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Intel Coffee lake Core i9 9900K and other product names leaked?
The speculation on the Z390 chipset and the 8-core processors kind of gets lost in space eh? We talked Z390 for quite a while now. We know it's paired with at least a Coffee lake based 8-core part. The news today is that three CPU SKUs will be released alongside the chipset. An 8-core, 16-thread CPU (Core i9 9900K); a 6c/12t one (Core i7 9700K) and a 6c/6t part (Core i5 9600K ).
This round it's the guys from wccftech that claim they have found the names of the CPUs that are to be released, the 9000 series with an i9 part. That seems to sound more 'premium', that Intel will house the new procs shared over the Core i5, Core i7 and Core i9 line. The processors all will be a series 9000 model and based on Coffee Lake architecture. Here are the lineup names they mention:
- Intel Core i9-9900K (est: 8 Core / 16 Threads)
- Intel Core i7-9700K (est: 6 Core / 12 Threads)
- Intel Core i5-9600K (est: 6 Core / 6 Threads)
Where it states est, that's short for estimated. As nobody knows for sure if the SKUs indeed are 8 and 6 core parts. So that's a best guess from their side, however, logic would indicate something like that. Albeit I don't really see a non HT part for a 9000 series line-up. The Core i9-9900K (if it's really named like that) of course would be the premium 8-core part, released to battle AMD with their 8-core Ryzen processors, in specific the ZEN+ Ryzen 2700X. Though I still have a gut feeling that AMD is hiding a 2800X for release to compete with the Core i9-9900K (but perhaps that's wishful thinking). That 9700K really ... would be the same as an 8700K? So that makes little sense. Anyway, we'll see. Oh and perhaps Intel will launch + models as well, you know with Optane caching.
The Z390 chipset then, well one again, Z390 use the LGA1151 socket using the traditional DMI 3.0 chipset-bus (which basically is an x4 PCIe link lane up/downlink. Similar to the Z370 chipset, it'll have 24 PCI-Express gen 3.0 lanes. Also similar is storage at six SATA 6 Gbps ports with AHCI and RAID support; and up to three 32 Gbps M.2/U.2 connectors. LAN remains the same as well. 1 GbE, Intel recommends their Wireless-AC 9560 card for the motherboard manufacturers to pair this chipset with for 802.11ac and Bluetooth 5. Some differences are spotted though, USB is configured at six 10 Gbps USB 3.1 gen 2 ports, ten 5 Gbps USB 3.1 gen 1 ports.
Above Intel Z390
Above (for comparison) Z370
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#5560895 Posted on: 06/27/2018 10:56 PM
I wouldn't expect differently as no news about 10nm have been posted and it's been delayed for the past +3 years.
It's for sure 14nm++.
It will be interesting when Zen2 comes at 7nm.
14nm?
I wouldn't expect differently as no news about 10nm have been posted and it's been delayed for the past +3 years.
It's for sure 14nm++.
It will be interesting when Zen2 comes at 7nm.
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#5560904 Posted on: 06/27/2018 11:30 PM
i9 for X299 or Z370/390 ?
i9 for X299 or Z370/390 ?
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#5560911 Posted on: 06/27/2018 11:55 PM
X299 I hope.
X299 I hope.
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#5560932 Posted on: 06/28/2018 02:59 AM
Cool beans Intel and Amd going at it like crazy,I love it!
Cool beans Intel and Amd going at it like crazy,I love it!
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#5560946 Posted on: 06/28/2018 05:39 AM
Last moment desperate twitching from Intel's 14nm.... More of the same here.
Last moment desperate twitching from Intel's 14nm.... More of the same here.
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#5560955 Posted on: 06/28/2018 06:12 AM
A long time ago , Core i5 9600K is found in AIDA 64 Beta release note.
So 9600K is probably real. but other SKU... I don`t know.
A long time ago , Core i5 9600K is found in AIDA 64 Beta release note.
So 9600K is probably real. but other SKU... I don`t know.
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#5561032 Posted on: 06/28/2018 11:49 AM
They are supposed to bring 8-core in the mainstream platform, so it's for Z370/390. They will call it Core i9 in order to sound more ''premium''.
X299 I hope.
They are supposed to bring 8-core in the mainstream platform, so it's for Z370/390. They will call it Core i9 in order to sound more ''premium''.
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#5561052 Posted on: 06/28/2018 12:59 PM
So do you think these new CPU's will be immune to the Spectre/Meltdown vulnerabilities or will they require patching like the current CPU's on the market?
So do you think these new CPU's will be immune to the Spectre/Meltdown vulnerabilities or will they require patching like the current CPU's on the market?
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#5561054 Posted on: 06/28/2018 01:04 PM
If they are chipset compatible with already present boards, we will know. But if there is requirement to use another currently unreleased chipset, it will come with patches and therefore there will be nothing to compare.
I think it is possible for them to be partially fixed on HW level. At least 1st wave of "vulnerabilities". Those newer ones, very unlikely.
So do you think these new CPU's will be immune to the Spectre/Meltdown vulnerabilities or will they require patching like the current CPU's on the market?
If they are chipset compatible with already present boards, we will know. But if there is requirement to use another currently unreleased chipset, it will come with patches and therefore there will be nothing to compare.
I think it is possible for them to be partially fixed on HW level. At least 1st wave of "vulnerabilities". Those newer ones, very unlikely.
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#5561081 Posted on: 06/28/2018 02:42 PM
This makes perfect sense, but I'm pretty confident this is wishful thinking. The stock 2700X is overall better than the 1800X, and there isn't really a whole lot more headroom to further improve it. The only possibility I can think of is if AMD releases the same architecture but as a 7nm part.
It's tough to say - if Intel hasn't yet found a way to keep speculative/predictive execution without vulnerabilities, these new CPUs will see a noticeable performance loss clock-per-clock. What that means is in order for these CPUs to be appealing, Intel will have to increase the clock speeds, which are already getting pretty high, especially considering the core count.
It does kind of get you to wonder though - AMD's IPC may overall be worse, but, their CPUs are also less vulnerable. I wonder how close in performance these brands are once their security level is balanced.
Though I still have a gut feeling that AMD is hiding a 2800X for release to compete with the Core i9-9900K (but perhaps that's wishful thinking)
This makes perfect sense, but I'm pretty confident this is wishful thinking. The stock 2700X is overall better than the 1800X, and there isn't really a whole lot more headroom to further improve it. The only possibility I can think of is if AMD releases the same architecture but as a 7nm part.
So do you think these new CPU's will be immune to the Spectre/Meltdown vulnerabilities or will they require patching like the current CPU's on the market?
It's tough to say - if Intel hasn't yet found a way to keep speculative/predictive execution without vulnerabilities, these new CPUs will see a noticeable performance loss clock-per-clock. What that means is in order for these CPUs to be appealing, Intel will have to increase the clock speeds, which are already getting pretty high, especially considering the core count.
It does kind of get you to wonder though - AMD's IPC may overall be worse, but, their CPUs are also less vulnerable. I wonder how close in performance these brands are once their security level is balanced.
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#5561093 Posted on: 06/28/2018 03:59 PM
Lame to call them 9xxx if they're still just coffee lake and not even a process shrink. 8core should just be called i7 8800K and the rest shouldn't get a new name imo
Lame to call them 9xxx if they're still just coffee lake and not even a process shrink. 8core should just be called i7 8800K and the rest shouldn't get a new name imo
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#5561099 Posted on: 06/28/2018 04:24 PM
Why stop there?
Coffee Lake is just Kaby Lake but with the performance tiers re-positioned, and artificially crippled chipsets.
Kaby Lake is just Skylake but with higher clocks.
Skylake is just Haswell but with a die shrink and DDR4 support.
Lame to call them 9xxx if they're still just coffee lake and not even a process shrink. 8core should just be called i7 8800K and the rest shouldn't get a new name imo
Why stop there?
Coffee Lake is just Kaby Lake but with the performance tiers re-positioned, and artificially crippled chipsets.
Kaby Lake is just Skylake but with higher clocks.
Skylake is just Haswell but with a die shrink and DDR4 support.
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#5561101 Posted on: 06/28/2018 04:27 PM
So is i9 9900 if we flip it forms a 666 , guys grab my tin foil hat!
So is i9 9900 if we flip it forms a 666 , guys grab my tin foil hat!
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#5561102 Posted on: 06/28/2018 04:29 PM
Too much happy with my Ryzen 2700x ...I am curios if those new intel chips will have any integrated graphics inside...the blu bad company has plagued the desktop segment with those useless integrated graphics only to make any extra penny out of it...If now the new i9 cpus will be igfx less I would then ask those intel guys why of such a move...did not they ever tell us that those igfx's were essential?
Too much happy with my Ryzen 2700x ...I am curios if those new intel chips will have any integrated graphics inside...the blu bad company has plagued the desktop segment with those useless integrated graphics only to make any extra penny out of it...If now the new i9 cpus will be igfx less I would then ask those intel guys why of such a move...did not they ever tell us that those igfx's were essential?
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14nm?