in the Core i5 range, as you will spot that the 7640k will also get hyper-threading, and that is a huge step forward for the i5 range alright. The TDP of both models would become higher than the 91W of 7600K and 7700k, 100W is mentiones for both K models.
All these changes in an already new line-up does seem a little 'panicy' from Intel, Kaby Lake may have fewer cores than the Zen-processors, but in terms of IPC and Intel should still be ahead - meaning Kaby Lake should be faster in applications and games that use up to four cores.
Intel also is trying to move coffee lake forward and introduce 6-core processors, but is not clear when coffee lake will become available.
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#5389994 Posted on: 02/08/2017 10:58 AM
https://benchlife.info/intel-kaby-la...x299-02072017/ was posted earlier
Wouldn't be surprised if these are Kaby Lake X for x99 replacement
https://benchlife.info/intel-kaby-la...x299-02072017/ was posted earlier
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#5389999 Posted on: 02/08/2017 11:18 AM
Your remember that quote from nvidia back in the 2003?
nVidia CEO: GeForce FX GPU almost "killed" the company!
A giant that can fall just like a that.
Intel were making money even in the darkest days of their product lineups (Netburst/Pentium) when AMD had clearly better products for 2-3 years. For Intel to feel the heat, AMD would have to consistently make better stuff and hold the edge for many years while drastically widening their market share from the current 12-15%. It would take many years for AMD to achieve that, if possible. Intel also has more control with their own fabs while AMD is at the mercy of others on process development.
In a dog-fight, I would not put money on a chihuahua to take on a pit bull.
Your remember that quote from nvidia back in the 2003?
nVidia CEO: GeForce FX GPU almost "killed" the company!
A giant that can fall just like a that.
Intel were making money even in the darkest days of their product lineups (Netburst/Pentium) when AMD had clearly better products for 2-3 years. For Intel to feel the heat, AMD would have to consistently make better stuff and hold the edge for many years while drastically widening their market share from the current 12-15%. It would take many years for AMD to achieve that, if possible. Intel also has more control with their own fabs while AMD is at the mercy of others on process development.
In a dog-fight, I would not put money on a chihuahua to take on a pit bull.
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#5390030 Posted on: 02/08/2017 01:25 PM
Although it's a really slim chihuahua without an ounce of fat, whereas the pit bull is obese beyond measure. But it's still a pit bull.
In a dog-fight, I would not put money on a chihuahua to take on a pit bull.
Although it's a really slim chihuahua without an ounce of fat, whereas the pit bull is obese beyond measure. But it's still a pit bull.
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#5390043 Posted on: 02/08/2017 03:02 PM
What makes you say that? Intel are already adept at using HT while AMD are barely now starting to use it.
I'm actually quite pessimistic in regards to AMD's SMT solution simply because they haven't done something similar in the past.
SMT as a concept is two threads sharing resources made to be used by one thread. In that sense Bulldozer and it's constant sharing of four FPUs between eight threads, along with its actually excellent multithreading performance, is a good indicator that they'll be fine with their SMT. They have been doing this since Bulldozer's launch basically.
What makes you say that? Intel are already adept at using HT while AMD are barely now starting to use it.
I'm actually quite pessimistic in regards to AMD's SMT solution simply because they haven't done something similar in the past.
SMT as a concept is two threads sharing resources made to be used by one thread. In that sense Bulldozer and it's constant sharing of four FPUs between eight threads, along with its actually excellent multithreading performance, is a good indicator that they'll be fine with their SMT. They have been doing this since Bulldozer's launch basically.
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Wouldn't be surprised if these are Kaby Lake X for x99 replacement