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Commenting on Intel's reported plans of abandoning CPU socket designs and changing to directly soldered CPUs after two years, Asustek Computer vice president and general manager of motherboard/desktop business Joe Hsieh has said that the issue will not be as bad as people think, and Intel is likely to adopt a strategy to allow the both methods to coexist.
Hsieh noted that even if Intel's ball grid array (BGA) packaging plans enter the desktop industry, the industry will continue to live on as motherboard makers will figure out how to handle and respond to the change.
Other motherboard players also believe that Intel is unlikely to suddenly change its CPU designs from LGA to BGA packaging since PC processors are still a major profit contributor to Intel. But even without any impact from the reported BGA plans, the PC DIY market continues to face issues of decline.
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#4485505 Posted on: 12/23/2012 02:44 AM
Even if it's a meant to be a "soldered" cpu, it has to have contacts on its surface somewhere, so I don't see the problem. Mobo mfrs. can make sockets for just about anything, I imagine. LGA was made because they wanted the CPU to be able to be either soldered using surface mount technology or socketed, so wikipedia says.
Even if it's a meant to be a "soldered" cpu, it has to have contacts on its surface somewhere, so I don't see the problem. Mobo mfrs. can make sockets for just about anything, I imagine. LGA was made because they wanted the CPU to be able to be either soldered using surface mount technology or socketed, so wikipedia says.
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#4485516 Posted on: 12/23/2012 03:26 AM
1000+ pin count BGA sockets have been around for a long time in ATE. Nothing new here.
1000+ pin count BGA sockets have been around for a long time in ATE. Nothing new here.
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#4485561 Posted on: 12/23/2012 05:55 AM
Wont that kill off the the makers like evga, gigabyte, etc? They'd have to make a mobo with the cpu already soldered on and make multiple of the same one with cpu variations.
Wont that kill off the the makers like evga, gigabyte, etc? They'd have to make a mobo with the cpu already soldered on and make multiple of the same one with cpu variations.
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#4485570 Posted on: 12/23/2012 06:20 AM
The idea here is that there won't be CPU variations, just motherboard ones. CPU features will be software unlocked by paying for codes. Intel is at the point now where they can make processors at an insanely high yield. They no longer really have a need for binning.
Most people here will hate this because it's simply not what they are used to. I, on the other hand, like it. I don't think there's every been a time where I dropped a new CPU on to my older motherboard. Having the CPU integrated allows for kinds of new cooling options on both sides of the motherboard. It technically lowers the cost which should be passed to consumers. It also increases the durability of the chip as a soldered connection is obviously a lot better than just contact. It allows for all kinds of different internal designs because no longer have to worry about pin configurations. Also chances are software unlocking will be hacked so you'll be able to unlock your $100 CPU to a $1000 one for free -- at least in the past everything has been hacked at some point :p
Wont that kill off the the makers like evga, gigabyte, etc? They'd have to make a mobo with the cpu already soldered on and make multiple of the same one with cpu variations.
The idea here is that there won't be CPU variations, just motherboard ones. CPU features will be software unlocked by paying for codes. Intel is at the point now where they can make processors at an insanely high yield. They no longer really have a need for binning.
Most people here will hate this because it's simply not what they are used to. I, on the other hand, like it. I don't think there's every been a time where I dropped a new CPU on to my older motherboard. Having the CPU integrated allows for kinds of new cooling options on both sides of the motherboard. It technically lowers the cost which should be passed to consumers. It also increases the durability of the chip as a soldered connection is obviously a lot better than just contact. It allows for all kinds of different internal designs because no longer have to worry about pin configurations. Also chances are software unlocking will be hacked so you'll be able to unlock your $100 CPU to a $1000 one for free -- at least in the past everything has been hacked at some point :p
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The plan is on track and people are getting dumber, and are starting to not know, something as simple as placing a cpu on a socket, too bad the world didn't end lol (about diy market decline)