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Intel 6-core Coffee Lake Processors Launch October 5th
Earlier on we already mentioned that the Coffee lake Z370 motherboards shelf-date is to be expect on October 5th. However now it is confirmed through a UK etailer that the processors would launch that date as well.
It's VERY likely that October 5th is the availability date as a stock supply screenshot from an etail surfaced on the web, pcgameshardware spotted it from a user on reddit. Coffee Lake (8th gen) six-core processors are based on the LGA1151 socket, but will require a new motherboard chipset. They have a TDP of either 65 or 95W. There will be be two 6 cores models with HT (12MB L3), an two without HT (9MB L3). The four core models (8MB L3) will not get hyper-threading, which confirms earlier rumors.
| model | C / T | clock | Turbo (Single / Multi) | L3 cache | Storage | TDP | Performance (Single / Multi) | Price EUR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| i7-8700K | 6/12 | 3.7 GHz | 4.7 / 4.3 GHz | 12 MiB | DDR4-2666 | 95 watts | + 11/51% to i7-7700K | 327 |
| i7-8700 | 6/12 | 3.2 GHz | 4.6 / 4.3 GHz | 12 MiB | DDR4-2666 | 65 watts | + 18/58% to i7-7700 | 276 |
| i5-8600K | 6/6 | 3.6 GHz | 4.3 / 4.1 GHz | 9 MiB | DDR4-2666 | 95 watts | + 19/55% to i5-7600K | 229 |
| i5-8400 | 6/6 | 2.8 GHz | 4.0 / 3.8 GHz | 9 MiB | DDR4-2666 | 65 watts | + 29/61% to i5-7400 | 161 |
| i3-8350K | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | - | 8 MiB | DDR4-2400 | 91 watts | + 17/65% to i3-7350K | 158 |
| i3-8300 | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | - | 8 MiB | DDR4-2400 | 65 watts | - | - |
| i3-8100 | 4/4 | 3.6 GHz | - | 6 MiB | DDR4-2400 | 65 watts | + 16/61% to i3-7100K | 103 |
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#5469920 Posted on: 09/07/2017 10:06 AM
Hmmm can you smell that..I smell a possible upgrade coming for my current i5 rig
Hmmm can you smell that..I smell a possible upgrade coming for my current i5 rig
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#5469925 Posted on: 09/07/2017 10:26 AM
Think there will be any reviews of the Coffee Lake processors before launch?
Think there will be any reviews of the Coffee Lake processors before launch?
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#5469934 Posted on: 09/07/2017 11:07 AM
Just wait for WCCF to post something...
Just wait for WCCF to post something...
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#5469943 Posted on: 09/07/2017 11:41 AM
Although I wouldn't buy from Intel again, I'm curious to see their reaction to Ryzen.
Although I wouldn't buy from Intel again, I'm curious to see their reaction to Ryzen.
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#5469948 Posted on: 09/07/2017 11:58 AM
Looks like i5-8400 is a very fine CPU. I appreciate what Intel is doing in response to AMD.
Though personally I'll go Raven Ridge as soon as possible (different segment, I know).
Looks like i5-8400 is a very fine CPU. I appreciate what Intel is doing in response to AMD.
Though personally I'll go Raven Ridge as soon as possible (different segment, I know).
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#5469959 Posted on: 09/07/2017 12:45 PM
I wonder though if most people who wanted a few more cores already bought into Intel's HEDT or AMD Ryzen. Seems like this round of sales may be muted a bit. Pretty awesome 6 cores is here in the consumer CPU space from Intel, these should be wonderfull CPU's..
The 10 year old q6600 vs the 7700k the difference is smaller than I expected. Was just curious thinking back of how little things progressed in CPU's over the last decade. If you go back another decade from 2007 to 1997 if you pick the best consumer Intel CPU's you would be comparing 300 MHz Pentium II(single core cpu) to the Q6600 (quad core).
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/1980vs3647
I wonder though if most people who wanted a few more cores already bought into Intel's HEDT or AMD Ryzen. Seems like this round of sales may be muted a bit. Pretty awesome 6 cores is here in the consumer CPU space from Intel, these should be wonderfull CPU's..
The 10 year old q6600 vs the 7700k the difference is smaller than I expected. Was just curious thinking back of how little things progressed in CPU's over the last decade. If you go back another decade from 2007 to 1997 if you pick the best consumer Intel CPU's you would be comparing 300 MHz Pentium II(single core cpu) to the Q6600 (quad core).
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/1980vs3647
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#5469964 Posted on: 09/07/2017 01:09 PM
Pricing will be really interesting here. Will AMD drop prices to counter?
Pricing will be really interesting here. Will AMD drop prices to counter?
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#5469965 Posted on: 09/07/2017 01:12 PM
I wonder though if most people who wanted a few more cores already bought into Intel's HEDT or AMD Ryzen. Seems like this round of sales may be muted a bit. Pretty awesome 6 cores is here in the consumer CPU space from Intel, these should be wonderfull CPU's..
The 10 year old q6600 vs the 7700k the difference is smaller than I expected. Was just curious thinking back of how little things progressed in CPU's over the last decade. If you go back another decade from 2007 to 1997 if you pick the best consumer Intel CPU's you would be comparing 300 MHz Pentium II(single core cpu) to the Q6600 (quad core).
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/1980vs3647
Synthetic benches are meaningless. I had a q9450 which was better than a q6600 and when I upgraded to my earliest i7...the i7-870, my framerate in dragon age at the time went from 20 frames in the city to 60, the same same gpu, whatever was the highest at the time, maybe a gtx 280.
There are some games like farcry 2 that had absurd frame rate increases with cpus witb hyperthreading, so I imaging there are a lot more games like that these days, and that's not even getting into the ancient pci and ram specs that you would be stuck with on the q6600 platform.
I wonder though if most people who wanted a few more cores already bought into Intel's HEDT or AMD Ryzen. Seems like this round of sales may be muted a bit. Pretty awesome 6 cores is here in the consumer CPU space from Intel, these should be wonderfull CPU's..
The 10 year old q6600 vs the 7700k the difference is smaller than I expected. Was just curious thinking back of how little things progressed in CPU's over the last decade. If you go back another decade from 2007 to 1997 if you pick the best consumer Intel CPU's you would be comparing 300 MHz Pentium II(single core cpu) to the Q6600 (quad core).
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/1980vs3647
Synthetic benches are meaningless. I had a q9450 which was better than a q6600 and when I upgraded to my earliest i7...the i7-870, my framerate in dragon age at the time went from 20 frames in the city to 60, the same same gpu, whatever was the highest at the time, maybe a gtx 280.
There are some games like farcry 2 that had absurd frame rate increases with cpus witb hyperthreading, so I imaging there are a lot more games like that these days, and that's not even getting into the ancient pci and ram specs that you would be stuck with on the q6600 platform.
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#5469972 Posted on: 09/07/2017 01:29 PM
The 10 year old q6600 vs the 7700k the difference is smaller than I expected.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/1980vs3647
The 10 year old q6600 vs the 7700k the difference is smaller than I expected.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/1980vs3647
You're Kidding... Right?
How the heck my post got a link^???
How the heck my post got a link^???
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#5469977 Posted on: 09/07/2017 01:44 PM
No clue how your post is a link lol. Also Q6600 vs 7700k in gaming according to user benchmark 73% difference not much ay others being 73% and 83% difference mmm nom.
I expect this to be roughly equal to 7700k in gaming and possibly overclocked 7800x and 6850k (if all of these have similar clocks) that is about it.
No clue how your post is a link lol. Also Q6600 vs 7700k in gaming according to user benchmark 73% difference not much ay others being 73% and 83% difference mmm nom.
I expect this to be roughly equal to 7700k in gaming and possibly overclocked 7800x and 6850k (if all of these have similar clocks) that is about it.
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#5469980 Posted on: 09/07/2017 02:04 PM
Ah at $400 usd for top=model I do not see them selling to well to be honest,They need to be in the $250 range in my opinion.
Ah at $400 usd for top=model I do not see them selling to well to be honest,They need to be in the $250 range in my opinion.
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#5469988 Posted on: 09/07/2017 02:15 PM
$250^....Loool........8700k for $250/....its gonna be the fastest gaming processor out the box.
Ah at $400 usd for top=model I do not see them selling to well to be honest,They need to be in the $250 range in my opinion.
$250^....Loool........8700k for $250/....its gonna be the fastest gaming processor out the box.
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#5469994 Posted on: 09/07/2017 02:38 PM
That's quite an odd statement to make. What happens if AMD goes under, would you still never buy from them?
I think as a consumer you should leave all doors open and buy what best suites you at the time.
Example, my friend was very unsure about AMD ryzen, and i showed him how they perform on par in gaming at 1440p in most games and that it was a better and cheaper alternative right now from Intel. He would have most likely never gone for AMD but i showed him he should leave his options open as both intel and AMD seem to be producing good processors right now. it just depends on what you want it for.
Although I wouldn't buy from Intel again, I'm curious to see their reaction to Ryzen.
That's quite an odd statement to make. What happens if AMD goes under, would you still never buy from them?
I think as a consumer you should leave all doors open and buy what best suites you at the time.
Example, my friend was very unsure about AMD ryzen, and i showed him how they perform on par in gaming at 1440p in most games and that it was a better and cheaper alternative right now from Intel. He would have most likely never gone for AMD but i showed him he should leave his options open as both intel and AMD seem to be producing good processors right now. it just depends on what you want it for.
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#5470014 Posted on: 09/07/2017 03:53 PM
That's quite an odd statement to make. What happens if AMD goes under, would you still never buy from them?
I think as a consumer you should leave all doors open and buy what best suites you at the time.
Example, my friend was very unsure about AMD ryzen, and i showed him how they perform on par in gaming at 1440p in most games and that it was a better and cheaper alternative right now from Intel. He would have most likely never gone for AMD but i showed him he should leave his options open as both intel and AMD seem to be producing good processors right now. it just depends on what you want it for.
Yup, a true enthusiast knows no brand loyalty. You should always get the best product for you and your particular needs, at a price that you're most comfortable with.
Coffee Lake will probably make great gaming processors, but I think most of the benefits will be for those who can make use of those extra cores. Streamers, small-time content creators, or anyone needing a boost to multicore tasks. For someone who just plays games and has a 7700K or equivalent, it probably won't be worth upgrading.
That's quite an odd statement to make. What happens if AMD goes under, would you still never buy from them?
I think as a consumer you should leave all doors open and buy what best suites you at the time.
Example, my friend was very unsure about AMD ryzen, and i showed him how they perform on par in gaming at 1440p in most games and that it was a better and cheaper alternative right now from Intel. He would have most likely never gone for AMD but i showed him he should leave his options open as both intel and AMD seem to be producing good processors right now. it just depends on what you want it for.
Yup, a true enthusiast knows no brand loyalty. You should always get the best product for you and your particular needs, at a price that you're most comfortable with.
Coffee Lake will probably make great gaming processors, but I think most of the benefits will be for those who can make use of those extra cores. Streamers, small-time content creators, or anyone needing a boost to multicore tasks. For someone who just plays games and has a 7700K or equivalent, it probably won't be worth upgrading.
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Nice. I can't wait to see how these are for gaming.