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Intel presented its vision for extending its leadership in the convergence of high-performance computing (HPC) and artificial intelligence (AI) with new additions to its data-centric silicon portfolio and an ambitious new software initiative that represents a paradigm shift from today's single-architecture, single-vendor programming models.
Addressing the increasing use of heterogeneous architectures in high-performance computing, Intel expanded on its existing technology portfolio to move, store and process data more effectively by announcing a new category of discrete general-purpose GPUs optimized for AI and HPC convergence. Intel also launched the oneAPI industry initiative to deliver a unified and simplified programming model for application development across heterogenous processing architectures, including CPUs, GPUs, FPGAs and other accelerators. The launch of oneAPI represents millions of Intel engineering hours in software development and marks a game-changing evolution from today's limiting, proprietary programming approaches to an open standards-based model for cross-architecture developer engagement and innovation.
"HPC and AI workloads demand diverse architectures, ranging from CPUs, general-purpose GPUs and FPGAs, to more specialized deep-learning NNPs, which Intel demonstrated earlier this month," said Raja Koduri, senior vice president, chief architect, and general manager of architecture, graphics and software at Intel. "Simplifying our customers' ability to harness the power of diverse computing environments is paramount, and Intel is committed to taking a software-first approach that delivers a unified and scalable abstraction for heterogeneous architectures."
oneAPI: A Developer-Centric Approach to Heterogeneous Computing
The oneAPI initiative Intel launched today will define programming for an increasingly AI-infused, multi-architecture world. oneAPI delivers a unified and open programming experience to developers on the architecture of their choice without compromising performance and eliminating the complexity of separate code bases, multiple-programming languages, and different tools and workflows. oneAPI preserves existing software investments with support for existing languages while delivering flexibility for developers to create versatile applications.
oneAPI includes both an industry initiative based on open specifications and an Intel beta product. The oneAPI specification includes a direct programming language, powerful APIs and a low-level hardware interface. Intel's oneAPI beta software provides developers a comprehensive portfolio of developer tools that include compilers, libraries and analyzers, packaged into domain-focused toolkits. The initial oneAPI beta release targets Intel Xeon Scalable processors, Intel Core processors with integrated graphics, and Intel FPGAs, with additional hardware support to follow in future releases. Developers can download the oneAPI tools, test drive them in the Intel oneAPI DevCloud, and learn more about oneAPI here.
Intel's Data-Centric Strategy Delivers the Foundation for AI/HPC Convergence
Intel's silicon portfolio is comprised of a diverse mix of architectures deployed in a range of silicon platforms. The foundation of Intel's data centric strategy is the Intel Xeon Scalable processor, which today powers over 90 percent of the world's Top500 supercomputers. Intel Xeon Scalable processors are the only x86 CPUs with built-in AI acceleration that are optimized to analyze the massive data sets in HPC workloads.
At Supercomputing 2019, Intel unveiled a new category of general-purpose GPUs based on Intel's Xe architecture. Code-named "Ponte Vecchio," this new high-performance, highly flexible discrete general-purpose GPU is architected for HPC modeling and simulation workloads and AI training. Ponte Vecchio will be manufactured on Intel's 7 nm technology and will be Intel's first Xe-based GPU optimized for HPC and AI workloads. Ponte Vecchio will leverage Intel's Foveros 3D and EMIB packaging innovations and feature multiple technologies in-package, including high-bandwidth memory, Compute Express Link interconnect and other intellectual property.
Building the Foundation for Exascale Computing
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#5732554 Posted on: 11/18/2019 03:42 PM
I think we're still going to see desktop hardware based on the first-gen architecture, but server models are going to be released first.
So this first generation won't be for desktop at all? Is this what i should read in the presentation?
I think we're still going to see desktop hardware based on the first-gen architecture, but server models are going to be released first.
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#5732559 Posted on: 11/18/2019 03:49 PM
I think it says a bit about what Intel's focus is - it's about winning HPC and everything else comes second to that. That's probably also true of Nvidia to some extent, but they have the advantage of a long history of gaming gpu's so it's not hard to keep that ticking over. I can't see Intel coming at this cold having much hope with gaming if they aren't 100% focused on achieving that over everything else.
I think it says a bit about what Intel's focus is - it's about winning HPC and everything else comes second to that. That's probably also true of Nvidia to some extent, but they have the advantage of a long history of gaming gpu's so it's not hard to keep that ticking over. I can't see Intel coming at this cold having much hope with gaming if they aren't 100% focused on achieving that over everything else.
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#5732581 Posted on: 11/18/2019 05:03 PM
Dribble: that is true. Another thing is lots of Nvidia's developments for their HPC-focused cards, the ones with no video outputs, can trickle down to their video cards. For Intel, they don't have this cross-pollination going on. They have a long way to go and just a few very large customers are paying the bill.
Dribble: that is true. Another thing is lots of Nvidia's developments for their HPC-focused cards, the ones with no video outputs, can trickle down to their video cards. For Intel, they don't have this cross-pollination going on. They have a long way to go and just a few very large customers are paying the bill.
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#5732589 Posted on: 11/18/2019 05:08 PM
Read: High Performance
So this first generation won't be for desktop at all? Is this what i should read in the presentation?
Read: High Performance
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#5732591 Posted on: 11/18/2019 05:11 PM
Show me Intel's gaming partners, otherwise I'm not even going to take them seriously.
Show me Intel's gaming partners, otherwise I'm not even going to take them seriously.
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#5732595 Posted on: 11/18/2019 05:23 PM
I dont know if anyone one on the market needing this, to wait for Intel to come up with something.
Too much already covered by gpu makers.
I dont know if anyone one on the market needing this, to wait for Intel to come up with something.
Too much already covered by gpu makers.
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#5732656 Posted on: 11/18/2019 08:57 PM
Intel can post all the slides of 7nm they want. They can’t even get 10nm working. What a joke.
Intel can post all the slides of 7nm they want. They can’t even get 10nm working. What a joke.
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#5732665 Posted on: 11/18/2019 09:38 PM
I dont know if anyone one on the market needing this, to wait for Intel to come up with something.
Too much already covered by gpu makers.
What do you mean? Having just AMD and Nvidia for discrete GPUs just isn't enough. There needs to be more competition. Nvidia is way too expensive and although AMD is fantastic for compute, their drivers aren't great and they don't have CUDA support (which most servers seem to use). I suspect Intel is going to be substantially cheaper than Nvidia while having the money to really push developers to use OpenCL and SPIR-V. Intel is pretty good at making drivers too.
So, if Intel plays their cards right (and let's face it, they need to in order for this to succeed), they'll be filling a nice gap in the market that AMD can't provide and Nvidia won't.
When it comes to gaming, things will likely be a little bit different. I think Intel is still going to be priced between AMD and Nvidia, but they've got a long way to go to get application-specific optimization profiles set up.
Intel can post all the slides of 7nm they want. They can’t even get 10nm working. What a joke.
I'm still convinced Intel's 10nm has been perfectly fine for a while, but the problem is it can't handle the high clock rates that desktop users and enthusiasts are expecting of their aging architecture. People want a new CPU that's actually an upgrade, and a 10nm i7 with a much lower clock speed is going to be noticeably slower. More efficient, but slower. That's why most of the 10nm products available are mobile and server chips, where nobody expects base clocks beyond 4GHz.
That being said, GPUs normally don't go much higher than 2GHz and I doubt Intel's will be any different. So, I wouldn't be surprised if they will actually achieve 7nm.
I dont know if anyone one on the market needing this, to wait for Intel to come up with something.
Too much already covered by gpu makers.
What do you mean? Having just AMD and Nvidia for discrete GPUs just isn't enough. There needs to be more competition. Nvidia is way too expensive and although AMD is fantastic for compute, their drivers aren't great and they don't have CUDA support (which most servers seem to use). I suspect Intel is going to be substantially cheaper than Nvidia while having the money to really push developers to use OpenCL and SPIR-V. Intel is pretty good at making drivers too.
So, if Intel plays their cards right (and let's face it, they need to in order for this to succeed), they'll be filling a nice gap in the market that AMD can't provide and Nvidia won't.
When it comes to gaming, things will likely be a little bit different. I think Intel is still going to be priced between AMD and Nvidia, but they've got a long way to go to get application-specific optimization profiles set up.
Intel can post all the slides of 7nm they want. They can’t even get 10nm working. What a joke.
I'm still convinced Intel's 10nm has been perfectly fine for a while, but the problem is it can't handle the high clock rates that desktop users and enthusiasts are expecting of their aging architecture. People want a new CPU that's actually an upgrade, and a 10nm i7 with a much lower clock speed is going to be noticeably slower. More efficient, but slower. That's why most of the 10nm products available are mobile and server chips, where nobody expects base clocks beyond 4GHz.
That being said, GPUs normally don't go much higher than 2GHz and I doubt Intel's will be any different. So, I wouldn't be surprised if they will actually achieve 7nm.
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#5732701 Posted on: 11/18/2019 11:41 PM
if clockspeeds are the problem, then Intel have forgotten the things they have learned before.
if clockspeeds are the problem, then Intel have forgotten the things they have learned before.
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#5732745 Posted on: 11/19/2019 04:24 AM
@schmidtbag
Meant for commercial stuff
Those that would have the need for a relevant amount (as in sales), already have something as no one will stop and wait for intel to release something, as they most likely will lose more money delaying a project, than the higher cost Nv/Amd will have
@schmidtbag
Meant for commercial stuff
Those that would have the need for a relevant amount (as in sales), already have something as no one will stop and wait for intel to release something, as they most likely will lose more money delaying a project, than the higher cost Nv/Amd will have
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#5732769 Posted on: 11/19/2019 06:39 AM
Being that the first release of Xe is for HPC/AI....there would be no "gaming partners" involved. The first Xe based products are going into "Supercomputers".... Not everything revolves around gaming....
Show me Intel's gaming partners, otherwise I'm not even going to take them seriously.
Being that the first release of Xe is for HPC/AI....there would be no "gaming partners" involved. The first Xe based products are going into "Supercomputers".... Not everything revolves around gaming....
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#5733033 Posted on: 11/19/2019 07:53 PM
You know when you've been around too long and start stating the obvious? Then people look at you like "err, wtf are you on?".
The first Xe based products are going into "Supercomputers"
You know when you've been around too long and start stating the obvious? Then people look at you like "err, wtf are you on?".
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#5733050 Posted on: 11/19/2019 08:19 PM
Intel is going to be like Supermicro if they keep focusing only on servers and HPC.
Intel is going to be like Supermicro if they keep focusing only on servers and HPC.
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#5733158 Posted on: 11/20/2019 01:34 AM
Intel isn't focusing only on servers and HPC. Xe is still expected to be released as a consumer graphics card. They are just taking the most logical approach. Start with HPC and scale down.
Intel is going to be like Supermicro if they keep focusing only on servers and HPC.
Intel isn't focusing only on servers and HPC. Xe is still expected to be released as a consumer graphics card. They are just taking the most logical approach. Start with HPC and scale down.
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So this first generation won't be for desktop at all? Is this what i should read in the presentation?