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Intel 6-core Coffee Lake Surfaces in GeekBench (again)
An Intel upcoming 6-core Coffee Lake generation processor has surfaces in GeekBench (again). This CPU scored 4,619 points on a single thread and 20,828 on multi-threading. A comparable slightly clocked Ryzen 5 1600X (also 6-cores) scores 4,574 in single-core performance and 20,769 for the multi-core.
The coffee lake 14nm proc is a 6-core processor with 12 threads clocked at 3.19GHz. It has 1.5MB of L2 cache and 12MB of L3 cache. The proc should be running at a base-clock of 3.2 GHz however there is no metric of the Turbo clock-speed. It however is expect it to be 4.2GHz. Coffee Lake would be released together with the Z370 / H370 chipsets and logic assumes a release later this year in the Q3 region. Intel 300 series desktop processor motherboard would be based on the current LGA 1151 socket.
Coffee Lake is based on a 14nm fabrication node and would see a release in August or September with desktop version in a 4-core and 6-core model. It is rumored to be 15% faster compared to Kaby Lake. These would be tied towards the H370 and Z370 chipsets, and you guess it .. it will have a new socket. Obviously Intel will release K models (unlocked) in the Coffee Lake generation. In Q1 2018 Coffee Lake-S would see the light of day, these are dual-core parts.
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#5446968 Posted on: 06/27/2017 04:31 PM
I'm more interested in Cannon Lake than Coffee Lake (seriously, who thinks up these names, e.g. "Threadripper anyone?").
Cannon Lake will be the first implementation of a 10nm process. Looks like they milked 14nm for all it was worth.
I'm more interested in Cannon Lake than Coffee Lake (seriously, who thinks up these names, e.g. "Threadripper anyone?").
Cannon Lake will be the first implementation of a 10nm process. Looks like they milked 14nm for all it was worth.
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#5446975 Posted on: 06/27/2017 04:47 PM
is that 12mb of L3 cache i see? is intel finally moving on from their 6mb limit!
Small upgrade in IPC again by looks of things, though maybe we will finally get a 6 core mainstream :s wonder if they will still use cheap TIM instead of soldering just to save a few extra cents
is that 12mb of L3 cache i see? is intel finally moving on from their 6mb limit!
Small upgrade in IPC again by looks of things, though maybe we will finally get a 6 core mainstream :s wonder if they will still use cheap TIM instead of soldering just to save a few extra cents
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#5446977 Posted on: 06/27/2017 04:49 PM
3.19ghz is nothing to write home about. Think i'll stick with my 6850K and skip this new generation
3.19ghz is nothing to write home about. Think i'll stick with my 6850K and skip this new generation
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#5446978 Posted on: 06/27/2017 04:50 PM
Another 14nm refresh.
I'm not losing my time with Intel until they release something at 10nm.
Another 14nm refresh.
I'm not losing my time with Intel until they release something at 10nm.
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#5446979 Posted on: 06/27/2017 04:54 PM
is that 12mb of L3 cache i see? is intel finally moving on from their 6mb limit!
Small upgrade in IPC again by looks of things, though maybe we will finally get a 6 core mainstream :s wonder if they will still use cheap TIM instead of soldering just to save a few extra cents
Quad-core mainstream i7 usually have 8MB of L3 though, so, what 6MB limit?
I wonder what the final clocks for the 6-core Coffee Lake will be though.
is that 12mb of L3 cache i see? is intel finally moving on from their 6mb limit!
Small upgrade in IPC again by looks of things, though maybe we will finally get a 6 core mainstream :s wonder if they will still use cheap TIM instead of soldering just to save a few extra cents
Quad-core mainstream i7 usually have 8MB of L3 though, so, what 6MB limit?
I wonder what the final clocks for the 6-core Coffee Lake will be though.
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#5446980 Posted on: 06/27/2017 04:56 PM
Isn't that Coffee a 6-core? Maybe optimizations are yet to be implemented?
Yeah below scores are OC vs stock Coffee Lake of course but even then. Seems on the low side.
6700K@4.5GHz and 4.7GHz with ram running 3733MHz CL16.
4700MHz
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3251455
4500MHz
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3251379
Isn't that Coffee a 6-core? Maybe optimizations are yet to be implemented?
Yeah below scores are OC vs stock Coffee Lake of course but even then. Seems on the low side.
6700K@4.5GHz and 4.7GHz with ram running 3733MHz CL16.
4700MHz
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3251455
4500MHz
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3251379
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#5446982 Posted on: 06/27/2017 04:57 PM
I imagine the series after this will get the updated cache hierarchy that Skylake-X has. Their current solution doesn't scale well for 4+ core products - obviously they can make it work its just not ideal.
I imagine the series after this will get the updated cache hierarchy that Skylake-X has. Their current solution doesn't scale well for 4+ core products - obviously they can make it work its just not ideal.
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#5446983 Posted on: 06/27/2017 04:59 PM
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#5446984 Posted on: 06/27/2017 05:00 PM
I'm more interested in Cannon Lake than Coffee Lake (seriously, who thinks up these names, e.g. "Threadripper anyone?").
Cannon Lake will be the first implementation of a 10nm process. Looks like they milked 14nm for all it was worth.
Cannon Lake was cancelled for a desktop about 1 year ago due to worse transistor performace of the first 10nm process compared to the 14nm++. There will be only ultra low power mobile parts...
12MB L3 is there only because of 6 cores. Intel is using 2MB per core. Current 7700K with 4 cores has 8MB.
Regarding IPC there will be no IPC gains. Coffee Lake is the same as Kaby Lake. The only difference is in the core count.
Socket is LGA1151 but not compatible with current Z170/Z270 motherboards.
I'm more interested in Cannon Lake than Coffee Lake (seriously, who thinks up these names, e.g. "Threadripper anyone?").
Cannon Lake will be the first implementation of a 10nm process. Looks like they milked 14nm for all it was worth.
Cannon Lake was cancelled for a desktop about 1 year ago due to worse transistor performace of the first 10nm process compared to the 14nm++. There will be only ultra low power mobile parts...
12MB L3 is there only because of 6 cores. Intel is using 2MB per core. Current 7700K with 4 cores has 8MB.
Regarding IPC there will be no IPC gains. Coffee Lake is the same as Kaby Lake. The only difference is in the core count.
Socket is LGA1151 but not compatible with current Z170/Z270 motherboards.
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#5446990 Posted on: 06/27/2017 05:10 PM
Ice Lake will be the first desktop 10 nm CPU from Intel, expected around the same time as the Zen+ successor on the AM4+ socket and new process (rumour suggests 7 nm). They aren't milking the 14 nm process by choice, 10 nm isn't working for then yet except for the low powered versions. They do feel they need to bring out new stuff though, hence the new CPU's. Kaby Lake is pure milking though.
Ice Lake will be the first desktop 10 nm CPU from Intel, expected around the same time as the Zen+ successor on the AM4+ socket and new process (rumour suggests 7 nm). They aren't milking the 14 nm process by choice, 10 nm isn't working for then yet except for the low powered versions. They do feel they need to bring out new stuff though, hence the new CPU's. Kaby Lake is pure milking though.
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#5447004 Posted on: 06/27/2017 06:20 PM
if it needs a new socket might as well keep my 7700k
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3125144
if it needs a new socket might as well keep my 7700k
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3125144
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#5447006 Posted on: 06/27/2017 06:32 PM
if it needs a new socket might as well keep my 7700k
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3125144
Socket is LGA1151 v2, so you do need new mobo
if it needs a new socket might as well keep my 7700k
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3125144
Socket is LGA1151 v2, so you do need new mobo
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#5447010 Posted on: 06/27/2017 06:43 PM
Quad-core mainstream i7 usually have 8MB of L3 though, so, what 6MB limit?
I wonder what the final clocks for the 6-core Coffee Lake will be though.
ah my bad, must be thinking of the i5's 6mb limit
Quad-core mainstream i7 usually have 8MB of L3 though, so, what 6MB limit?
I wonder what the final clocks for the 6-core Coffee Lake will be though.
ah my bad, must be thinking of the i5's 6mb limit
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#5447014 Posted on: 06/27/2017 06:51 PM
hmm wonder with z170 boards will be update bios wise to support that 6c/12t 1151 would be nice, I could give my cpu to my uncle save he trouble of getting 6700k and buy my self this, well this all providing price isnt stupid
i dont see 1151 "v2" mentioned anywhere there
Seeing under package is say "1151"
hmm wonder with z170 boards will be update bios wise to support that 6c/12t 1151 would be nice, I could give my cpu to my uncle save he trouble of getting 6700k and buy my self this, well this all providing price isnt stupid
Socket is LGA1151 v2, so you do need new mobo
i dont see 1151 "v2" mentioned anywhere there
Seeing under package is say "1151"
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You have in this one news peice a claim that it is based on LGA1151 (current 100 and 200 chipset socket) then later claim that CL will require a new socket?