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Intel Core i9-7900X review published
The lads over at Hexus published the first review of an Intel Core-X series processor, the Core i9-7900X. Pretty much like any media in the EU they as well didn't a sample for review from Intel, yet borrowed one somewhere. Hence they do not abide to the Intel NDA / embargo date.
Since they do not mention what motherboard was used it loos like one of the motherboard makers provided their Core i9 7900X sample. Much like what I am experiencing with our test-setup the X299 platform still needs a lot of tweaks and updates to get perf up-to snuff. There are no photos posted of the processor published. Despite us being in exactly the same scenario, we will abide the NDA date on Monday before we publish our own results out of respect to the partner that provided us our sample, plain and simple. Check out the review, below some of the benchmarks Hexus published. Give them a visit and be sure to read their content.
Intel Core X series up-to 10 Cores on Preorder - 18-core in October - 06/13/2017 06:39 AM
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Computex 2017: Intel Core i9 Launches With up-to 10 cores first - Does 4.3 GHz on LCS - 06/03/2017 08:05 AM
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#5443816 Posted on: 06/16/2017 06:38 PM
Hmm building a pc for a friend soon and I was waiting to see how the 6 core is on these new chips but I think I will build him a ryzen build still.
Hmm building a pc for a friend soon and I was waiting to see how the 6 core is on these new chips but I think I will build him a ryzen build still.
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#5443817 Posted on: 06/16/2017 06:39 PM
So you're basically going to have to delid that £1000 CPU if you want any decent OCing headroom out of it without it cooking itself...
So you're basically going to have to delid that £1000 CPU if you want any decent OCing headroom out of it without it cooking itself...
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#5443820 Posted on: 06/16/2017 06:46 PM
Where are you seeing temps? i've let to find any review that talks about temps, just that they reach 4.6/4.7ghz on them... with fine tuning maybe you could hit 4.7ghz, but these were always going to run hot they always do.
Performance jump seems to be about 5-10% when you take into account the extra 500mhz on the core clock and depending on the program being used, which i guess was expected.
Look forward to seeing your view HH, as well as the upcoming review of threadripper to see how AMD's chips will hold up
EDIT: Nevermind found a page about temps, 100 Degrees on LCS with the 4.7ghz OC :/
So you're basically going to have to delid that £1000 CPU if you want any decent OCing headroom out of it without it cooking itself...
Where are you seeing temps? i've let to find any review that talks about temps, just that they reach 4.6/4.7ghz on them... with fine tuning maybe you could hit 4.7ghz, but these were always going to run hot they always do.
Performance jump seems to be about 5-10% when you take into account the extra 500mhz on the core clock and depending on the program being used, which i guess was expected.
Look forward to seeing your view HH, as well as the upcoming review of threadripper to see how AMD's chips will hold up
EDIT: Nevermind found a page about temps, 100 Degrees on LCS with the 4.7ghz OC :/
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#5443822 Posted on: 06/16/2017 06:50 PM
Where are you seeing temps? i've let to find any review that talks about temps, just that they reach 4.6/4.7ghz on them... with fine tuning maybe you could hit 4.7ghz, but these were always going to run hot they always do.
Performance jump seems to be about 5-10% when you take into account the extra 500mhz on the core clock and depending on the program being used, which i guess was expected.
Look forward to seeing your view HH, as well as the upcoming review of threadripper to see how AMD's chips will hold up
Intel's OC headroom has been crap on all the chips with the TIM rather than solder. Run very hot. Delidding is the only way to get decent temps out of 'em.
Where are you seeing temps? i've let to find any review that talks about temps, just that they reach 4.6/4.7ghz on them... with fine tuning maybe you could hit 4.7ghz, but these were always going to run hot they always do.
Performance jump seems to be about 5-10% when you take into account the extra 500mhz on the core clock and depending on the program being used, which i guess was expected.
Look forward to seeing your view HH, as well as the upcoming review of threadripper to see how AMD's chips will hold up
Intel's OC headroom has been crap on all the chips with the TIM rather than solder. Run very hot. Delidding is the only way to get decent temps out of 'em.
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#5443824 Posted on: 06/16/2017 06:54 PM
Yeah, just seen a guy push it to 5ghz delidding it getting from what i saw around 85-90 degrees on a corsair AIO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoies2JcmI
Intel's OC headroom has been crap on all the chips with the TIM rather than solder. Run very hot. Delidding is the only way to get decent temps out of 'em.
Yeah, just seen a guy push it to 5ghz delidding it getting from what i saw around 85-90 degrees on a corsair AIO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoies2JcmI
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#5443825 Posted on: 06/16/2017 06:55 PM
Wow 4.7Ghz at 1.25v? I'm not sure I believe that.
Wow 4.7Ghz at 1.25v? I'm not sure I believe that.
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#5443830 Posted on: 06/16/2017 07:00 PM
From what I've experience deus ex manking dividednis basicially exclusivdly gpu taxing....I would love to see one of the dragon age games benched bencause they always scalednextremely well with core count.
All these synthetic benches mean nothing to me.
From what I've experience deus ex manking dividednis basicially exclusivdly gpu taxing....I would love to see one of the dragon age games benched bencause they always scalednextremely well with core count.
All these synthetic benches mean nothing to me.
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#5443832 Posted on: 06/16/2017 07:09 PM
At first I was like "wow they really took a big performance leap compared to the 6950X" until I realized it has a 500MHz gain and the hefty wattage.
According to a review by Bit-Tech, it seems there's up-to a ~10% improvement clock-per-clock.
Yeah, the numbers are quite impressive, for both the cinebench (good) and the wattage / temps (bad). Seems they've gone all out maximizing performance, at the cost of power efficiency.
At first I was like "wow they really took a big performance leap compared to the 6950X" until I realized it has a 500MHz gain and the hefty wattage.
According to a review by Bit-Tech, it seems there's up-to a ~10% improvement clock-per-clock.
Yeah, the numbers are quite impressive, for both the cinebench (good) and the wattage / temps (bad). Seems they've gone all out maximizing performance, at the cost of power efficiency.
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#5443848 Posted on: 06/16/2017 08:00 PM
This is what happens when Intel ignores the EU those pesky NDA's just don't apply.
I see another review from bit-tech as well. The 6950X does win in a few cases which is odd I wonder if Intels L3 reduction and more L2 cache is hurting performance in a few cases.
https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/06/16/intel-core-i9-7900x-and-x299-chipset-revie/1
This is what happens when Intel ignores the EU those pesky NDA's just don't apply.
I see another review from bit-tech as well. The 6950X does win in a few cases which is odd I wonder if Intels L3 reduction and more L2 cache is hurting performance in a few cases.
https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/06/16/intel-core-i9-7900x-and-x299-chipset-revie/1
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#5443852 Posted on: 06/16/2017 08:11 PM
I agree that intel should really be using solder on all their chips and they should have something more high end for their IHS than nickel plated copper alloy. Their big chips used solder for the last few years and they were rated Conflict Mineral Free, so sourcing Conflict Free solder shouldnt be that hard.
Diamond metal matrix composite IHS have existed for years, and could be a differentiating selling point for their high end chips as well.
That would eliminate the need to delid and probably to liquid cool as well, give a big boot to overclocking and justify their margins.
Intel's OC headroom has been crap on all the chips with the TIM rather than solder. Run very hot. Delidding is the only way to get decent temps out of 'em.
I agree that intel should really be using solder on all their chips and they should have something more high end for their IHS than nickel plated copper alloy. Their big chips used solder for the last few years and they were rated Conflict Mineral Free, so sourcing Conflict Free solder shouldnt be that hard.
Diamond metal matrix composite IHS have existed for years, and could be a differentiating selling point for their high end chips as well.
That would eliminate the need to delid and probably to liquid cool as well, give a big boot to overclocking and justify their margins.
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#5443876 Posted on: 06/16/2017 09:26 PM
Intel still believes this CPU is worth $999.
LOL.
Intel still believes this CPU is worth $999.
LOL.
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#5443878 Posted on: 06/16/2017 09:35 PM
Intel still believes this CPU is worth $999.
LOL.
Well, right now they can charge whatever they want since AMD currently doesn't have a competing product, and because they know people are going to buy it. What will be laughable is if Intel keeps this price point after AMD releases their 16 core for an equal or lower price.
Intel still believes this CPU is worth $999.
LOL.
Well, right now they can charge whatever they want since AMD currently doesn't have a competing product, and because they know people are going to buy it. What will be laughable is if Intel keeps this price point after AMD releases their 16 core for an equal or lower price.
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#5443884 Posted on: 06/16/2017 09:41 PM
I can't believe that anyone can't wait two weeks to get what looks to be a product which looks to be at least 1.5x perf/dollar.
This is not the old days where they were really alone, they aren't any more.
Well, right now they can charge whatever they want since AMD currently doesn't have a competing product, and because they know people are going to buy it. What will be laughable is if Intel keeps this price point after AMD releases their 16 core for an equal or lower price.
I can't believe that anyone can't wait two weeks to get what looks to be a product which looks to be at least 1.5x perf/dollar.
This is not the old days where they were really alone, they aren't any more.
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#5443887 Posted on: 06/16/2017 09:55 PM
I can't believe that anyone can't wait two weeks to get what looks to be a product which looks to be at least 1.5x perf/dollar.
This is not the old days where they were really alone, they aren't any more.
Being devil's advocate: There's a good chance TR won't overclock as high; the only attraction of i9 is how high you can push it. This is of course assuming anyone is willing to deal with the expense of a high-end cooling system and a higher electric bill.
But take a look around the internet and you'll find plenty of people drooling over i9, while not even aware TR is a thing. Look at forums discussing i9 or TR, and you'll find people strongly defending i9 or have low hopes for TR. Most people don't even have a realistic use for an i9, yet so many people still want one. It doesn't have to make sense - people will still buy it. That's what brand loyalty and envy accomplishes.
I can't believe that anyone can't wait two weeks to get what looks to be a product which looks to be at least 1.5x perf/dollar.
This is not the old days where they were really alone, they aren't any more.
Being devil's advocate: There's a good chance TR won't overclock as high; the only attraction of i9 is how high you can push it. This is of course assuming anyone is willing to deal with the expense of a high-end cooling system and a higher electric bill.
But take a look around the internet and you'll find plenty of people drooling over i9, while not even aware TR is a thing. Look at forums discussing i9 or TR, and you'll find people strongly defending i9 or have low hopes for TR. Most people don't even have a realistic use for an i9, yet so many people still want one. It doesn't have to make sense - people will still buy it. That's what brand loyalty and envy accomplishes.
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At first I was like "wow they really took a big performance leap compared to the 6950X" until I realized it has a 500MHz gain and the hefty wattage.
According to a review by Bit-Tech, it seems there's up-to a ~10% improvement clock-per-clock.