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Intel 8-core LGA1151 Processor For Z390 Could Be 14 nm Coffee Lake After All
Earlier last week we talked a little about the fact that Intel will be releasing another chipset called Z390 late this year. That is next to Coffee lake 6-core processors on the Z370 platform. Some new information appeared online, and the assumption that Z390 would be for 8-core 10nm Ice Lake products seems invalid.
To step that up, it seems to be the case that intel has an 8-core 14nm Coffee Lake processor in the works. The new information surfaced from an XTU errata log is showing change-log entry that reads out as "[CFL] Added support for 8,2 core,", see below. CFL obviously is short for Coffee Lake.
It would be an interesting move from Intel, as typically they design one desktop processor and base all models off from that one proc. To create an additional processor holding 8-cores is very unusual. If correct, this would be a 8-core/16-threaded part in the mainstream segment, and that would mean serious competition for AMD Ryzen 7.
Via: BenchLife.info, ComputerBase.de
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#5473663 Posted on: 09/20/2017 03:38 PM
I think Intel are bricking it. I don't doubt they could quite easily make the new 6-core CPUs work perfectly well with Z170 and Z270, but they're just after cash, much like Samsung and Apple with the latest Galaxy and iPhone being $1000...
AMD have already promised AM4 will support Zen for at least another generation (or 2) and with the Raven Ridge APUs making an appearance soon, we've got a lot to look forward to.
I think Intel are bricking it. I don't doubt they could quite easily make the new 6-core CPUs work perfectly well with Z170 and Z270, but they're just after cash, much like Samsung and Apple with the latest Galaxy and iPhone being $1000...
AMD have already promised AM4 will support Zen for at least another generation (or 2) and with the Raven Ridge APUs making an appearance soon, we've got a lot to look forward to.
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#5473699 Posted on: 09/20/2017 05:20 PM
This is my opinion !
Intel has run into the same road block as nvidia in terms of delivering next generation AKA innovative consumer driven products at costs that can compete with AMD. If one doesn't own AMD stock right now, big mistake. The separation between generations is growing and Intel / Nvidia have been scratching their own backs for so long, they literally could be out paced by the little engine "that could", AMD. On top of that, AMD's licensing capability with all of the advancements they made in the past 3 years, epic.
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How is Nvidia at a road block like Intel? They literally double perf/w every generation and bring a slew of add-value features to consumer parts and innovative deep learning to pro markets. Volta seems like it's no exception. Every single day there I read another article about how innovative they are and the opposite of Intel and you're saying they are the same.. what?
This is my opinion !
Intel has run into the same road block as nvidia in terms of delivering next generation AKA innovative consumer driven products at costs that can compete with AMD. If one doesn't own AMD stock right now, big mistake. The separation between generations is growing and Intel / Nvidia have been scratching their own backs for so long, they literally could be out paced by the little engine "that could", AMD. On top of that, AMD's licensing capability with all of the advancements they made in the past 3 years, epic.
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How is Nvidia at a road block like Intel? They literally double perf/w every generation and bring a slew of add-value features to consumer parts and innovative deep learning to pro markets. Volta seems like it's no exception. Every single day there I read another article about how innovative they are and the opposite of Intel and you're saying they are the same.. what?
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#5473706 Posted on: 09/20/2017 05:38 PM
Archaic means? As opposed to what? What did RX Vega bring that's so new and revolutionary? Clock for clock the performance is essentially identical to Fury X. HBM2/HBCC and all the other stuff they tacked on for the prosumer/deep learning market doesn't really do anything for consumers. Like if that's the innovation you're talking about, it seems pretty dumb from a margins/marketing perspective which is adverse to stock value. Not to mention that most of stuff Nvidia already did first - HBM2 was on an Nvidia card first. Nvidia would have also had 3D Memory first with HMC but Intel/Micron effectively abandoned the project. Nvidia's been able to address unified memory since Maxwell and NVLink is a node based bus that's akin to Infinity Fabric but came nearly two years earlier. All the work AMD's doing on the front end to improve geometry performance Nvidia's had in it's architecture since Kepler, Tiled Raster since Maxwell.
There is no Nvidia API - you're talking about Gameworks, which are libraries, most of which are open source now, no more excuses for AMD's driver team - which were garbage excuses to begin with. There are plenty of Vulcan/DX12 benchmarks out - Nvidia doesn't really perform any worse in them and the only reason why AMD performs better than AMD's performance in DX11 is because of how bad their drivers/architecture are at parallelizing tasks single threaded tasks at dispatch. Something Nvidia worked around with innovation - the thing you say they don't have. They don't gain much on DX12/Vulcan because their pipeline is already filled.
Sorry, I hate Intel as much as you, I like AMD, I like what they are doing with stuff like Mantle/Vulkan, their processors - even some of the tech in their GPUs, I agree with your stock point, I own $20K worth of AMD stock - but saying Nvidia is the same as Intel in terms of innovation is ridiculous. Intel hasn't done anything of note in years, Nvidia does it regularly.
Doubling performance through archaic means on the consumer level , my opinion. One of the core reason they get the performance is because of Nvidia's API for game developers. What happens when everything running on vulcan or true dx12 ?
Archaic means? As opposed to what? What did RX Vega bring that's so new and revolutionary? Clock for clock the performance is essentially identical to Fury X. HBM2/HBCC and all the other stuff they tacked on for the prosumer/deep learning market doesn't really do anything for consumers. Like if that's the innovation you're talking about, it seems pretty dumb from a margins/marketing perspective which is adverse to stock value. Not to mention that most of stuff Nvidia already did first - HBM2 was on an Nvidia card first. Nvidia would have also had 3D Memory first with HMC but Intel/Micron effectively abandoned the project. Nvidia's been able to address unified memory since Maxwell and NVLink is a node based bus that's akin to Infinity Fabric but came nearly two years earlier. All the work AMD's doing on the front end to improve geometry performance Nvidia's had in it's architecture since Kepler, Tiled Raster since Maxwell.
There is no Nvidia API - you're talking about Gameworks, which are libraries, most of which are open source now, no more excuses for AMD's driver team - which were garbage excuses to begin with. There are plenty of Vulcan/DX12 benchmarks out - Nvidia doesn't really perform any worse in them and the only reason why AMD performs better than AMD's performance in DX11 is because of how bad their drivers/architecture are at parallelizing tasks single threaded tasks at dispatch. Something Nvidia worked around with innovation - the thing you say they don't have. They don't gain much on DX12/Vulcan because their pipeline is already filled.
Sorry, I hate Intel as much as you, I like AMD, I like what they are doing with stuff like Mantle/Vulkan, their processors - even some of the tech in their GPUs, I agree with your stock point, I own $20K worth of AMD stock - but saying Nvidia is the same as Intel in terms of innovation is ridiculous. Intel hasn't done anything of note in years, Nvidia does it regularly.
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#5473714 Posted on: 09/20/2017 06:00 PM
Can nvidia do A-sync ? We aren't even through the first generation of Vulcan or Dx12 games / benchmarks so to conclude anything about "single threads" or multi-threads is premature.
New technology that doesn't cater to a certain vendor , some how become irrelevant....
A-sync is not DX12. It's a catchphrase used in AMD marketing. Pascal beats all AMD GPU's in a-synchronized workloads.
Can nvidia do A-sync ? We aren't even through the first generation of Vulcan or Dx12 games / benchmarks so to conclude anything about "single threads" or multi-threads is premature.
New technology that doesn't cater to a certain vendor , some how become irrelevant....
A-sync is not DX12. It's a catchphrase used in AMD marketing. Pascal beats all AMD GPU's in a-synchronized workloads.
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I'm beginning to wonder if its even remotely possible to have a thread about intel without all you clowns showing up and reciting the same sh*t talk over and over. You think you're doing AMD a favor in some bizarre way but all you're doing is making AMD supporters look bad.