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Intel announces 58GB and 118GB Optane 800P SSD
Today, Intel announced the Intel Optane SSD 800P, the latest in the Optane technology family of products. The 800P is available in 58GB and 118GB capacities in the M.2 2280 form factor using an NVMe PCIe 3.0 x2 interface.
The Optane 800p series M.2 NVMe is once again a, intended to be a cache SSD and replaces the 16 GB and 32 GB models, you could however use that 118GB version as standalone SSD as it is big enough (well barely). Intel, of course, encourages you to purchase two or more of these drives, to be set up in NVMe RAID. The storage units are using M.2 2280 form factor using an NVMe PCIe 3.0 x2 interface
Performance wise both offer up to 1450 MB/s sequential reads and up to 640 MB/s sequential writes. With up to 250,000 IOPS random reads, and up to 145,000 IOPS random writes. Endurance is a strong point as both models are rated at 365 TBW. The Optane 800p 58 GB will cost you USD $129.99, the 118 GB model sells ate $199.99.
Mind you that these units as cache drive are not compatible with Ryzen based systems.
| Optane SSD 800p | Optane Memory | |||
| Capacity | 118GB | 58GB | 32GB | 16GB |
| Form factor | M2 2280 B + M key | M2 2280 B + M key | ||
| Interface | Pci-e 3.0 x2 | Pci-e 3.0 x2 | ||
| Protocol | Nvme 1.1 | Nvme 1.1 | ||
| Memory | 128Gb 20nm Intel 3D XPoint | 128Gb 20nm Intel 3D XPoint | ||
| Sequential reading | 1450 MB / s | 1350 MB / s | 900 MB / s | |
| Sequential writing | 640 MB / s | 290 MB / s | 145 MB / s | |
| Random reading | 250k iops | 240k iops | 190k iops | |
| Write randomly | 140k iops | 65k iops | 35k iops | |
| Consumption | 3.75 W | 3.5 W | 3.5 W | |
| Consumption idle | 8 mW | 8 mW | 1 W | 1 W |
| Endurance | 365 TB | 365 TB | 182.5 TB | 182.5 TB |
| Guarantee | 5 years | 5 years | ||
| Introduction | March 2018 | April 2017 | ||
| Recommended retail price in $ | $ 199 | $ 129 | $ 77 | $ 44 |
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#5526852 Posted on: 03/09/2018 05:30 PM
Useless product with such low capacities and absurd pricing
Useless product with such low capacities and absurd pricing
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#5526861 Posted on: 03/09/2018 05:48 PM
No offence to Intel but...no ones cares unless price is right which is not.
No offence to Intel but...no ones cares unless price is right which is not.
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#5526972 Posted on: 03/10/2018 12:02 AM
Fully agreed. My 960 Evo 250GB was only $115 brand new. Why would anyone purchase these at these kind of prices for the storage size.
Its not like these would make my evo like a sata II SSD from 2010.
Useless product with such low capacities and absurd pricing
Fully agreed. My 960 Evo 250GB was only $115 brand new. Why would anyone purchase these at these kind of prices for the storage size.
Its not like these would make my evo like a sata II SSD from 2010.
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#5526980 Posted on: 03/10/2018 12:34 AM
Diminishing returns is all that comes to mind.
Diminishing returns is all that comes to mind.
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#5526985 Posted on: 03/10/2018 12:51 AM
A big blunder by Intel was not doing anything at all to explain why 4KQ1T1 speed matters so much. Mixed reads and writes with high queue and thread count and sequential reads matter very little in a desktop environment.
Disk bench software lists super impressive numbers for certain drives indicating that they are fantastic at multiple user database workloads and moving very large files from point A to point B over a fast connection, both of which you don't do on a desktop PC.
The other blunder was releasing Optane years after it mattered. If you have a motherboard that supports Optane then you did not install windows on a HDD. Conversely if you have a HDD that would be perfect for Optane you likely do not have support for it.
On top of all that the only enthusiast case where Optane makes sense is hidden as an undocumented feature. I used a 280GB 900P as Optane cache for a 4TB SATA SSD and the performance is staggering, far better than any of these M.2 cache drives.
According to Intel this configuration does not even work even though it is the only current way to get 4TB of storage combined with top of the line 4KQ1T1 performance.
A big blunder by Intel was not doing anything at all to explain why 4KQ1T1 speed matters so much. Mixed reads and writes with high queue and thread count and sequential reads matter very little in a desktop environment.
Disk bench software lists super impressive numbers for certain drives indicating that they are fantastic at multiple user database workloads and moving very large files from point A to point B over a fast connection, both of which you don't do on a desktop PC.
The other blunder was releasing Optane years after it mattered. If you have a motherboard that supports Optane then you did not install windows on a HDD. Conversely if you have a HDD that would be perfect for Optane you likely do not have support for it.
On top of all that the only enthusiast case where Optane makes sense is hidden as an undocumented feature. I used a 280GB 900P as Optane cache for a 4TB SATA SSD and the performance is staggering, far better than any of these M.2 cache drives.
According to Intel this configuration does not even work even though it is the only current way to get 4TB of storage combined with top of the line 4KQ1T1 performance.
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#5527200 Posted on: 03/11/2018 01:14 AM
They can keep it then, theres no sense in that...
Mind you Optane is not compatible with Ryzen systems.
They can keep it then, theres no sense in that...
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#5527220 Posted on: 03/11/2018 02:37 AM
These are VERY fast, faster then any NVMe drives and are big enough to install Windows 10, the 4K speed is tad faster then 900p based on this review
Check out this 4K performance, 960 pro 1tb does maximum 50-60mb/s
These are VERY fast, faster then any NVMe drives and are big enough to install Windows 10, the 4K speed is tad faster then 900p based on this review
Check out this 4K performance, 960 pro 1tb does maximum 50-60mb/s
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#5527224 Posted on: 03/11/2018 02:57 AM
These are VERY fast, faster then any NVMe drives and are big enough to install Windows 10, the 4K speed is tad faster then 900p based on this review
Check out this 4K performance, 960 pro 1tb does maximum 50-60mb/s
That is a really old version of CrystalDiskMark, no idea why they don't upgrade.
The newer ones let you control queue depth and threads, 4KQ1T1 is really the only test that matters.
These are VERY fast, faster then any NVMe drives and are big enough to install Windows 10, the 4K speed is tad faster then 900p based on this review
Check out this 4K performance, 960 pro 1tb does maximum 50-60mb/s
That is a really old version of CrystalDiskMark, no idea why they don't upgrade.
The newer ones let you control queue depth and threads, 4KQ1T1 is really the only test that matters.
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#5527225 Posted on: 03/11/2018 03:05 AM
That is a really old version of CrystalDiskMark, no idea why they don't upgrade.
The newer ones let you control queue depth and threads, 4KQ1T1 is really the only test that matters.
Like this?
That is a really old version of CrystalDiskMark, no idea why they don't upgrade.
The newer ones let you control queue depth and threads, 4KQ1T1 is really the only test that matters.
Like this?
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#5527227 Posted on: 03/11/2018 03:21 AM
Speeds dont matter with crappy sizes and crappy prices.
And no ryzen support, intel can swallow a massive F*** You.
Speeds dont matter with crappy sizes and crappy prices.
And no ryzen support, intel can swallow a massive F*** You.
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#5527229 Posted on: 03/11/2018 03:31 AM
Speeds dont matter with crappy sizes and crappy prices.
And no ryzen support, intel can swallow a massive F*** You.
Thats BS, It works fine on ryzen.
It doesnt work in Optane Cache mode on Ryzen and Gen6 and lower Intel, but it works fine as SSD 60 and 120Gb are enough for windows 10 install. for most people that keep game on separate SSD/HDD
Speeds dont matter with crappy sizes and crappy prices.
And no ryzen support, intel can swallow a massive F*** You.
Thats BS, It works fine on ryzen.
It doesnt work in Optane Cache mode on Ryzen and Gen6 and lower Intel, but it works fine as SSD 60 and 120Gb are enough for windows 10 install. for most people that keep game on separate SSD/HDD
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#5527232 Posted on: 03/11/2018 03:37 AM
Like this?
Exactly, that bottom score is what you "feel". The rest are super specific to scenarios like moving massive files from A to B over a fast link or a database being accessed by a lot of users. 4KQ1T1 represents the random reading and writing of small files that make up the majority of desktop disk access.
Like this?
Exactly, that bottom score is what you "feel". The rest are super specific to scenarios like moving massive files from A to B over a fast link or a database being accessed by a lot of users. 4KQ1T1 represents the random reading and writing of small files that make up the majority of desktop disk access.
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#5527233 Posted on: 03/11/2018 03:46 AM
Speeds dont matter with crappy sizes and crappy prices.
And no ryzen support, intel can swallow a massive F*** You.
I am an Optane user and fan but I do agree that the capacity and price point suck. I love my 900P but it sucks that it only comes in a U.2 or add in card interface and has a capacity and price from 2015.
I'm not even using my 900P the way Intel wants me to use it because as intended it is just not worth it.
Speeds dont matter with crappy sizes and crappy prices.
And no ryzen support, intel can swallow a massive F*** You.
I am an Optane user and fan but I do agree that the capacity and price point suck. I love my 900P but it sucks that it only comes in a U.2 or add in card interface and has a capacity and price from 2015.
I'm not even using my 900P the way Intel wants me to use it because as intended it is just not worth it.
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#5527243 Posted on: 03/11/2018 04:40 AM
I am an Optane user and fan but I do agree that the capacity and price point suck. I love my 900P but it sucks that it only comes in a U.2 or add in card interface and has a capacity and price from 2015.
I'm not even using my 900P the way Intel wants me to use it because as intended it is just not worth it.
I got 480gb version and sold the game code to get 140$ back.
Just got a new case and in this build ill have 200Gb for windows and 280GB for PrimoCache to cache all my HDD's and NVMes (except system drive which already optane)
Maybe ill get that 120Gb optane and use it as system and dedicate all 480Gb as to L2 cache for PrimoCache
I am an Optane user and fan but I do agree that the capacity and price point suck. I love my 900P but it sucks that it only comes in a U.2 or add in card interface and has a capacity and price from 2015.
I'm not even using my 900P the way Intel wants me to use it because as intended it is just not worth it.
I got 480gb version and sold the game code to get 140$ back.
Just got a new case and in this build ill have 200Gb for windows and 280GB for PrimoCache to cache all my HDD's and NVMes (except system drive which already optane)
Maybe ill get that 120Gb optane and use it as system and dedicate all 480Gb as to L2 cache for PrimoCache
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I wonder if they will announce that the 900P is already Optane compatible. As of now they still have not updated their list of supported drives:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27401/Intel-Optane-Memory-User-Interface-and-Driver-for-System-Acceleration?product=99745