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Intel Halts Sales Broadwell-E Intel Core i7 6800K, 6850K, 6900K & 6950X go EOL
In a product notification, Intel let know it will be ending their shipments of Broadwell-E processors, these would include the Intel Core i7 6800K, 6850K, 6900K and the 10-core 6950X
These procs are all Socket LGA 2011-v3 based on the X99-chipset. In it's PCN (Product Change Notification) Intel states the following processors will be end-of-life for orders by May 2018, it involves the:
- Intel Core i7-6950X Processor Extreme
- Intel Core i7-6900K Processor
- Intel Core i7-6850K Processor
- Intel Core i7-6800K Processor
- Boxed Intel Core i7-6950X Processor
- Boxed Intel Core i7-6900K Processor
- Boxed Intel Core i7-6850K Processor
- Boxed Intel Core i7-6800K Processor
Broadwell-E generation has been replaced by Skylake-X based on socket 2066 and it's X299 chipset. In addition to six, eight and ten core processors, this generation includes models with twelve, fourteen, sixteen and eighteen cores.
Intel halts cheap non-K overclocking by closing Skylake BIOS loophole - 02/09/2016 09:33 AM
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ADATA DDR4 Memory Modules Ready for Intel Haswell-EP - 09/09/2014 08:12 AM
DATA Technology, a leading manufacturer of high-performance DRAM modules and NAND Flash application products, is pleased to announce its full line of DDR4 extreme performance memory modules already su...
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#5490740 Posted on: 11/09/2017 02:27 PM
I can't believe intels latest cpu is out....the only cpu worth upgrading to right now imo for anyone with an i7 870/2500k/3770k/4770k/4790k/6700k/7700k and there is no supply and and no 8 core version.
Stopping selling what already wasn't selling...I want to know when people can finally buy what's in demand.
Skylake x and the low supply for coffeelakr have got to be the worst organisef year in intels existence.
You've got a 6 core killer that costs the exact same as what I paid for my $6700k....and they woulf be flying off shelves if there was stock....and no one can get them :S
I can't believe intels latest cpu is out....the only cpu worth upgrading to right now imo for anyone with an i7 870/2500k/3770k/4770k/4790k/6700k/7700k and there is no supply and and no 8 core version.
Stopping selling what already wasn't selling...I want to know when people can finally buy what's in demand.
Skylake x and the low supply for coffeelakr have got to be the worst organisef year in intels existence.
You've got a 6 core killer that costs the exact same as what I paid for my $6700k....and they woulf be flying off shelves if there was stock....and no one can get them :S
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#5490760 Posted on: 11/09/2017 03:12 PM
I think this is big hit for those who got Intel i7 6000 series cpu's,AMD Ryzen made them to wake up and start doing something with it! that's why i never grab the latest stuff out,i will wait for new PCI-Express 5.0 and new DDR5 RAM.
I think this is big hit for those who got Intel i7 6000 series cpu's,AMD Ryzen made them to wake up and start doing something with it! that's why i never grab the latest stuff out,i will wait for new PCI-Express 5.0 and new DDR5 RAM.
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#5490764 Posted on: 11/09/2017 03:26 PM
I wasn't aware these CPUs were still in production... It wouldn't surprise me if they're still selling better than their X299 counterparts, simply because they're overall better values.
Damn I wasn't aware DDR5 was so close to a release date (I just looked it up: planned for 2018). DDR4 sure didn't last long - it'll have been replaced in 4 years. Compare that to DDR3, which lasted 11 years. Seems a little premature to be planning DDR5 considering DDR4 still has issues. But yeah, I think waiting ought to be a good idea, especially for PCIe 5.0 (I personally find 4.0 to be a waste of time, unless you want 10Gbps Ethernet).
I wasn't aware these CPUs were still in production... It wouldn't surprise me if they're still selling better than their X299 counterparts, simply because they're overall better values.
that's why i never grab the latest stuff out,i will wait for new PCI-Express 5.0 and new DDR5 RAM.
Damn I wasn't aware DDR5 was so close to a release date (I just looked it up: planned for 2018). DDR4 sure didn't last long - it'll have been replaced in 4 years. Compare that to DDR3, which lasted 11 years. Seems a little premature to be planning DDR5 considering DDR4 still has issues. But yeah, I think waiting ought to be a good idea, especially for PCIe 5.0 (I personally find 4.0 to be a waste of time, unless you want 10Gbps Ethernet).
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#5490769 Posted on: 11/09/2017 03:50 PM
What issues are you talking about?
considering DDR4 still has issues.
What issues are you talking about?
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#5490774 Posted on: 11/09/2017 04:03 PM
I guess for the most part it isn't that bad anymore, though I don't recall previous versions of DDR having so many problems when they were new. It took 3 years until we managed to see DDR4 modules without abysmal latencies at decent frequencies.
Today there are still some stability problems. For the most part they have been fixed, but DDR4 seems so oddly sensitive. I've experimented overclocking every generation of DDR and in each previous generation, but only DDR4 has been sensitive enough to the point that even when trying to slow down the command rate or increase latencies, I get stability issues. If it weren't for XMP, I'd have a frustrating time getting my RAM to run properly. A 200MHz overclock from stock speeds can result in constant failures, whereas in DDR2 or DDR3 I could do at least a 300MHz overclock on budget RAM without a heatsink and it worked just fine.
What issues are you talking about?
I guess for the most part it isn't that bad anymore, though I don't recall previous versions of DDR having so many problems when they were new. It took 3 years until we managed to see DDR4 modules without abysmal latencies at decent frequencies.
Today there are still some stability problems. For the most part they have been fixed, but DDR4 seems so oddly sensitive. I've experimented overclocking every generation of DDR and in each previous generation, but only DDR4 has been sensitive enough to the point that even when trying to slow down the command rate or increase latencies, I get stability issues. If it weren't for XMP, I'd have a frustrating time getting my RAM to run properly. A 200MHz overclock from stock speeds can result in constant failures, whereas in DDR2 or DDR3 I could do at least a 300MHz overclock on budget RAM without a heatsink and it worked just fine.
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#5490778 Posted on: 11/09/2017 04:08 PM
The memory was not the issue, bios was. Ryzen forvthe most...
Only noobs have problems :p
What issues are you talking about?
The memory was not the issue, bios was. Ryzen forvthe most...
Only noobs have problems :p
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#5490779 Posted on: 11/09/2017 04:13 PM
I guess for the most part it isn't that bad anymore, though I don't recall previous versions of DDR having so many problems when they were new. It took 3 years until we managed to see DDR4 modules without abysmal latencies at decent frequencies.
Today there are still some stability problems. For the most part they have been fixed, but DDR4 seems so oddly sensitive. I've experimented overclocking every generation of DDR and in each previous generation, but only DDR4 has been sensitive enough to the point that even when trying to slow down the command rate or increase latencies, I get stability issues. If it weren't for XMP, I'd have a frustrating time getting my RAM to run properly. A 200MHz overclock from stock speeds can result in constant failures, whereas in DDR2 or DDR3 I could do at least a 300MHz overclock on budget RAM without a heatsink and it worked just fine.
Eh those issues sound more like early platform issues OR a specific bad kit.
I had a first production run crucial balistix 2400 ram that had 'bad' timings. IIIRC like 16-16-16-36.
That kit ran 2667 @ C12-12-12-28 with no issues.
My current samsung kit is 3200C14 and it will do 3600 and same timings, 3200@C12 etc.
Most older gen CPUs can't do that as their IMC is not strong enough.
Not to mention that some boards have bad Auto secondary and tertiary timings and also related voltages that affect stability.
DDR4 doesn't really have issues, just takes more work to fine tune.
I guess for the most part it isn't that bad anymore, though I don't recall previous versions of DDR having so many problems when they were new. It took 3 years until we managed to see DDR4 modules without abysmal latencies at decent frequencies.
Today there are still some stability problems. For the most part they have been fixed, but DDR4 seems so oddly sensitive. I've experimented overclocking every generation of DDR and in each previous generation, but only DDR4 has been sensitive enough to the point that even when trying to slow down the command rate or increase latencies, I get stability issues. If it weren't for XMP, I'd have a frustrating time getting my RAM to run properly. A 200MHz overclock from stock speeds can result in constant failures, whereas in DDR2 or DDR3 I could do at least a 300MHz overclock on budget RAM without a heatsink and it worked just fine.
Eh those issues sound more like early platform issues OR a specific bad kit.
I had a first production run crucial balistix 2400 ram that had 'bad' timings. IIIRC like 16-16-16-36.
That kit ran 2667 @ C12-12-12-28 with no issues.
My current samsung kit is 3200C14 and it will do 3600 and same timings, 3200@C12 etc.
Most older gen CPUs can't do that as their IMC is not strong enough.
Not to mention that some boards have bad Auto secondary and tertiary timings and also related voltages that affect stability.
DDR4 doesn't really have issues, just takes more work to fine tune.
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#5490809 Posted on: 11/09/2017 05:15 PM
For me the only issue is price. i didn't knew DDR5 was peaking the corner, but it might take some time to see it in actual products. Plus, the early adopter price must be prohibitive so wouldn't hold my breath for them. PCIe 5.0, on the other hand, is always welcome.
For me the only issue is price. i didn't knew DDR5 was peaking the corner, but it might take some time to see it in actual products. Plus, the early adopter price must be prohibitive so wouldn't hold my breath for them. PCIe 5.0, on the other hand, is always welcome.
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#5490839 Posted on: 11/09/2017 06:20 PM
Will see PCI-E 4.0 next year, starting with newer chipsets but PCI-E 5.0? not anytime soon, even though specification was recently approved, best guess for PCI-E 5.0 2022 ish.
Will see PCI-E 4.0 next year, starting with newer chipsets but PCI-E 5.0? not anytime soon, even though specification was recently approved, best guess for PCI-E 5.0 2022 ish.
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#5490873 Posted on: 11/09/2017 08:15 PM
so which chipset will become the first to support DDR5
afaik coffee lake still on DDR4 right? cmiiw
and i think the situation is same to AMD part
i read somewhere the spec is planned to be release on 2018 and the actual product release is 2020
so i think it still long way to switch from ddr4
so which chipset will become the first to support DDR5
afaik coffee lake still on DDR4 right? cmiiw
and i think the situation is same to AMD part
i read somewhere the spec is planned to be release on 2018 and the actual product release is 2020
so i think it still long way to switch from ddr4
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#5490882 Posted on: 11/09/2017 08:45 PM
I think this is a good move on there part. Who is going to buy a over priced CPU ? Intel really is at sixes and sevens right now. The New 8700k is a really good sweat spot but only if it can stay cool
I think this is a good move on there part. Who is going to buy a over priced CPU ? Intel really is at sixes and sevens right now. The New 8700k is a really good sweat spot but only if it can stay cool
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#5490906 Posted on: 11/09/2017 10:01 PM
I would be really surprised if we see ddr5 capable stuff anytime soon since, The cost of ddr5 will be prohibitive, especially when those new fabs in china start pumping out dram
I would be really surprised if we see ddr5 capable stuff anytime soon since, The cost of ddr5 will be prohibitive, especially when those new fabs in china start pumping out dram
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#5490917 Posted on: 11/09/2017 10:58 PM
@16nm
Ahh, the good ol, i will wait stuff.
Please enlighten me why a normal gaming desktop would need pcx5,
when even pcx3 still doesn't have bandwidth problems.
Name 2-3, not just one..
Otherwise, please make a button for the fridge saying "I'll wait for the next one." and look at it every day
@16nm
Ahh, the good ol, i will wait stuff.
Please enlighten me why a normal gaming desktop would need pcx5,
when even pcx3 still doesn't have bandwidth problems.
Name 2-3, not just one..
Otherwise, please make a button for the fridge saying "I'll wait for the next one." and look at it every day
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#5491035 Posted on: 11/10/2017 12:32 PM
@fry178
If believe rumors PCIe4.0 will not be release, they will skip to PCIe5.0, bigger bandwidth is needed if in future you want better responding GPU's and other hardware.
You know marketing in 2017 is playing with people a lot,i think 2018 will be best new technology year.
But everybody has own thoughts about what to do and what to buy,now or later,i think now is bad to buy something new.
@fry178
If believe rumors PCIe4.0 will not be release, they will skip to PCIe5.0, bigger bandwidth is needed if in future you want better responding GPU's and other hardware.
You know marketing in 2017 is playing with people a lot,i think 2018 will be best new technology year.
But everybody has own thoughts about what to do and what to buy,now or later,i think now is bad to buy something new.
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Yeah prety much that , i wonder if they still make the kabylake stuff , and if there are idio... i mean people who buy them , since coffelake is a thing(on pappers)