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Intel Now Listing Cascade lake 28 Core Xeon processor in ARK (and nine others)
Alongside the Apple Mac Pro announcement, Intel has launched their second-generation Xeon W processors. In total, nine new Cascade Lake workstation processors were launched.
All processors have the same features including AVX-512 support with 2 FMA units as well as support for up to 1 TiB of hexa-channel DDR4-2933 memory. There are two additional “M”-suffixed SKUs which have 2 TiB extended memory support. The maximum TDP has been changed to 205 W (255 W for Xeon W-3175X), and the memory has been changed to DDR4-2933/2 TB maximum.
PCI-Express 3.0 lane is up to 64, memory channel is 6 channels. In addition, a total of nine models will be prepared, starting with the 28-core / 56-thread "W-3275M".
A new feature that Intel added to the 3200-series is Turbo Boost Max 3.0. Interestingly, according to Ark, none support Optane DC Persistent Memory. Currently, Ark also lists those processors as having 64 PCIe lanes instead of 48 like all other Xeons. We suspect this is a typo and we are currently awaiting a response from Intel.
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#5676525 Posted on: 06/04/2019 09:13 AM
I'd be curious too. Not that I'd buy a Xeon, but it's about time they work this out. Well, the fixes from 2018 that is, new ones will probably be tackled 2020 if it's going to be that fast even. And the year isn't over yet...
Do they have HW security fixes ?
I'd be curious too. Not that I'd buy a Xeon, but it's about time they work this out. Well, the fixes from 2018 that is, new ones will probably be tackled 2020 if it's going to be that fast even. And the year isn't over yet...
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#5676538 Posted on: 06/04/2019 10:38 AM
You believe in Santa Claus?
Probably 14nm+++++++++++++++++ again.
All security issues compatible.
And i didnt read any info about them.
Do they have HW security fixes ?
You believe in Santa Claus?
Probably 14nm+++++++++++++++++ again.
All security issues compatible.
And i didnt read any info about them.
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#5676612 Posted on: 06/04/2019 02:07 PM
That cache seems pretty small for a Xeon.
That cache seems pretty small for a Xeon.
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#5676614 Posted on: 06/04/2019 02:11 PM
R9 3900X 70mb L3.
That cache seems pretty small for a Xeon.
R9 3900X 70mb L3.
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#5676728 Posted on: 06/04/2019 07:36 PM
They are designed differently. Zen 2 needs lot of cache to compensate for bad latency in scenario of 2 chips glued together.
R9 3900X 70mb L3.
They are designed differently. Zen 2 needs lot of cache to compensate for bad latency in scenario of 2 chips glued together.
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#5676729 Posted on: 06/04/2019 07:37 PM
Not really.
That cache seems pretty small for a Xeon.
Not really.
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#5676730 Posted on: 06/04/2019 07:37 PM
Alongside the Apple Mac Pro announcement, Intel has launched their second-generation Xeon W processors. In total, nine new Cascade Lake workstation processors were launched. ...
Intel Now Listing Cascade lake 28 Core Xeon processor in ARK (and nine others)
Cascade Lake Core X is scheduled for 2066 socket this fall, more like main stream version.
Alongside the Apple Mac Pro announcement, Intel has launched their second-generation Xeon W processors. In total, nine new Cascade Lake workstation processors were launched. ...
Intel Now Listing Cascade lake 28 Core Xeon processor in ARK (and nine others)
Cascade Lake Core X is scheduled for 2066 socket this fall, more like main stream version.
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#5676737 Posted on: 06/04/2019 07:45 PM
Yes... it really is. That's less than 2MB of cache per core, which is sparse even for modern consumer-grade CPUs. There are Xeons from over 10 years ago that have more cache per core than this; there are Xeons from that far back which have proportionately more L2 cache. There are plenty of other Xeons made within the past year that have proportionately a lot more cache. So, no matter what way you look at it, for a product that will cost several thousand dollars, this 28-core Xeon is objectively low on L3 cache.
Not really.
Yes... it really is. That's less than 2MB of cache per core, which is sparse even for modern consumer-grade CPUs. There are Xeons from over 10 years ago that have more cache per core than this; there are Xeons from that far back which have proportionately more L2 cache. There are plenty of other Xeons made within the past year that have proportionately a lot more cache. So, no matter what way you look at it, for a product that will cost several thousand dollars, this 28-core Xeon is objectively low on L3 cache.
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#5676827 Posted on: 06/05/2019 12:58 AM
Intel... CREED...
Intel... CREED...
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#5676862 Posted on: 06/05/2019 04:15 AM
They are not, these are on socket 3467 design a bit different and they all have 6 memory channel.
Yes... it really is. That's less than 2MB of cache per core, which is sparse even for modern consumer-grade CPUs. There are Xeons from over 10 years ago that have more cache per core than this; there are Xeons from that far back which have proportionately more L2 cache. There are plenty of other Xeons made within the past year that have proportionately a lot more cache. So, no matter what way you look at it, for a product that will cost several thousand dollars, this 28-core Xeon is objectively low on L3 cache.
They are not, these are on socket 3467 design a bit different and they all have 6 memory channel.
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#5676868 Posted on: 06/05/2019 04:47 AM
Do you not spend more than 5 seconds thinking about what you're trying to say, or are you really just that arrogant?
Since when have caches (especially L3 caches) been known to shrink this dramatically over time? It's not like Intel has done anything drastic to their architecture in the past 5 years. Besides, the W-3223 (a CPU mentioned on the same table in the article) has over 2MB per core, which is to be expected. That CPU's design isn't really any different, it just has fewer cores. So, that's already breaking your logic. Surely you wouldn't think that CPU has too much cache...
Meanwhile, how exactly does the socket or amount of memory channels have anything to do with the amount of cache? The W-3223 also supports 6 channels, and yet that has more cache than the W3275, which again, breaks your logic.
To reiterate: we're talking about a multi-thousand dollar product. If this were an i3, I probably wouldn't have even paid attention to the cache.
They are not, these are on socket 3467 design a bit different and they all have 6 memory channel.
Do you not spend more than 5 seconds thinking about what you're trying to say, or are you really just that arrogant?
Since when have caches (especially L3 caches) been known to shrink this dramatically over time? It's not like Intel has done anything drastic to their architecture in the past 5 years. Besides, the W-3223 (a CPU mentioned on the same table in the article) has over 2MB per core, which is to be expected. That CPU's design isn't really any different, it just has fewer cores. So, that's already breaking your logic. Surely you wouldn't think that CPU has too much cache...
Meanwhile, how exactly does the socket or amount of memory channels have anything to do with the amount of cache? The W-3223 also supports 6 channels, and yet that has more cache than the W3275, which again, breaks your logic.
To reiterate: we're talking about a multi-thousand dollar product. If this were an i3, I probably wouldn't have even paid attention to the cache.
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#5676879 Posted on: 06/05/2019 05:46 AM
they have ltf1 , meltdown, with spectre hardening for sure,
For mds its fixed on newer steppings, but it remains to be seen if there intel will be shipping old steppings for these new chips, like they did with the other cascadelake xeons ,
To see which steppings are effected you can look here
https://software.intel.com/security-software-guidance/insights/deep-dive-cpuid-enumeration-and-architectural-msrs#MDS-CPUID
Do they have HW security fixes ?
they have ltf1 , meltdown, with spectre hardening for sure,
For mds its fixed on newer steppings, but it remains to be seen if there intel will be shipping old steppings for these new chips, like they did with the other cascadelake xeons ,
To see which steppings are effected you can look here
https://software.intel.com/security-software-guidance/insights/deep-dive-cpuid-enumeration-and-architectural-msrs#MDS-CPUID
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#5676881 Posted on: 06/05/2019 05:51 AM
they have ltf1 , meltdown, with spectre hardening for sure,
For mds its fixed on newer steppings, but it remains to be seen if there intel will be shipping old steppings for these new chips, like they did with the other cascadelake xeons ,
To see which steppings are effected you can look here
https://software.intel.com/security-software-guidance/insights/deep-dive-cpuid-enumeration-and-architectural-msrs#MDS-CPUID
I wouldnt count on it, ever, as they have lied before.
they have ltf1 , meltdown, with spectre hardening for sure,
For mds its fixed on newer steppings, but it remains to be seen if there intel will be shipping old steppings for these new chips, like they did with the other cascadelake xeons ,
To see which steppings are effected you can look here
https://software.intel.com/security-software-guidance/insights/deep-dive-cpuid-enumeration-and-architectural-msrs#MDS-CPUID
I wouldnt count on it, ever, as they have lied before.
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#5676891 Posted on: 06/05/2019 06:32 AM
Intel offers 28 cores Xeons..yawn.
to me, it feels like the kid who shows off the new shiny ball, just to let him play in the team after the got expelled. for bad behavior.
my 2 sour-witty cents
Intel offers 28 cores Xeons..yawn.
to me, it feels like the kid who shows off the new shiny ball, just to let him play in the team after the got expelled. for bad behavior.
my 2 sour-witty cents
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Do they have HW security fixes ?