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Intel is working on Core i9 9900 KF Series that lacks iGPU, also B365 chipset at 22nm
A couple of leaked slides show some new stuff from Intel, first off with their 14nm production shortage, they will be moving what is called the B365 chipset towards a 22nm node. The chipset would replace B360.
More interesting news, however, is that Intel seeks to plan additional processor SKUs. Intel would be releasing 'KF' models of the ninth generation processors. Listed are the Core i9-9900KF, i7-9700KF, i5-9600KF, i5-9400F, i3-9350KF and i3-8100F.
The models would not get an integrated graphics solution if we can believe what the Chinese description states. if so, these could definitely be a little more friendly for your wallet. When these will be released and with what specs remains unknown right now, TBA.
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#5612664 Posted on: 12/02/2018 04:54 PM
They should overclock like crazy without the garbage igpu
They should overclock like crazy without the garbage igpu
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#5612670 Posted on: 12/02/2018 05:18 PM
By removing the iGPU they would have more space for additional cores, but Intel being Intel who knows what they will come up with.
By removing the iGPU they would have more space for additional cores, but Intel being Intel who knows what they will come up with.
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#5612675 Posted on: 12/02/2018 05:24 PM
It's the price for performance that's matters
It's the price for performance that's matters
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#5612693 Posted on: 12/02/2018 06:06 PM
I would have thought that, but what TIM material will be used, on the K's at least i'd expect STIM.
Also, for the same amount of cores, you'd have a smaller die area. Thats harder to cool than an unused GPU.
It was quite a large portion of the Chip iirc.
edit : on wikichip the die view shows its about 1/3 of the chip on a hex core i5.
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/coffee-lake#Hexa-Core
They should overclock like crazy without the garbage igpu
I would have thought that, but what TIM material will be used, on the K's at least i'd expect STIM.
Also, for the same amount of cores, you'd have a smaller die area. Thats harder to cool than an unused GPU.
It was quite a large portion of the Chip iirc.
edit : on wikichip the die view shows its about 1/3 of the chip on a hex core i5.
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/coffee-lake#Hexa-Core
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#5612736 Posted on: 12/02/2018 09:04 PM
It's just the Only way that Intel can "Shrink" their CPU's to make more parts per Wafer
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AMD just Ripped their $$$$$ Business model.
It's just the Only way that Intel can "Shrink" their CPU's to make more parts per Wafer
.AMD just Ripped their $$$$$ Business model.
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#5612752 Posted on: 12/02/2018 10:39 PM
These are rebadged Xeons, that much is clear.
These are rebadged Xeons, that much is clear.
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#5612754 Posted on: 12/02/2018 10:56 PM
It's just the Only way that Intel can "Shrink" their CPU's to make more parts per Wafer.
AMD just Ripped their $$$$$ Business model.
Intel can sell more CPUs then they can make, so they try to make more. I don't think thats a particularly bad problem to have. :p
It's just the Only way that Intel can "Shrink" their CPU's to make more parts per Wafer
.AMD just Ripped their $$$$$ Business model.
Intel can sell more CPUs then they can make, so they try to make more. I don't think thats a particularly bad problem to have. :p
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#5612755 Posted on: 12/02/2018 11:01 PM
Looking forward to 32nm Silver pentiums
Looking forward to 32nm Silver pentiums
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#5612757 Posted on: 12/02/2018 11:06 PM
Why does Intel not already make consumer grade cpu's without the added waste of an integrated gpu?
Why does Intel not already make consumer grade cpu's without the added waste of an integrated gpu?
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#5612774 Posted on: 12/03/2018 02:04 AM
Is there any person who wanna really buy this CORE I9XXX series??? Just their people that do know nothing of hardware x performance x dollar...
RIP Intel.... ZEN 3 will be the end of line of this piece of hot, expensive and overpast processor to gain 10PFS on 1080P.... (fully ridiculus)
ZEN 3 7NM 5.0GHZ (all cores) + DDR4 4.000MHZ = I9 KILLER
Is there any person who wanna really buy this CORE I9XXX series??? Just their people that do know nothing of hardware x performance x dollar...
RIP Intel.... ZEN 3 will be the end of line of this piece of hot, expensive and overpast processor to gain 10PFS on 1080P.... (fully ridiculus)
ZEN 3 7NM 5.0GHZ (all cores) + DDR4 4.000MHZ = I9 KILLER
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#5612790 Posted on: 12/03/2018 04:12 AM
Reminds me of the i7 7740X from the i7 7700K lol
If it helps with overclock sure that would be nice but if its the same and you're paying the same then no thanks.
Reminds me of the i7 7740X from the i7 7700K lol
If it helps with overclock sure that would be nice but if its the same and you're paying the same then no thanks.
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#5612796 Posted on: 12/03/2018 06:24 AM
Because in regards to CPU's, there isn't truly a "consumer grade" option.... Businesses use everything from BGA Celerons to Xeons, depending on their needs. Most businesses have no need for a dedicated GPU. There have been several CPU's released over the life of the "Core" series that don't have iGPUs though. They're usually released later than their iGPU containing counterparts and lack reviews.
Why does Intel not already make consumer grade cpu's without the added waste of an integrated gpu?
Because in regards to CPU's, there isn't truly a "consumer grade" option.... Businesses use everything from BGA Celerons to Xeons, depending on their needs. Most businesses have no need for a dedicated GPU. There have been several CPU's released over the life of the "Core" series that don't have iGPUs though. They're usually released later than their iGPU containing counterparts and lack reviews.
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#5620353 Posted on: 12/24/2018 02:20 AM
actually the igpu wicks heat away and allows more heat to be transfered to the ihs. its not a huge difference but it actually helps overclocking.
They should overclock like crazy without the garbage igpu
actually the igpu wicks heat away and allows more heat to be transfered to the ihs. its not a huge difference but it actually helps overclocking.
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#5620355 Posted on: 12/24/2018 02:23 AM
This.
Excluding the few engineers running AutoCAD, or some very particular people from Marketing doing Audio/Video work, noone needs a dedicated GPU tbh (using my workplace as an example).
Because in regards to CPU's, there isn't truly a "consumer grade" option.... Businesses use everything from BGA Celerons to Xeons, depending on their needs. Most businesses have no need for a dedicated GPU. There have been several CPU's released over the life of the "Core" series that don't have iGPUs though. They're usually released later than their iGPU containing counterparts and lack reviews.
This.
Excluding the few engineers running AutoCAD, or some very particular people from Marketing doing Audio/Video work, noone needs a dedicated GPU tbh (using my workplace as an example).
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It makes for a smaller die i suppose, if they really aren't binned versions of current CPU's.
The Chipset is a clear step back though. They both show serious constraint at 14nm at Intel Fabs.