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Intel is working on Core i9 9900 KF Series that lacks iGPU, also B365 chipset at 22nm
A couple of leaked slides show some new stuff from Intel, first off with their 14nm production shortage, they will be moving what is called the B365 chipset towards a 22nm node. The chipset would replace B360.
More interesting news, however, is that Intel seeks to plan additional processor SKUs. Intel would be releasing 'KF' models of the ninth generation processors. Listed are the Core i9-9900KF, i7-9700KF, i5-9600KF, i5-9400F, i3-9350KF and i3-8100F.
The models would not get an integrated graphics solution if we can believe what the Chinese description states. if so, these could definitely be a little more friendly for your wallet. When these will be released and with what specs remains unknown right now, TBA.
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#5620390 Posted on: 12/24/2018 06:25 AM
current xeons also have igpu. basically the xeon on socket 115X are really just rebadged core chips so its more like the other way around. these are different i think. by cutting off the igpu you can make a 9900k for the same price as an 8700k (not counting solder of course and actually the 9900k would be a bit SMALLER) and the you can make that new 10 core for the same price as the 9900k
oh and the big thing to remember. with no igpu these chips could be combined in 2's to make the next hedt lineup. a 2 9900ks for the new 18 core hedt chip? sure why not. 2 of those new rumored 10 core chips for a 20 core hedt anyone? actually they would probalby be symmetric. 2 6 core dies (they still make 6 core dies for the laptops and they are the exact same dies as the 8700k and such) or 2 9900kf dies or 2 9900kf's with 1 core missing from each for a 14 core etc.
basically intel will make a ton of 6, 8, 10, and 28 core dies. 2 28 core dies with 4 cores fused off each for the new 48 core cascade lake ap chips 1 die for the cascade lake sp and 1 die for the new xeon w 28 core. then the hedt lineup will be 6,8, or 10 core dies combined. then you will have a 10 core i9 and an 8 core i7 and maybe a 6 core i5. or possibly they will keep the igpu on the 6 core chips and use them for laptops while they new i5 becomes 8 cores.
It's great outlook, isn't it. But I had 4C/8T i7 in notebook many years ago. Then they started to sell 2C/4T as i7. "The North Remembers"
current xeons also have igpu. basically the xeon on socket 115X are really just rebadged core chips so its more like the other way around. these are different i think. by cutting off the igpu you can make a 9900k for the same price as an 8700k (not counting solder of course and actually the 9900k would be a bit SMALLER) and the you can make that new 10 core for the same price as the 9900k
oh and the big thing to remember. with no igpu these chips could be combined in 2's to make the next hedt lineup. a 2 9900ks for the new 18 core hedt chip? sure why not. 2 of those new rumored 10 core chips for a 20 core hedt anyone? actually they would probalby be symmetric. 2 6 core dies (they still make 6 core dies for the laptops and they are the exact same dies as the 8700k and such) or 2 9900kf dies or 2 9900kf's with 1 core missing from each for a 14 core etc.
basically intel will make a ton of 6, 8, 10, and 28 core dies. 2 28 core dies with 4 cores fused off each for the new 48 core cascade lake ap chips 1 die for the cascade lake sp and 1 die for the new xeon w 28 core. then the hedt lineup will be 6,8, or 10 core dies combined. then you will have a 10 core i9 and an 8 core i7 and maybe a 6 core i5. or possibly they will keep the igpu on the 6 core chips and use them for laptops while they new i5 becomes 8 cores.
It's great outlook, isn't it. But I had 4C/8T i7 in notebook many years ago. Then they started to sell 2C/4T as i7. "The North Remembers"
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#5620482 Posted on: 12/24/2018 12:50 PM
Im baffled as to why they continue to even have igpus on whats clearly enthusiast grade CPUs. Anyone buying a 9900k is going to have a dedicated GPU already.
Im baffled as to why they continue to even have igpus on whats clearly enthusiast grade CPUs. Anyone buying a 9900k is going to have a dedicated GPU already.
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#5621441 Posted on: 12/27/2018 10:18 PM
The 9900K is not strictly a "consumer" processor. As I said above, in the CPU market there is no "consumer grade" processor. Every customer chooses the processor that best fits their needs. Whether that be a BGA Celeron or a dual chip Xeon based system. In reality, the 9900K will end up in more business oriented systems than consumer oriented systems. The majority of businesses that opt for the 9900K, need the CPU cores more than they need a dedicated GPU.
Im baffled as to why they continue to even have igpus on whats clearly enthusiast grade CPUs. Anyone buying a 9900k is going to have a dedicated GPU already.
The 9900K is not strictly a "consumer" processor. As I said above, in the CPU market there is no "consumer grade" processor. Every customer chooses the processor that best fits their needs. Whether that be a BGA Celeron or a dual chip Xeon based system. In reality, the 9900K will end up in more business oriented systems than consumer oriented systems. The majority of businesses that opt for the 9900K, need the CPU cores more than they need a dedicated GPU.
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current xeons also have igpu. basically the xeon on socket 115X are really just rebadged core chips so its more like the other way around. these are different i think. by cutting off the igpu you can make a 9900k for the same price as an 8700k (not counting solder of course and actually the 9900k would be a bit SMALLER) and the you can make that new 10 core for the same price as the 9900k
oh and the big thing to remember. with no igpu these chips could be combined in 2's to make the next hedt lineup. a 2 9900ks for the new 18 core hedt chip? sure why not. 2 of those new rumored 10 core chips for a 20 core hedt anyone? actually they would probalby be symmetric. 2 6 core dies (they still make 6 core dies for the laptops and they are the exact same dies as the 8700k and such) or 2 9900kf dies or 2 9900kf's with 1 core missing from each for a 14 core etc.
basically intel will make a ton of 6, 8, 10, and 28 core dies. 2 28 core dies with 4 cores fused off each for the new 48 core cascade lake ap chips 1 die for the cascade lake sp and 1 die for the new xeon w 28 core. then the hedt lineup will be 6,8, or 10 core dies combined. then you will have a 10 core i9 and an 8 core i7 and maybe a 6 core i5. or possibly they will keep the igpu on the 6 core chips and use them for laptops while they new i5 becomes 8 cores.