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Guru3D.com » News » Initial AMD Technical Assessment of CTS Labs Research

Initial AMD Technical Assessment of CTS Labs Research

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 03/21/2018 08:05 AM | source: | 29 comment(s)
Initial AMD Technical Assessment of CTS Labs Research

AMD now officially responded to the existence of the bugs related to its Ryzen processors, exactly one week after the existence of the security problems have been made public by CTS labs. The CTO states it has been able to reproduce the mentioned issues in the security processor and the chipset developed by ASMedia. 

BIOS updates and firmware patches are on the way, also for PSP. The PSP is an ARM core integrated in AMD processors that enables remote management, similar to the Intel Management Engine.

--- AMD---

On March 12, 2018, AMD received a communication from CTS Labs regarding research into security vulnerabilities involving some AMD products. Less than 24 hours later, the research firm went public with its findings. 

Security and protecting users’ data is of the utmost importance to us at AMD and we have worked rapidly to assess this security research and develop mitigation plans where needed. This is our first public update on this research, and will cover both our technical assessment of the issues as well as planned mitigation actions.

The security issues identified by the third-party researchers are not related to the AMD “Zen” CPU architecture or the Google Project Zero exploits made public Jan. 3, 2018. Instead, these issues are associated with the firmware managing the embedded security control processor in some of our products (AMD Secure Processor) and the chipset used in some socket AM4 and socket TR4 desktop platforms supporting AMD processors. As described in more detail below, AMD has rapidly completed its assessment and is in the process of developing and staging the deployment of mitigations.

It’s important to note that all the issues raised in the research require administrative access to the system, a type of access that effectively grants the user unrestricted access to the system and the right to delete, create or modify any of the folders or files on the computer, as well as change any settings. Any attacker gaining unauthorized administrative access would have a wide range of attacks at their disposal well beyond the exploits identified in this research. Further, all modern operating systems and enterprise-quality hypervisors today have many effective security controls, such as Microsoft Windows Credential Guard in the Windows environment, in place to prevent unauthorized administrative access that would need to be overcome in order to affect these security issues. A useful clarification of the difficulties associated with successfully exploiting these issues can be found in this posting from Trail of Bits, an independent security research firm who were contracted by the third-party researchers to verify their findings.

The security issues identified can be grouped into three major categories. The table below describes the categories, the AMD assessment of impact, and planned actions.

 

Vulnerability Groups

Problem Description & Method of Exploitation

Potential Impact

Planned AMD Mitigation

MASTERKEY

and

PSP Privilege Escalation

(AMD Secure Processor or “PSP” firmware)

Issue: Attacker who already has compromised the security of a system updates flash to corrupt its contents. AMD Secure Processor (PSP) checks do not detect the corruption.

 

Method: Attacker requires Administrative access

Attacker can circumvent platform security controls. These changes are persistent following a system reboot.

Firmware patch release through BIOS update. No performance impact is expected.

 

AMD is working on PSP firmware updates that we plan to release in the coming weeks.

 

RYZENFALL and FALLOUT

 

(AMD Secure Processor firmware)

 

Issue: Attacker who already has compromised the security of a system writes to AMD Secure Processor registers to exploit vulnerabilities in the interface between x86 and AMD Secure Processor (PSP).

 

Method: Attacker requires Administrative access.

 

Attacker can circumvent platform security controls but is not persistent across reboots.

 

Attacker may install difficult to detect malware in SMM (x86).

 

Firmware patch release through BIOS update. No performance impact is expected.

 

AMD is working on PSP firmware updates that we plan to release in the coming weeks.

“Promotory” 
Chipset

CHIMERA

“Promontory” chipset used in many socket AM4 desktop and socket TR4 high-end desktop (HEDT) platforms.

AMD EPYC server platforms, EPYC and Ryzen Embedded platforms, and AMD Ryzen Mobile FP5 platforms do not use the “Promontory” chipset.

Issue: Attacker who already has compromised the security of a system installs a malicious driver that exposes certain Promontory functions.

 

Method: Attacker requires Administrative access.

Attacker accesses physical memory through the chipset.

 

Attacker installs difficult to detect malware in the chipset but is not persistent across reboots.

Mitigating patches released through BIOS update. No performance impact is expected.

 

AMD is working with the third-party provider that designed and manufactured the “Promontory” chipset on appropriate mitigations.

  

AMD will provide additional updates on both our analysis of these issues and the related mitigation plans in the coming weeks.







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Fox2232
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#5530212 Posted on: 03/21/2018 07:47 PM
Yes they confirmed it because you can attack the computer if you have admin rights, but if you have admin rights anyway you could just attack windows itself and not limit your attack to AMD only.
I am guessing here, but i think that Asus and Asrock is now busy applying the AMD fixes to the Asmedia chips installed on many Asus and Asrock Intel boards.

Many of these attacks could effect Intel also, if you have the skills it should be possible to mod a Intel bios, to compromise a Intel system.
They managed to install a 8000 i3 CPU in a 100 series chipset motherboard by modding the bios, so modding to compromise a system should be possible.
Intel's IME was successfully modified/disabled... That's bigger than just changing microcode of one CPU series for another.

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#5530229 Posted on: 03/21/2018 08:40 PM
I said it once i will say it again social media site are bad stupid people like to out security flaws there and shit tend to hit the fan when that happens. istead of telling the right people and them deal with it and keeping silent about till then, people and other companys just want there name in news and time in the spotline, reguardless to the damage they cause.

I probably need another bios now cause quite few of my board has a asmedia chip on it too and my current board has a 3.1usb a and 3.1 usb c port that use asmedia

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#5530237 Posted on: 03/21/2018 08:58 PM
It's just like someone else sitting at your computer may delete stuff if you give them full control. Or if hackers are already in the door they can do many things including doing nothing but spying on you, which i find more serious than some malware spreader.

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#5530266 Posted on: 03/21/2018 10:12 PM
Also "funny" that the results were published less than 24 hrs after contacting AMD...

looks like they did that so they can claim to have done the "right thing" by contacting AMD first, only.
Spectre and Meltdown were kept under wraps for what, 6 months? To give Intel, AMD, ... time to investigate and prevent exploits meanwhile.

Really hope this doesn't become a trend but now that it's been done once...

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#5530285 Posted on: 03/21/2018 11:32 PM
Also "funny" that the results were published less than 24 hrs after contacting AMD...

looks like they did that so they can claim to have done the "right thing" by contacting AMD first, only.
Spectre and Meltdown were kept under wraps for what, 6 months? To give Intel, AMD, ... time to investigate and prevent exploits meanwhile.

Really hope this doesn't become a trend but now that it's been done once...
Let's be modern, We Have To Blame Russia. We Must Be Sure that They Want to Promote their Baikal Chips.

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