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Remember back in April that we mentioned Intel to offer Core+ bundles? That is a Core i5/i7/i9 Processors Bundled with Optane Cache SSD. Intel started to push its partners to bundle the processors and motherboards with Optane.
You might have noticed a lack of these SKUs in the stores, as Intel halts these models. Tom's Hardware has found out that no new orders will be accepted after 30 September 2019 That little + means, well, it simply means that the product is Optane ready and bundled. There were merely three Core+ bundles available, an Core i7+8700, i5+8400, and i5+8500 plus a 16GB Optane Memory stick, all are to be discontinued. Optane caching was three years ago, however, most users didn’t find the relative little speed improvement worth the considerable higher price as a regular SSD is (for most) the way to go.
An intersting fact is that Micron made these units, and Intel and Micron halted their joint development of 3D XPoint memory (the memory tech behind Octane) back in July.
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#5629413 Posted on: 01/19/2019 11:58 AM
Maybe becouse 16GB stick is nothing and makes no sense.
Maybe becouse 16GB stick is nothing and makes no sense.
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#5629437 Posted on: 01/19/2019 01:32 PM
Something tells me that it has to do with recent "divorce" from join venture with Micron.
Am I wrong?
Something tells me that it has to do with recent "divorce" from join venture with Micron.
Am I wrong?
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#5629468 Posted on: 01/19/2019 03:21 PM
Something tells me that it has to do with recent "divorce" from join venture with Micron.
Am I wrong?
Micron might be saying the same thing I have been saying about Optane from the start. Intel has no idea how to market or implement Optane and Micron thinks they can do better.
This all started with Intel coming to market with a product that was not ready yet at a point where the intended use case for Optane cache was already in the past. They got both parts wrong.
A cheap 256GB SATA SSD and big HDD was far too cheap to make caching with Optane a viable option.
The only economically viable option for Optane isn't even supported by them. Read here for their interaction with me on this subject:
https://forums.intel.com/s/question/0D50P0000490SECSA2/i-have-a-question-about-official-and-unoffical-optane-support?language=en-US
The synopses of that conversation was that a 2TB SATA SSD cached to a 58GB 800P Optane drive is both cheaper and faster than a 2TB NVMe SSD and that Intel does not care and wont support this.
Something tells me that it has to do with recent "divorce" from join venture with Micron.
Am I wrong?
Micron might be saying the same thing I have been saying about Optane from the start. Intel has no idea how to market or implement Optane and Micron thinks they can do better.
This all started with Intel coming to market with a product that was not ready yet at a point where the intended use case for Optane cache was already in the past. They got both parts wrong.
A cheap 256GB SATA SSD and big HDD was far too cheap to make caching with Optane a viable option.
The only economically viable option for Optane isn't even supported by them. Read here for their interaction with me on this subject:
https://forums.intel.com/s/question/0D50P0000490SECSA2/i-have-a-question-about-official-and-unoffical-optane-support?language=en-US
The synopses of that conversation was that a 2TB SATA SSD cached to a 58GB 800P Optane drive is both cheaper and faster than a 2TB NVMe SSD and that Intel does not care and wont support this.
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#5629512 Posted on: 01/19/2019 07:31 PM
my uncles pc has this, and he says he dont see much diffrence, a HDD is HDD still and that cache didnt help much not like SSD does
my uncles pc has this, and he says he dont see much diffrence, a HDD is HDD still and that cache didnt help much not like SSD does
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#5629570 Posted on: 01/20/2019 02:09 AM
Probably the 16GB module, they should have never offered it. The 32 GB module does both block level and file level caching and the extra space helps a lot.
Compared to the 800P though both the 16 and 32 GB modules are quite pathetic.
my uncles pc has this, and he says he dont see much diffrence, a HDD is HDD still and that cache didnt help much not like SSD does
Probably the 16GB module, they should have never offered it. The 32 GB module does both block level and file level caching and the extra space helps a lot.
Compared to the 800P though both the 16 and 32 GB modules are quite pathetic.
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#5629573 Posted on: 01/20/2019 02:55 AM
Loosely reminds me of Intel's original Rdram/cpu bundles many years back. In the end, Intel was *giving it away* and still couldn't ignite a general market interest in RDRAM over SDRAM/DDR! Generally, when Intel does these kinds of things it is clearing stocks of lackluster, proprietary or semi-proprietary products it has had trouble moving in the normal retail markets. One thing about Intel, though: the company has the money to burn and often burns it vigorously...
AMD could never have afforded the level of mistakes Intel's past monopoly on x86 paid for!
On the HDD front, still awaiting the single HDDs with multiple stylus, multiple-platter drives doing the equivalent of RAID 0 internally... Also wondering what might happen with two or more such HDDs put in a RAID 0 configuration, on top of that! Haven't heard very much from the HDD makers about this recently, though--surely would be interesting to see, because presently the only clear advantage to HDD's over SSD's is sheer storage capacities and cost per GB. They might have already abandoned the concept, though--just haven't seen anything either way recently.
Loosely reminds me of Intel's original Rdram/cpu bundles many years back. In the end, Intel was *giving it away* and still couldn't ignite a general market interest in RDRAM over SDRAM/DDR! Generally, when Intel does these kinds of things it is clearing stocks of lackluster, proprietary or semi-proprietary products it has had trouble moving in the normal retail markets. One thing about Intel, though: the company has the money to burn and often burns it vigorously...
AMD could never have afforded the level of mistakes Intel's past monopoly on x86 paid for! On the HDD front, still awaiting the single HDDs with multiple stylus, multiple-platter drives doing the equivalent of RAID 0 internally...
Also wondering what might happen with two or more such HDDs put in a RAID 0 configuration, on top of that! Haven't heard very much from the HDD makers about this recently, though--surely would be interesting to see, because presently the only clear advantage to HDD's over SSD's is sheer storage capacities and cost per GB. They might have already abandoned the concept, though--just haven't seen anything either way recently.
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#5629588 Posted on: 01/20/2019 05:23 AM
Loosely reminds me of Intel's original Rdram/cpu bundles many years back. In the end, Intel was *giving it away* and still couldn't ignite a general market interest in RDRAM over SDRAM/DDR! Generally, when Intel does these kinds of things it is clearing stocks of lackluster, proprietary or semi-proprietary products it has had trouble moving in the normal retail markets. One thing about Intel, though: the company has the money to burn and often burns it vigorously... AMD could never have afforded the level of mistakes Intel's past monopoly on x86 paid for!
On the HDD front, still awaiting the single HDDs with multiple stylus, multiple-platter drives doing the equivalent of RAID 0 internally... Also wondering what might happen with two or more such HDDs put in a RAID 0 configuration, on top of that! Haven't heard very much from the HDD makers about this recently, though--surely would be interesting to see, because presently the only clear advantage to HDD's over SSD's is sheer storage capacities and cost per GB. They might have already abandoned the concept, though--just haven't seen anything either way recently.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13764/western-digital-2019-16tb-hdd-mamr-hamr
Meanwhile, the company is working on hard drives featuring two actuators that will arrive in 2020 or later.
https://blog.seagate.com/craftsman-ship/multi-actuator-technology-a-new-performance-breakthrough/
Loosely reminds me of Intel's original Rdram/cpu bundles many years back. In the end, Intel was *giving it away* and still couldn't ignite a general market interest in RDRAM over SDRAM/DDR! Generally, when Intel does these kinds of things it is clearing stocks of lackluster, proprietary or semi-proprietary products it has had trouble moving in the normal retail markets. One thing about Intel, though: the company has the money to burn and often burns it vigorously...
AMD could never have afforded the level of mistakes Intel's past monopoly on x86 paid for!On the HDD front, still awaiting the single HDDs with multiple stylus, multiple-platter drives doing the equivalent of RAID 0 internally...
Also wondering what might happen with two or more such HDDs put in a RAID 0 configuration, on top of that! Haven't heard very much from the HDD makers about this recently, though--surely would be interesting to see, because presently the only clear advantage to HDD's over SSD's is sheer storage capacities and cost per GB. They might have already abandoned the concept, though--just haven't seen anything either way recently.https://www.anandtech.com/show/13764/western-digital-2019-16tb-hdd-mamr-hamr
Meanwhile, the company is working on hard drives featuring two actuators that will arrive in 2020 or later.
https://blog.seagate.com/craftsman-ship/multi-actuator-technology-a-new-performance-breakthrough/
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#5630095 Posted on: 01/22/2019 12:22 AM
Perhaps one could use these for Microsoft's ReadyBoost?
Perhaps one could use these for Microsoft's ReadyBoost?
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the idea were good, but never reach the consumer full potential:
-Over expensive price?
-Lack of support?
-Intel only?
Optane cache is dead