Intel Core i7-8709G with Vega M Graphics
A video surfaced on the web today, in it a System information scan from Futuremark and showing, a quad-core and eight threaded Intel Core i7-8709G with Vega M Graphics. And according to chatter on the web, a six-core part assisted by a Vega IGP is also in the works.
Yup, you read that right, an Intel Core i7-8709G with Vega M Graphics. That means up-to-now Core i7-8709G and Core i7-8809G are names that have emerged, a quad-core Intel processor with AMD Radeon IGP, based on Vega architecture with a product ID of 694C:C0. The hybrid solution is called a multi-chip module, combining an Intel processor and an AMD (Vega) graphics unit. Have a peek at the quick video as posted by Thai PC and tech vlogger "TUM APISAK":
The 8709G would come with a Turbo up to 3.9 GHz, the base clock seems to be 3.1 GHz. There is hardly any information about the GPU clock, some tools have read 1.0 to 1.2 GHz, HBM2 is very likely used, as the memory clock frequency is reported back at 800 MHz. Earlier on a photo surfaced online showing the massively huge MCM design. On the left-hand side of the photo, you can see the Intel processor and to the left, the larger AMD GPU with the HBM2 stack.
A 14nm Vega architecture was the choice for the GPU, Intel also mentioned the usage of HBM2. Earlier this year Intel already announced their Embedded Multi-Die Interconnect Bridge (EMIB) making these things (a second die) possible, for modular builds. The Intel and the AMD part communicate over what basically is a PCIe Gen 3.0 bridge wired in-between each other. The first products based on MCMs will likely be embedded products and laptops, they should launch by Q1 2018.
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So is this what Intel/AMD have come up with to take on Nvidia Laptop GPU's? If so, can only be a good thing, just as in the desktop space, Nvidia dominates the laptop market.
..although I can't see these first generation parts beating out the top end 1070/1080 mobile chips TBH.
...or the second, or the third...
5-10 years to reach current competitor performance maybe?
Even on discrete GPU cards AMD needs a HUGE amount of power (and make a lot more heat) than Nvidia competition to fall short in performance.
Now the mandatory weaker integrated AMD GPU chip into this CPU (underclocked, low temp) will need "some" gens to catch current Nvidia laptop GPUs.
This isn't comparable to the MXM cards.
How many watts are the 1070/1080 Mobile again ? The same as this entire CPU+GPU, if not more ?

How many Nvidia products are in Apple products ?
This isn't the same market as the huge Nvidia MXM chips, so it doesn't need to compete against them.
Also, Vega is pretty power efficient in the 1200-1400MHz range, but thats not why you are here, is it ?

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I can't even describe how much I dislike intel's iGPU drivers. For people who want intel CPU, but dislike their iGPU/drivers...
Still nothing for me. But I am interested in seeing who ordered such thing. Maybe Gaming console? maybe Apple-something?
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This isn't the same market as the huge Nvidia MXM chips, so it doesn't need to compete against them.
Also, Vega is pretty power efficient in the 1200-1400MHz range, but thats not why you are here, is it ?

Yes this product (as show: desktop motherboard) will not compete against laptop MXM.They better don't try to use it in a possible "gamer laptop" it will be another disaster for AMD reputation among gamers.
Power efficiency? Compared to what? Intel current iGPUs?

I think Intel made a good deal: externalize all iGPU related dev and hire the ex-exec in charge of AMD GPUs to handle the whole thing (MCM design).Intel own iGPUs were only usable in office tasks.
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I expect these CPUs to cost more than Broadwell because of integrated HBM2 memory alone. If that's the case...I don't expect them to be popular.
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Yes ,Intel's IGP is still there, AMD's graphic chip is connected to CPU with glue(hehehe