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#5939550 Posted on: 08/20/2021 04:24 AM
XESS looks like hit and miss depending on situation. The overall IQ is inferior to DLSS. It's a good start though.
XESS looks like hit and miss depending on situation. The overall IQ is inferior to DLSS. It's a good start though.
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#5939611 Posted on: 08/20/2021 10:42 AM
16 threads??? I think you need to spend less time in an enthusiastic forum like Guru3d, because normal folks are more than happy with any modern quad core or even a fast dual core. For them is more important to have a fast SSD than a powerful CPU.
As for games, many game creators have already stated that most games don´t scale well past 6 or 8 cores, so until that changes there´s no point in trying to support more cores in games.
It’s not about supporting games, it’s about making them.
16 threads??? I think you need to spend less time in an enthusiastic forum like Guru3d, because normal folks are more than happy with any modern quad core or even a fast dual core. For them is more important to have a fast SSD than a powerful CPU.
As for games, many game creators have already stated that most games don´t scale well past 6 or 8 cores, so until that changes there´s no point in trying to support more cores in games.
It’s not about supporting games, it’s about making them.
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#5939684 Posted on: 08/20/2021 02:42 PM
Most games tend to top out with 4/6 still (normally going into the later 6 cores these days), don't think i count many who need 8+ crysis 3 maybe was good mutithread but limited games.
Still you're also missing the smaller 8 cores that can also be used, unsure if this mean no hyper threading or each has its own threading cores
hardware unboxed actually did a interesting video showing intels and amds cores vs games, and how it often was not a huge difference once the cache and feq of the cores were equalised with its higher self
One needs to play a game under the Vulkan API.
Wolfenstein 2 The New Colossus I have no problem utilizing 40 to almost 60% of a 24 core 48 thread 3960x.
It's all down to the graphics engine/API.
Vanilla Minecraft I can use 60% to 55% of my 3960x
Most games tend to top out with 4/6 still (normally going into the later 6 cores these days), don't think i count many who need 8+ crysis 3 maybe was good mutithread but limited games.
Still you're also missing the smaller 8 cores that can also be used, unsure if this mean no hyper threading or each has its own threading cores
hardware unboxed actually did a interesting video showing intels and amds cores vs games, and how it often was not a huge difference once the cache and feq of the cores were equalised with its higher self
One needs to play a game under the Vulkan API.
Wolfenstein 2 The New Colossus I have no problem utilizing 40 to almost 60% of a 24 core 48 thread 3960x.
It's all down to the graphics engine/API.
Vanilla Minecraft I can use 60% to 55% of my 3960x
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#5939689 Posted on: 08/20/2021 03:01 PM
That isn't wrong but the fact of the matter is, there's only so much that can be done to increase the per-core performance. You can add more instructions, but they don't contribute to anything unless programmers actually use them. You can boost clock speeds, but only if the power and thermal envelope allow it. You can shrink the transistors, but only if the technology exists to do so. Granted, most software isn't optimized to use more than 4 threads (or really, 1 thread), but having more cores does at least improve overall system performance (particularly in multitasking) even if it doesn't improve an individual application's performance. That being said, I have a hard time understanding why any gamer needs more than 16 threads, even 12 is more than enough.
the fact fanboys still evaluate how powerful or advance a CPU is by the number of its cores shows they know nothing about technology...
That isn't wrong but the fact of the matter is, there's only so much that can be done to increase the per-core performance. You can add more instructions, but they don't contribute to anything unless programmers actually use them. You can boost clock speeds, but only if the power and thermal envelope allow it. You can shrink the transistors, but only if the technology exists to do so. Granted, most software isn't optimized to use more than 4 threads (or really, 1 thread), but having more cores does at least improve overall system performance (particularly in multitasking) even if it doesn't improve an individual application's performance. That being said, I have a hard time understanding why any gamer needs more than 16 threads, even 12 is more than enough.
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16 threads??? I think you need to spend less time in an enthusiastic forum like Guru3d, because normal folks are more than happy with any modern quad core or even a fast dual core. For them is more important to have a fast SSD than a powerful CPU.
As for games, many game creators have already stated that most games don´t scale well past 6 or 8 cores, so until that changes there´s no point in trying to support more cores in games.\
Not to forget that threads don't equal cores.
If I still was with my old CPU and was about to upgrade today I would go with a CPU from Intel instead of one from AMD.