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Intel Discloses more about Alder Lake and Xe GPUs for Gamers
During its Intel Architecture day, Intel shared more info about Alder Lake and Xe (XeSS). In two brief articles, we summarize what intel has been talking about and is about to announce.
Read our preview on Intel Architecture day 2021 - Alder Lake
or read our preview on Intel Architecture day 2021 - Xe and XeSS
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#5939952 Posted on: 08/21/2021 06:12 PM
I hope Intel succeeds, the competition only brings profit to consumers and I look forward to seeing Intel Thread Director Technology in practice and whether it will also bring profits to Amd processors and especially to its larger models.
I hope Intel succeeds, the competition only brings profit to consumers and I look forward to seeing Intel Thread Director Technology in practice and whether it will also bring profits to Amd processors and especially to its larger models.
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#5939969 Posted on: 08/21/2021 07:34 PM
I would argue they have burnt through their credibility as a desktop CPU provider.
In short, their CPU designs are dated.
Fully depends on how the new design plays out, Alder Lake comes with up to 8+8 cores, not quite sure how that works but their main concern is power consumption, guess we can thank California for that.
As a regular desktop CPU for everyday tasks and gaming Intel is doing fine, for workstations I guess they put more efforts towards Xeon instead.
I can understand that it can be frustrating for small or part time game developers but hey, you can always use an AMD CPU that costs more, at least here Intel has been pretty aggressive with their prices, table turned.
Intel's CPU design isn't exactly dated, I can agree on that they currently are outperformed in some benchmarks, but that is about it.
I would argue they have burnt through their credibility as a desktop CPU provider.
In short, their CPU designs are dated.
Fully depends on how the new design plays out, Alder Lake comes with up to 8+8 cores, not quite sure how that works but their main concern is power consumption, guess we can thank California for that.
As a regular desktop CPU for everyday tasks and gaming Intel is doing fine, for workstations I guess they put more efforts towards Xeon instead.
I can understand that it can be frustrating for small or part time game developers but hey, you can always use an AMD CPU that costs more, at least here Intel has been pretty aggressive with their prices, table turned.
Intel's CPU design isn't exactly dated, I can agree on that they currently are outperformed in some benchmarks, but that is about it.
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#5939986 Posted on: 08/21/2021 09:21 PM
Appreciate the comment, but c'mon...5nm chip designs versus 14nm? That tells you the design of the intel chips is dated, and...wtf is 'intel7'? Some theoretical fab process to pacify investors?
Need more detail on this, but the last five years have been wasted by intel and they have been caught up to and passed/surpassed by AMD for desktops.
Intel's CPU design isn't exactly dated, I can agree on that they currently are outperformed in some benchmarks, but that is about it.
Appreciate the comment, but c'mon...5nm chip designs versus 14nm? That tells you the design of the intel chips is dated, and...wtf is 'intel7'? Some theoretical fab process to pacify investors?
Need more detail on this, but the last five years have been wasted by intel and they have been caught up to and passed/surpassed by AMD for desktops.
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#5940013 Posted on: 08/22/2021 12:56 AM
Appreciate the comment, but c'mon...5nm chip designs versus 14nm? That tells you the design of the intel chips is dated, and...wtf is 'intel7'? Some theoretical fab process to pacify investors?
Need more detail on this, but the last five years have been wasted by intel and they have been caught up to and passed/surpassed by AMD for desktops.
It's not all about gate sizes though.
Apart from that Intel's 10nm yield had it's issues, so they used the time to optimize and stabilize their 14nm design, Alder Lake comes with a 10nm design, beside of that, Intel also used some time getting SRAM density down.
So it will be interesting to see what Alder Lake really brings when it comes to everyday use.
AMD did nothing to get down to 7nm and 5nm btw. TSCM did, and I suppose Samsung has 7nm processors in production as well, still, those are just marketing numbers.
Appreciate the comment, but c'mon...5nm chip designs versus 14nm? That tells you the design of the intel chips is dated, and...wtf is 'intel7'? Some theoretical fab process to pacify investors?
Need more detail on this, but the last five years have been wasted by intel and they have been caught up to and passed/surpassed by AMD for desktops.
It's not all about gate sizes though.
Apart from that Intel's 10nm yield had it's issues, so they used the time to optimize and stabilize their 14nm design, Alder Lake comes with a 10nm design, beside of that, Intel also used some time getting SRAM density down.
So it will be interesting to see what Alder Lake really brings when it comes to everyday use.
AMD did nothing to get down to 7nm and 5nm btw. TSCM did, and I suppose Samsung has 7nm processors in production as well, still, those are just marketing numbers.
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My focus is on making money. Who cares about cores? Fanboys or no fanboys. And then all that guessing going on here. Did well with AMD. Now cashed out. Wall Street loves Intel and their relationship with Microsoft, their strong financial position and their own chip manufacturing independencies. Looking for some more "easy stock cash" by Intel's next 4th quarter report. Money talks BS walks!