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Intel 300 series chipsets to integrate USB 3.1 Gen 2 and Gigabit WIFI
Intel is going to release two new platforms in the coming months which consists of the X299 HEDT based CPUs and the other is the mainstream Coffee Lake based CPUs.
The upcoming Intel mainsteam chipset is known as the 300 series and we can expect that the top end chipset would be called Z370 which ironically sounds similar to AMDs X370 chipset.
Intel 300 series desktop processor motherboard will be based on the current LGA 1151 socket. Earlier rumours stated that the 300 Series chipset's Coffee Lake-S processor will provide 6 Cores 12 threaded CPUS, which is Intel's first in the mainstream platform to enhance the number of processors and threads.
AMD has already put forward their 8 Cores 16 Threads and 6 Cores 12 threads CPUs at price point lower than Intel, although there are a few bugs, but the performance is quite good for the money. Now, intel is pushing forward its new CPUs. At this stage, Intel 300 series processors will be have integrated USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps) and Gigabit Wi-Fi which are some nice additions to this new platform.
It is rumoured that Intel will release their Coffee-Lake CPUs in the later half of 2017.
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#5421434 Posted on: 04/17/2017 10:04 AM
Unless Intel decides to move forward and bring hexa cores i5/i7s on this platform this will be another boring minor "upgrade" to only justify the 300 sticker on it.
Unless Intel decides to move forward and bring hexa cores i5/i7s on this platform this will be another boring minor "upgrade" to only justify the 300 sticker on it.
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#5421443 Posted on: 04/17/2017 10:49 AM
OK now this 300 series platform I feel is taking the piss a little
Is there any reason why CoffeeLake won't work on Z200 series!? And why wasn't USB 3.1 Gen2 natively on Z200 series to begin with!?
Whats makes this even stranger is Intels inclusion of KabylakeX 4 core on the X299 platform when their seemingly introducing 6 cores to mainstream
OK now this 300 series platform I feel is taking the piss a little
Is there any reason why CoffeeLake won't work on Z200 series!? And why wasn't USB 3.1 Gen2 natively on Z200 series to begin with!?
Whats makes this even stranger is Intels inclusion of KabylakeX 4 core on the X299 platform when their seemingly introducing 6 cores to mainstream
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#5421470 Posted on: 04/17/2017 12:58 PM
So you will through out your Z270 MB just to get Integrated USB 3.1 and Gigabit WiFi? Sounds like a waste of money again.
So you will through out your Z270 MB just to get Integrated USB 3.1 and Gigabit WiFi? Sounds like a waste of money again.
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#5421472 Posted on: 04/17/2017 01:08 PM
I don't get it. Obviously there are people upgrading from older platforms than Z270. So what do you want them to do for a platform update? Just delay it until there are enough features that make it worth it for the previous platform owners? Because that seems like a poor business decision and ****ty for everyone else who now has to wait because someone who bought Z270 is upset that they are being tempted by two new features.
So you will through out your Z270 MB just to get Integrated USB 3.1 and Gigabit WiFi? Sounds like a waste of money again.
I don't get it. Obviously there are people upgrading from older platforms than Z270. So what do you want them to do for a platform update? Just delay it until there are enough features that make it worth it for the previous platform owners? Because that seems like a poor business decision and ****ty for everyone else who now has to wait because someone who bought Z270 is upset that they are being tempted by two new features.
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#5421489 Posted on: 04/17/2017 01:58 PM
Whats the Gigabit Ethernet headline about? Its not otherwise mentioned in the article or the Intel sheet, or was it meant to refer to the WiFi, not actual Ethernet?
(Who cares about WiFi on a desktop PC anyway?)
Gigabit WiFi in an enterprise/office setting will be hugely popular. Places where it is difficult to run cable but needs network connectivity, etc.
Whats the Gigabit Ethernet headline about? Its not otherwise mentioned in the article or the Intel sheet, or was it meant to refer to the WiFi, not actual Ethernet?
(Who cares about WiFi on a desktop PC anyway?)
Gigabit WiFi in an enterprise/office setting will be hugely popular. Places where it is difficult to run cable but needs network connectivity, etc.
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#5421490 Posted on: 04/17/2017 01:59 PM
While I "think" I'm done with Intel once ITX Ryzen Mobos are available, this is a good evolution of the chipset. Built-in WiGig will be great, and hopefully with 3.1 Gen 2 USB-C becomes a PC standard.
While I "think" I'm done with Intel once ITX Ryzen Mobos are available, this is a good evolution of the chipset. Built-in WiGig will be great, and hopefully with 3.1 Gen 2 USB-C becomes a PC standard.
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#5421503 Posted on: 04/17/2017 02:51 PM
So from what i understand, the new chipset will maintain the current socket 1151, does this means that there´s a small chance that Cannonlake cpus will work on current Z170/Z270 boards???
As for the new features, they are cool, nothing more.
So from what i understand, the new chipset will maintain the current socket 1151, does this means that there´s a small chance that Cannonlake cpus will work on current Z170/Z270 boards???
As for the new features, they are cool, nothing more.
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#5421509 Posted on: 04/17/2017 03:03 PM
So from what i understand, the new chipset will maintain the current socket 1151, does this means that there´s a small chance that Cannonlake cpus will work on current Z170/Z270 boards???
As for the new features, they are cool, nothing more.
First of all Cannonlake has to come to the desktop segment. I really think they will jump straight to Ice Lake as the first 10nm desktop SKU.
And even if Cannonlake desktop will appear in 2018, these Z170 boards will be ~3 years old so basically out of support anyway.
So from what i understand, the new chipset will maintain the current socket 1151, does this means that there´s a small chance that Cannonlake cpus will work on current Z170/Z270 boards???
As for the new features, they are cool, nothing more.
First of all Cannonlake has to come to the desktop segment. I really think they will jump straight to Ice Lake as the first 10nm desktop SKU.
And even if Cannonlake desktop will appear in 2018, these Z170 boards will be ~3 years old so basically out of support anyway.
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#5421517 Posted on: 04/17/2017 03:54 PM
OK now this 300 series platform I feel is taking the piss a little
Is there any reason why CoffeeLake won't work on Z200 series!? And why wasn't USB 3.1 Gen2 natively on Z200 series to begin with!?
Whats makes this even stranger is Intels inclusion of KabylakeX 4 core on the X299 platform when their seemingly introducing 6 cores to mainstream
dont think gen2 already available on Z200 release, thats why it still gen1
i just hear about it recently
anyway in most common case, people wont going use full speed either
gen1 is 5gbps... gen2 10gbps so theoretical maximum speed same to thunderbolt gen1
most device will give bottleneck than the port first
like usb hdd or thumbdrive wont get that fast, even you buy the high-end model
for socket, well its intel culture more than other reason i guess lol
maybe their deal with mobo-maker or else... we dont know for sure
OK now this 300 series platform I feel is taking the piss a little
Is there any reason why CoffeeLake won't work on Z200 series!? And why wasn't USB 3.1 Gen2 natively on Z200 series to begin with!?
Whats makes this even stranger is Intels inclusion of KabylakeX 4 core on the X299 platform when their seemingly introducing 6 cores to mainstream
dont think gen2 already available on Z200 release, thats why it still gen1
i just hear about it recently
anyway in most common case, people wont going use full speed either
gen1 is 5gbps... gen2 10gbps so theoretical maximum speed same to thunderbolt gen1
most device will give bottleneck than the port first
like usb hdd or thumbdrive wont get that fast, even you buy the high-end model
for socket, well its intel culture more than other reason i guess lol
maybe their deal with mobo-maker or else... we dont know for sure
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#5421532 Posted on: 04/17/2017 04:53 PM
"Gigabit" Wi-Fi for desktop?!
Give me 10GbE !!
"Gigabit" Wi-Fi for desktop?!
Give me 10GbE !!
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#5421607 Posted on: 04/17/2017 07:46 PM
So their HEDT platform will be x299, which implies it'll be in the 200 series, which implies it won't have USB 3.1 (gen2), or etc. but all the purposefully outdated technology of the 200 series?
I don't understand.
The fact that the 200 series itself does not have features such as USB 3.1 (gen2) and is a 2017 chipset itself is astonishing.
So their HEDT platform will be x299, which implies it'll be in the 200 series, which implies it won't have USB 3.1 (gen2), or etc. but all the purposefully outdated technology of the 200 series?
I don't understand.
The fact that the 200 series itself does not have features such as USB 3.1 (gen2) and is a 2017 chipset itself is astonishing.
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#5421615 Posted on: 04/17/2017 08:07 PM
Damn, it took 10 years more than any other device to get onboard wifi.
I dont use neither like wifi on desktop, but is a MUST. It s a joke needing an ethernet cable this days. Most casual pc users dont even know what an ethernet cable is or how is connected.
Hope they put wifi on every 300 chipset.
Tvs, streaming media players, phones, consoles, even the freaking fridge has wifi.
But the most advanced and productive piece of technolgy on your house, been lacking wifi for more than 10 years. Shame on you manufacturers.
Damn, it took 10 years more than any other device to get onboard wifi.
I dont use neither like wifi on desktop, but is a MUST. It s a joke needing an ethernet cable this days. Most casual pc users dont even know what an ethernet cable is or how is connected.
Hope they put wifi on every 300 chipset.
Tvs, streaming media players, phones, consoles, even the freaking fridge has wifi.
But the most advanced and productive piece of technolgy on your house, been lacking wifi for more than 10 years. Shame on you manufacturers.
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#5421617 Posted on: 04/17/2017 08:14 PM
So their HEDT platform will be x299, which implies it'll be in the 200 series, which implies it won't have USB 3.1 (gen2), or etc. but all the purposefully outdated technology of the 200 series?
I don't understand.
The fact that the 200 series itself does not have features such as USB 3.1 (gen2) and is a 2017 chipset itself is astonishing.
I would be extremely surprised if X299 does not have native 3.1 Gen 2.
So their HEDT platform will be x299, which implies it'll be in the 200 series, which implies it won't have USB 3.1 (gen2), or etc. but all the purposefully outdated technology of the 200 series?
I don't understand.
The fact that the 200 series itself does not have features such as USB 3.1 (gen2) and is a 2017 chipset itself is astonishing.
I would be extremely surprised if X299 does not have native 3.1 Gen 2.
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#5423298 Posted on: 04/22/2017 03:38 AM
I would want to say i agree, but then why would it not be part of the 300 series family, the only one to state it will?
unless they are just going by the idea that x299 does not imply it's part of the 200 series, in which case, wtf is even the point in the naming?
I would be extremely surprised if X299 does not have native 3.1 Gen 2.
I would want to say i agree, but then why would it not be part of the 300 series family, the only one to state it will?
unless they are just going by the idea that x299 does not imply it's part of the 200 series, in which case, wtf is even the point in the naming?
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Whats the Gigabit Ethernet headline about? Its not otherwise mentioned in the article or the Intel sheet, or was it meant to refer to the WiFi, not actual Ethernet?
(Who cares about WiFi on a desktop PC anyway?)