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Tech Youtuber Karl Morin ran a Cinebench with Intel Core i7-8700K on a HP Omen PC. Intel's six core and twelve threads processor scored 1230 points in the multicore test. And that number is good enough to use in a bit of an overview.
Morin was attending at an event showcasing the HP Omen PC with the new Intel processor. Karl recorded a thing or two, however with an incredibly poor quality video. So, the PC did not have a monitor active yet Morin got ballsy and disconnected another monitor and closed it on the PC, then ran Cinebench. Below the multi-core result, I placed them into on of our own charts to compare with:
So I took that score and placed it into our own chart. If the Omen test system was setup right, the scores should be pretty final. The Core i7-8700K sits smack-down in-between the Ryzen 5 1600 and 1600X
Single threaded then, Intel has a Turbo 3.0 mode that will allow one application that utilize one core, to clock very high, ergo the single thread performance is rock solid, see above.
| Processor | Cores / Threads | Base Clock | Turbo (6c) | Turbo (1c) | L3 | TDP | Price |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Core i7 8700K | 6/12 | 3.7 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 4.7 GHz | 12 MB | 95 W | € 389 |
| Core i7 8700 | 6/12 | 3.2 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 4.6 GHz | 12 MB | 65 W | € 327 |
| Core i5 8600K | 6/6 | 3.6 GHz | 4.1 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 9 MB | 95 W | € 273 |
| Core i5 8400 | 6/6 | 2.8 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 9 MB | 65 W | € 192 |
| Core i3 8350K | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | NA | NA | 8 MB | 91 W | € 189 |
| Core i3 8300 | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | NA | NA | 8 MB | 65 W | - |
| Core i3 8100 | 4/4 | 3.6 GHz | NA | NA | 6 MB | 65 W | € 123 |
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#5471001 Posted on: 09/11/2017 12:54 PM
389$ Intel CPU barely beats vanilla AMD R5-1600 with a 220$ price
GG Intel!
389$ Intel CPU barely beats vanilla AMD R5-1600 with a 220$ price
GG Intel!
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#5471003 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:00 PM
Something isn't rigth with that multithread score.
8700K can go to 4.3GHz (6 cores) with good cooling. Maybe that HP system isn't good at that.
Something isn't rigth with that multithread score.
8700K can go to 4.3GHz (6 cores) with good cooling. Maybe that HP system isn't good at that.
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#5471004 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:02 PM
I got my 1600X for about 290EUR.
Then again, this is still just a leak. Until we get the numbers from The Man HH, it's too early to judge.
I got my 1600X for about 290EUR.
Then again, this is still just a leak. Until we get the numbers from The Man HH, it's too early to judge.
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#5471012 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:31 PM
I rather wait for proper reviews before judging it, though all I want from the 8700K is gaming performance, don't care if its general multithreading performance is just Ryzen 5 tier.
I rather wait for proper reviews before judging it, though all I want from the 8700K is gaming performance, don't care if its general multithreading performance is just Ryzen 5 tier.
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#5471014 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:46 PM
Do note that while single-threaded performance is very high, games do use more than 1 core. The difference from Ryzen isn't going to be that big.
If this benchmark would be representative of general performance across the board, this processor's price/performance looks absolutely atrocious, even single-threaded where Intel are really pushing the frequency envelope here.
I'm waiting to see how many fanboys gouge up their products because at this point the i7-8700k doesn't seem to make any sense with that price.
Do note that while single-threaded performance is very high, games do use more than 1 core. The difference from Ryzen isn't going to be that big.
If this benchmark would be representative of general performance across the board, this processor's price/performance looks absolutely atrocious, even single-threaded where Intel are really pushing the frequency envelope here.
I'm waiting to see how many fanboys gouge up their products because at this point the i7-8700k doesn't seem to make any sense with that price.
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#5471015 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:47 PM
People with this mentality is the reason why Intel was able to do what it did for the past 6 years.
If AMD didn't made Ryzen, these 6 cores would never exist for years!
Something has to be wrong, the MT score should be closer to 1400.
If this is the real score R7 1700 is still the better buy, even after all these months...
I rather wait for proper reviews before judging it, though all I want from the 8700K is gaming performance, don't care if its general multithreading performance is just Ryzen 5 tier.
People with this mentality is the reason why Intel was able to do what it did for the past 6 years.
If AMD didn't made Ryzen, these 6 cores would never exist for years!
Something has to be wrong, the MT score should be closer to 1400.
If this is the real score R7 1700 is still the better buy, even after all these months...
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#5471016 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:49 PM
Weak as hell..
Weak as hell..
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#5471017 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:51 PM
People with this mentality is the reason why Intel was able to do what it did for the past 6 years.
If AMD didn't made Ryzen, these 6 cores would never exist for years!
Something has to be wrong, the MT score should be closer to 1400.
If this is the real score R7 1700 is still the better buy, even after all these months...
Wouldn't exist for years?
The 6 core coffee lake was scheduled for the start of next year before ryzen even came out....
People with this mentality is the reason why Intel was able to do what it did for the past 6 years.
If AMD didn't made Ryzen, these 6 cores would never exist for years!
Something has to be wrong, the MT score should be closer to 1400.
If this is the real score R7 1700 is still the better buy, even after all these months...
Wouldn't exist for years?
The 6 core coffee lake was scheduled for the start of next year before ryzen even came out....
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#5471018 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:51 PM
It's actually somehow slower than Kaby Lake (which from what I recall, was slightly slower than Skylake). A 7700K can turbo 1 core to 4.5GHz, but the 8700K turbos to 4.7Ghz, and yet it barely pulls ahead in single-threaded. But, this is also just 1 test. Too soon to draw conclusions.
It's actually somehow slower than Kaby Lake (which from what I recall, was slightly slower than Skylake). A 7700K can turbo 1 core to 4.5GHz, but the 8700K turbos to 4.7Ghz, and yet it barely pulls ahead in single-threaded. But, this is also just 1 test. Too soon to draw conclusions.
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#5471019 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:57 PM
So by single threaded it gets 196 @ 4.7ghz, ok I guess.
For comparison mine @ 4.7ghz gets ~192cb, no rush then. From what I saw this i7 4770k just started to flex its muscles, not that its obsolete
So by single threaded it gets 196 @ 4.7ghz, ok I guess.
For comparison mine @ 4.7ghz gets ~192cb, no rush then. From what I saw this i7 4770k just started to flex its muscles, not that its obsolete
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#5471023 Posted on: 09/11/2017 02:07 PM
People with this mentality is the reason why Intel was able to do what it did for the past 6 years.
If AMD didn't made Ryzen, these 6 cores would never exist for years!
How so?
I couldn't care less about fanboyism towards any brand, right now I'm still using an AMD CPU even (Phenom II X4). I buy what fits my needs the most, be it Intel or AMD, it doesn't matter which, as long as it fits my needs.
When I got my Phenom II X4, at the time it was the CPU that fit my needs the most, a cheap quad core CPU. Nowadays the i7 8700K is what is going to fit my needs the most, better single-threading performance and decent multi-threading performance.
If someone wants better multi-threading performance while still having decent single-threading performance, Ryzen is the best pick of course, but that's not what I want.
Either way, gotta wait for proper reviews/benchmarks, gotta take leaked results with a grain of salt.
People with this mentality is the reason why Intel was able to do what it did for the past 6 years.
If AMD didn't made Ryzen, these 6 cores would never exist for years!
How so?
I couldn't care less about fanboyism towards any brand, right now I'm still using an AMD CPU even (Phenom II X4). I buy what fits my needs the most, be it Intel or AMD, it doesn't matter which, as long as it fits my needs.
When I got my Phenom II X4, at the time it was the CPU that fit my needs the most, a cheap quad core CPU. Nowadays the i7 8700K is what is going to fit my needs the most, better single-threading performance and decent multi-threading performance.
If someone wants better multi-threading performance while still having decent single-threading performance, Ryzen is the best pick of course, but that's not what I want.
Either way, gotta wait for proper reviews/benchmarks, gotta take leaked results with a grain of salt.
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#5471025 Posted on: 09/11/2017 02:24 PM
Wouldn't exist for years?
The 6 core coffee lake was scheduled for the start of next year before ryzen even came out....
I think you mean was scheduled for 2020?
Jokes aside, it's not like Ryzen appeared out of nowhere. Having competed for so long with AMD, Intel could sense AMD is finally up to something and dug its more or less existing plans for a mainstream 6-core from the naphthalene, updated them to their latest iteration of the same old, and turned the mills on.
Wouldn't exist for years?
The 6 core coffee lake was scheduled for the start of next year before ryzen even came out....
I think you mean was scheduled for 2020?
Jokes aside, it's not like Ryzen appeared out of nowhere. Having competed for so long with AMD, Intel could sense AMD is finally up to something and dug its more or less existing plans for a mainstream 6-core from the naphthalene, updated them to their latest iteration of the same old, and turned the mills on.
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#5471031 Posted on: 09/11/2017 02:49 PM
Wouldn't exist for years?
The 6 core coffee lake was scheduled for the start of next year before ryzen even came out....
As if they didn't knew what was coming...AMD had announced Zen months before release, Intel never thought they could leapfrog +40% IPC over last gen.
If they were scheduled for next year, why are we seeing them next month? Rushed much?
It's actually somehow slower than Kaby Lake (which from what I recall, was slightly slower than Skylake). A 7700K can turbo 1 core to 4.5GHz, but the 8700K turbos to 4.7Ghz, and yet it barely pulls ahead in single-threaded. But, this is also just 1 test. Too soon to draw conclusions.
We have no idea what the cooling solution or temps are, the MT performance is off imo.
How so?
I couldn't care less about fanboyism towards any brand, right now I'm still using an AMD CPU even (Phenom II X4). I buy what fits my needs the most, be it Intel or AMD, it doesn't matter which, as long as it fits my needs.
When I got my Phenom II X4, at the time it was the CPU that fit my needs the most, a cheap quad core CPU. Nowadays the i7 8700K is what is going to fit my needs the most, better single-threading performance and decent multi-threading performance.
If someone wants better multi-threading performance while still having decent single-threading performance, Ryzen is the best pick of course, but that's not what I want.
Either way, gotta wait for proper reviews/benchmarks, gotta take leaked results with a grain of salt.
If all you want is single core performance, I agree.
And I agree we need to wait, this isn't final.
Wouldn't exist for years?
The 6 core coffee lake was scheduled for the start of next year before ryzen even came out....
As if they didn't knew what was coming...AMD had announced Zen months before release, Intel never thought they could leapfrog +40% IPC over last gen.
If they were scheduled for next year, why are we seeing them next month? Rushed much?
It's actually somehow slower than Kaby Lake (which from what I recall, was slightly slower than Skylake). A 7700K can turbo 1 core to 4.5GHz, but the 8700K turbos to 4.7Ghz, and yet it barely pulls ahead in single-threaded. But, this is also just 1 test. Too soon to draw conclusions.
We have no idea what the cooling solution or temps are, the MT performance is off imo.
How so?
I couldn't care less about fanboyism towards any brand, right now I'm still using an AMD CPU even (Phenom II X4). I buy what fits my needs the most, be it Intel or AMD, it doesn't matter which, as long as it fits my needs.
When I got my Phenom II X4, at the time it was the CPU that fit my needs the most, a cheap quad core CPU. Nowadays the i7 8700K is what is going to fit my needs the most, better single-threading performance and decent multi-threading performance.
If someone wants better multi-threading performance while still having decent single-threading performance, Ryzen is the best pick of course, but that's not what I want.
Either way, gotta wait for proper reviews/benchmarks, gotta take leaked results with a grain of salt.
If all you want is single core performance, I agree.
And I agree we need to wait, this isn't final.
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#5471035 Posted on: 09/11/2017 02:59 PM
Well, clearly there isn't much of an improvement between Coffee Lake and Kaby Lake (or Skylake), so Intel probably was like "eh screw it, why bother testing? We already know it's good enough". If Coffee Lake actually had something to offer other than more cores (and maybe better efficiency), Intel would probably hold off their release. But from what I recall, there will be 2 release phases for Coffee Lake - one that is mostly based around KL (this upcoming release) and another later one, that will likely be a little different.
Right, like I said, too soon to draw conclusions. But what's wrong with the MT? Aside from the fact it seems to have a 0% improvement over KL, it seems to sit right where it should, when you consider the number of threads and the frequency.
If they were scheduled for next year, why are we seeing them next month? Rushed much?
Well, clearly there isn't much of an improvement between Coffee Lake and Kaby Lake (or Skylake), so Intel probably was like "eh screw it, why bother testing? We already know it's good enough". If Coffee Lake actually had something to offer other than more cores (and maybe better efficiency), Intel would probably hold off their release. But from what I recall, there will be 2 release phases for Coffee Lake - one that is mostly based around KL (this upcoming release) and another later one, that will likely be a little different.
We have no idea what the cooling solution or temps are, the MT performance is off imo.
Right, like I said, too soon to draw conclusions. But what's wrong with the MT? Aside from the fact it seems to have a 0% improvement over KL, it seems to sit right where it should, when you consider the number of threads and the frequency.
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"Coffee Lake offers 50% more performance"
Right, however according to this leak it's not even close to that. Manages to lose to Ryzen 1600 (which is cheaper mind that) in Multi-Threaded, and Single threaded performance is due to 1 core boost.
Plus it's non-soldered. Looking forward to see how tooth paste coupes with temperatures.