Intel launches Hades Canyon NUC with built in RX Vega
Intel NUCs are tiny but powerful mini-PCs. Their popularity has rapidly increased since Intel introduced them in 2012. People use the Intel NUC, an acronym for Next Unit of Computing.
Intel launched its most powerful Intel NUC to date, based on the newly announced 8th Gen Intel Core i7 processor with Radeon RX Vega M graphics with its 1280 shader processors. The new Intel NUC (formerly code-named Hades Canyon) brings this powerful new processor and graphics solution into a tiny 1.20-liter system.
The NUC 8i 7 HVK" (939 US dollars) has a with Core i7 8809 G (4 cores / 8 threads / max 4.20 GHz) or alternatively the Core i7 - 8705 G (4 cores / 8 threads / max 4.10 GHz) model NUC 8 i 7 HNK (769 USD). The units have 6 graphics outputs including miniDisplayPort ×2, HDMI ×2, Thunderbolt 3 ×2. Built-in Intel Wireless-AC 8265 module supports 802.11ac wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.2.
The new NUC will come in two versions: NUC8i7HVK and NUC8i7HNK.
- The NUC8i7HVK is based on the unlocked version of the new 8th Gen Intel Core processor with the Radeon RX Vega M GH graphics, giving overclockers1 the ability to take the system to higher levels.
- The NUC8i7HNK uses the 8th Gen Intel Core processor with the Radeon RX Vega M GL graphics.
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I think those confused as to why AMD would allow Intel to "compete" with their own APUs are underestimating the GPU power in these new Intel packages. These solutions have 24 & 20 CUs respectively in a 100W TDP with 4GB of HBM2 onboard. Compare that to the 11 & 8 CUs in AMD's APU offerings, with a 65W TDP and dependence on standard DDR4 RAM. It's clear that the Intel "G" and AMD "G" series products are in totally different tiers of performance and price. They only compete like the RX580 "competes" with the 1080ti. Some buyers may consider both, but many (most?) buyers will come it with a ballpark budget and/or ballpark performance requirements in mind and only genuinely consider the tier of products that meet their needs/align with their budget.
The second question is why AMD didn't provide a product in this tier themselves. AMD could, no doubt, deliver something like a Ryzen 7 2700G with ~100W TDP, a larger GPU and on-package HBM2. Just to put this into perspective though, AMD's entire Ryzen based lineup come from the grand total of just 2 different die designs. The Ryzen 3 1200 right through Threadripper and EPYC products are all built from between one and four of the original "zen" dies that first appeared in the Ryzen 7 1800X, featuring 8 cores across 2 CCXs with no GPU. AMD's second and final current die design is then used for their mobile (15W) and desktop APU linups featuring a 4 core, single CCX CPU with an 11CU (?) Vega GPU. Obviously lower tier products get cut down, but the point is, there's only 2 unique dies used for AMD's entire Ryzen based lineup of products. Producing a high end APU with onboard HBM2 would require a third design. Sure it would be a competitive and interesting product, but considering design #1 & #2 have resulted in competitive products ranging from 15-180W and $100 - $4200, AMD would likely want something more versatile from design #3 than a niche product like a high end APU with onboard HBM. Intel, on the other hand, have greater market share and vastly more engineering resources, so they're in a much better position to custom design dies for relatively niche products like this. Better for AMD, it would seem, to allow Intel to own that market segment by selling them your product and focus your limited resources on more versatile designs.