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Intel is a big fan of swapping out CPU socket as often as they can, it seems that with the successor to Broadwell-E, the Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X (yes the X is new) we'll move to Socket 2066. new information surfaced, read it after the break.
The platform for all this is called Basin Falls platform and includes new processors and a chipset refresh with a new socket . Socket R4, as the official code name reads is getting 2,066 pins and provides a home to two new Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X series.
Skylake-X will include six , eight and ten core CPUs with a TDP around 140 watts and thus follow Broadwell-E . Under the name Kaby Lake-X there are also will be quad-cores for socket 2066, with fewer PCI Express lanes and only two memory channels. Also for Kaby Lake-X Turbo Boost 3.0 is not supported. There will also be a new chipset which includes ten integrated USB 3.0 ports and eight SATA600 ports. It is still unclear whether USB 3.1 will also be part of the chipset. We do know that there are up to 24 PCI Express 3.0 lanes , and a built-in Intel LAN controller are present. According to the leaked slides, the new processors come to market in the second half of 2017.
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#5309112 Posted on: 07/20/2016 08:51 AM
this time intel naming kinda confusing
i thought -X is replacing -E that for enthusiast class
then what with the kabylake-X (4cores/16lanes) ?
are they planning to merge/release desktop socket to just one type now ?
this time intel naming kinda confusing
i thought -X is replacing -E that for enthusiast class
then what with the kabylake-X (4cores/16lanes) ?
are they planning to merge/release desktop socket to just one type now ?
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#5309115 Posted on: 07/20/2016 08:59 AM
It is just to satisfy upgrade itch. Because there will be many people who may move to Zen just because it is new and shiny platform even if it is just small upgrade over their few years old intel system.
By releasing new socket, manufacturers will make new boards and they'll flood market with even more products for customer to pick from.
(Decreasing chance that someone will jump to AMD's ship.)
It is sound market practice. But unless it brings some new features which were not possible otherwise, it is bad for customer.
It is just to satisfy upgrade itch. Because there will be many people who may move to Zen just because it is new and shiny platform even if it is just small upgrade over their few years old intel system.
By releasing new socket, manufacturers will make new boards and they'll flood market with even more products for customer to pick from.
(Decreasing chance that someone will jump to AMD's ship.)
It is sound market practice. But unless it brings some new features which were not possible otherwise, it is bad for customer.
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#5309189 Posted on: 07/20/2016 12:31 PM
That late? I was expecting Skylake-E in Q2 like Broadwell-E. After all Skylake is already quite old, and more than two years after the mainstream CPUs is late. May be too late for me then, but I really don't want to buy a new machine right before a new socket comes out either. Like always I assume that the strong dollar won't make the prices in dollars go down, but rather up like usual. It can't be worse than GFX cards though, with a 140% price jump in 5 years because of both exchange rates and increased prices to begin with. I expect the GTX 1080 Ti to be almost 3x as expensive as the 580 was here in Norway, and I guess that Intel will follow that up nicely with the lack of competition.
That late? I was expecting Skylake-E in Q2 like Broadwell-E. After all Skylake is already quite old, and more than two years after the mainstream CPUs is late. May be too late for me then, but I really don't want to buy a new machine right before a new socket comes out either. Like always I assume that the strong dollar won't make the prices in dollars go down, but rather up like usual. It can't be worse than GFX cards though, with a 140% price jump in 5 years because of both exchange rates and increased prices to begin with. I expect the GTX 1080 Ti to be almost 3x as expensive as the 580 was here in Norway, and I guess that Intel will follow that up nicely with the lack of competition.
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#5309216 Posted on: 07/20/2016 01:08 PM
its been the trend in intel to release enthusiast class late
and rather CPU performance, it kind of shifted to PCH that give "extra" compared to mainstream PCH
the enthusiast CPU is just more cores compared to mainsteam rather than big-improvement, even theres improvement its just slight (looking to ivy-haswell-broadwell), except you fully using all cores
so not really worth the price/value
we can say intel enthusiast platform is more like a bundle (CPU+PCH/mobo)
but maybe will change with kabylake-x... if kabylake-x inteded for mainstream
then people can choose which cpu they want, either enthusiast version or mainsteam ... considering the socket same, the mobo should support it
That late? I was expecting Skylake-E in Q3 like Broadwell-E. After all Skylake is already quite old, and more than two years after the mainstream CPUs is late. May be too late for me then, but I really don't want to buy a new machine right before a new socket comes out either. Like always I assume that the strong dollar won't make the prices in dollars go down, but rather up like usual. It can't be worse than GFX cards though, with a 140% price jump in 5 years because of both exchange rates and increased prices to begin with. I expect the GTX 1080 Ti to be almost 3x as expensive as the 580 was here in Norway, and I guess that Intel will follow that up nicely with the lack of competition.
its been the trend in intel to release enthusiast class late
and rather CPU performance, it kind of shifted to PCH that give "extra" compared to mainstream PCH
the enthusiast CPU is just more cores compared to mainsteam rather than big-improvement, even theres improvement its just slight (looking to ivy-haswell-broadwell), except you fully using all cores
so not really worth the price/value
we can say intel enthusiast platform is more like a bundle (CPU+PCH/mobo)
but maybe will change with kabylake-x... if kabylake-x inteded for mainstream
then people can choose which cpu they want, either enthusiast version or mainsteam ... considering the socket same, the mobo should support it
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Not surprised, somebody has to sell new mainboards