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Intel Arc A380 is plagued with software flaws, poor framerates and often unplayable
The first media evaluations of Intel's Arc A380 reveal that it is a trainwreck. Intel never seeded any sample, but just made the product available in China, some websites have gotten their hands on a product. And they're not happy.
We'll go by the way of Germany based ComputerBase, The GPU is clashing with AMD's RX 6400 and NVIDIA's GTX 1650. The driver is also a "construction site," the critic notes. The graphical difficulties necessitate several restarts.
Gaming with Intel’s Arc A380, even with the latest driver, is like living in the middle of a minefield – mind you, playing while drunk. There is no other way to describe the past working days with the Arc A380. You don’t even know where to start. In its current state, it is completely incomprehensible how a large and reputable company like Intel can sell such a product to even a single customer.
In addition, the Arc A380 likes to struggle with stuttering in games that, for example, make Fortnite unplayable despite sufficient FPS. There are a few other titles that suffer from the problem, The Witcher 3, for example, does not run smoothly either. However, frame pacing is generally still a decent job in everyday life with the Intel Arc A380, many games show minor to major problems.
— Wolfgang Andermahr, ComputerBase
As it seems the product is a mess ... is rBAR dependent; on top of that, Arc 380 drivers do not support ReBar on AMD's Ryzen CPUs; the functionality only works with this technology on Intel's own processors. Then it offers bad frametime stutters combined with low-performance and high energy consumption. Outside of China, Intel Arc A380 graphics cards are not currently available for purchase. Arc Alchemist architecture will not be accessible for DIY clients in other locations, according to the business. Below are a couple of screenshots with results courtesy of computer base, as well as a frame time plot from Golem where you can read up on the content.
| Geforce GTX 1650 | Arc A380 | RX 6400 | |
|---|---|---|---|
| chip | TU117 (partially activated) | ACM-G11 (full expansion) | Navi 24 (partially activated) |
| production | TSMC 12FF (DUV) | TSMC N6 (EUV) | TSMC N6 (EUV) |
| transistors/area | 4.7 billion @ 200 mm² | 7.2 billion @ 157 mm² | 5.4 billion @ 107 mm² |
| shaders | 896 (14 SMS) | 1,024 (8 XeCs) | 768 (12 CUs) |
| TMU's | 56 | 64 | 48 |
| Ray Units | no | 8th | 12 |
| GPU clock | 1485/1665MHz | 2,000MHz | 2039/2321MHz |
| video memory | 4 GB GDDR5 | 6 GB GDDR6 | 4 GB GDDR6 |
| interface | 128 bits @ 8 Gbps | 96 bits @ 15.5 Gbps | 64 bits @ 16 Gbps |
| bandwidth | 128 GB/s | 186 GB/s | 128 GB/s + 0.46 TB/s |
| ROPs | 32 | 16 | 32 |
| L2 cache | 1 MB | 4 MB | 1 MB |
| board power | 75 watts | 75-87 watts | 53 watts |
| PCIe | Gen3 x16 | Gen4 x8 | Gen4 x4 |
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#6035552 Posted on: 07/20/2022 10:31 PM
Are you talking about the drivers that look like we're using windows me, for nvidia I mean? AMD interface is ages better than Nvidia, I would only buy Nvidia again if presented with an undeniable good performance/price card. Not happening.
Intel drivers are in an early stage alot of work to be done. For amd it took 10years fixing the drivers to be on nvidia level.
Are you talking about the drivers that look like we're using windows me, for nvidia I mean? AMD interface is ages better than Nvidia, I would only buy Nvidia again if presented with an undeniable good performance/price card. Not happening.
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#6035556 Posted on: 07/20/2022 10:38 PM
Even though drivers and nvcp look like something from 20 years ago they are stable and work really well.
Are you talking about the drivers that look like we're using windows me, for nvidia I mean? AMD interface is ages better than Nvidia, I would only buy Nvidia again if presented with an undeniable good performance/price card. Not happening.
Even though drivers and nvcp look like something from 20 years ago they are stable and work really well.
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#6035558 Posted on: 07/20/2022 10:57 PM
Despite the vast resources of Intel, this is something that can only happen by a huge segmented company. I simply cannot blame Koduri and others behind this project, since Intel's focus is clearly elsewhere. In time they will fix the drivers, likely before Battlemage is out, so let's keep thumbs up for their success on that. I'd assume though that the cheapest models can serve very well as basic display output devices, since Intel's graphic driver is okay for basic use.
I'm kind of saddened by all this, since the enthusiasm by the engineers is evident (check this video by Gamers Nexus, there is also another one on the channel), but it was to be expected in the light of all the rumours and Intel's communication.
PS. At the very least some decent FPS numbers via.
Despite the vast resources of Intel, this is something that can only happen by a huge segmented company. I simply cannot blame Koduri and others behind this project, since Intel's focus is clearly elsewhere. In time they will fix the drivers, likely before Battlemage is out, so let's keep thumbs up for their success on that. I'd assume though that the cheapest models can serve very well as basic display output devices, since Intel's graphic driver is okay for basic use.
I'm kind of saddened by all this, since the enthusiasm by the engineers is evident (check this video by Gamers Nexus, there is also another one on the channel), but it was to be expected in the light of all the rumours and Intel's communication.
PS. At the very least some decent FPS numbers via
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#6035563 Posted on: 07/20/2022 11:04 PM
so norma intel driver were never good to begin with
so norma intel driver were never good to begin with
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Intel has to ship product w/ immature software
it sounds like the staffing on the software side was cut-down in a "cost savings measure" idk 4 sure but it does have a whiff of stank