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Although not announced or done deliberately, some technical documentation popped up showing that Alder Lake, the processors following Rocket Lake, is indeed based on a Socket LGA 1700 de`sign, which means 1700 pins.
It was Momomo who found and posted a screenshot that refers to a technical document, which indeed mentions 'LGA1700-ADL-S'. The document is grabbed from the Intel's site for developer tools with a toolkit for developing VR software. As you'll notice, mentioned in the name is LGA1700 and ADL-S. ADL-S could bring support for ddr5 and PCIe 5.0, albeit that is very much so, speculation. According to rumors, it will be 45 × 37.5mm in size , being a rectangle instead of the square that we are currently used to. This won't be the only big change Alder Lake-S would bring: Rumor has it that it will have a BIG.little design similar to that used in smartphone processors, with eight high-performance cores and eight high-efficiency cores.
Alder Lake-S could arrive at the end of next year, as part of the 12th generation of Intel Core processors.
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#5804247 Posted on: 06/29/2020 11:58 AM
At this point I believe that Intel will only drop the "lake" naming when they finally drop 14nm, let's hope they won't run out of lakes until then... :p
At this point I believe that Intel will only drop the "lake" naming when they finally drop 14nm, let's hope they won't run out of lakes until then... :p
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#5804252 Posted on: 06/29/2020 12:12 PM
They should get into software and write application and OS to support all those cores.
Game engines too.
Then they would be competing with Zen 4. Since 32 cores is probably close to the max for any mainstream socket, I wonder what they do next (both of them).
They should get into software and write application and OS to support all those cores.
Game engines too.
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#5804271 Posted on: 06/29/2020 01:53 PM
I'm curious on why you think 32 cores is the max for mainstream. Probably four 5nm CPU dies and a 7nm IO fit in a package, but what tells us that's the limit?
If AMD does smaller cores it could fit 6 on a CCX for 12 core dies. Then 4 dies could give us 48 cores on a mainstream CPU.
Meanwhile TSMC is developing other smaller nodes that could improve the space on the package and fit more stuff on the dies.
Then they would be competing with Zen 4. Since 32 cores is probably close to the max for any mainstream socket, I wonder what they do next (both of them).
I'm curious on why you think 32 cores is the max for mainstream. Probably four 5nm CPU dies and a 7nm IO fit in a package, but what tells us that's the limit?
If AMD does smaller cores it could fit 6 on a CCX for 12 core dies. Then 4 dies could give us 48 cores on a mainstream CPU.
Meanwhile TSMC is developing other smaller nodes that could improve the space on the package and fit more stuff on the dies.
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#5804276 Posted on: 06/29/2020 02:12 PM
I'm curious on why you think 32 cores is the max for mainstream. Probably four 5nm CPU dies and a 7nm IO fit in a package, but what tells us that's the limit?
If AMD does smaller cores it could fit 6 on a CCX for 12 core dies. Then 4 dies could give us 48 cores on a mainstream CPU.
Meanwhile TSMC is developing other smaller nodes that could improve the space on the package and fit more stuff on the dies.
There is a hard stop with physics at around 1-2nm, and even before that there are huge issues with heat density, which we see already both in TSMC 7nm, and Intel's 10nm. So unless huge fundamentals change, there is a stop.
48 cores are kind of useless for most tasks. I would argue that the best would be to start shipping with specialized hardware. It could be an I/O controller, like the new consoles have, or specific accelerators. I honestly cannot see any use for more than 32 cores on a desktop for the next five years, unless anything fundamental changes with software.
I'm curious on why you think 32 cores is the max for mainstream. Probably four 5nm CPU dies and a 7nm IO fit in a package, but what tells us that's the limit?
If AMD does smaller cores it could fit 6 on a CCX for 12 core dies. Then 4 dies could give us 48 cores on a mainstream CPU.
Meanwhile TSMC is developing other smaller nodes that could improve the space on the package and fit more stuff on the dies.
There is a hard stop with physics at around 1-2nm, and even before that there are huge issues with heat density, which we see already both in TSMC 7nm, and Intel's 10nm. So unless huge fundamentals change, there is a stop.
48 cores are kind of useless for most tasks. I would argue that the best would be to start shipping with specialized hardware. It could be an I/O controller, like the new consoles have, or specific accelerators. I honestly cannot see any use for more than 32 cores on a desktop for the next five years, unless anything fundamental changes with software.
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