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HDD roadmap predicts 100TB HDDs by 2025
Okay so it's gonna be a while, but the Advanced Storage Technology Consortium (ASTC), consisting out of parties like HGT, Seagate and WD, states that storage density expand 10 times by the year 2025. That would bopils down to 100TB HDDs (in 2025).
Perpendicular magnetic recording enables areal densities of under 1Tb/in² but new recording methods are expected to increase storage density to 10Tb/in² by 2025, paving the way for HDDs with a capacity of 100TB. Here's tachreport on this report:
Right now, we're in perpendicular territory, with areal densities under 1Tb/in². Shingled magnetic recording has already appeared in datacenter drives optimized for cold storage. Along with two-dimensional recording, a similar and potentially complementary approach, shingled tech looks poised to drive density scaling until at least 2017. That's when heat-assisted hotness is slated to take over, the crystal ball says. If the ASTC's projections are accurate, heat-assisted and bit-patterned recording will combine around 2021, pushing areal densities up to 10Tb/in² by 2025. In a four-platter consumer unit like Seagate's Desktop HDD.15 4TB, which packs only 625Gb/in², that density would theoretically fuel 64TB of storage. Well over 100TB would be possible with a seven-platter monster like HGST's enterprise-oriented Ultrastar He8.
Now, the ASTC's members won't necessarily hit all of their targets—a lot can happen over the course of a decade. But this is the plan as it stands right now. Kudos to Forbes contributor Tom Coughlin for being the first to publish the roadmap.
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#4968152 Posted on: 11/27/2014 03:27 PM
I'm not sure if I would be still interested in mechanical HDD's 10 years from now even for storage purposes because it's obvious that mechanical HDD's can keep up anymore or gain much more speed in the future paired with future (even current) lightning speed CPU's and everything else.
If SSD technology can't mature enough and becomes cheaper so that everyone can own affordable 5 to 10TB SSD in their HTPC/business/gaming rig 10 years from now then... then I don't know what to say.
Good point, i think maybe we can see affordable 2 TB SSDs in next two years, but i'm not an expert.
I'm not sure if I would be still interested in mechanical HDD's 10 years from now even for storage purposes because it's obvious that mechanical HDD's can keep up anymore or gain much more speed in the future paired with future (even current) lightning speed CPU's and everything else.
If SSD technology can't mature enough and becomes cheaper so that everyone can own affordable 5 to 10TB SSD in their HTPC/business/gaming rig 10 years from now then... then I don't know what to say.
Good point, i think maybe we can see affordable 2 TB SSDs in next two years, but i'm not an expert.
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#4968175 Posted on: 11/27/2014 03:48 PM
10 times? Where is my cheap 10TB HDD?
10 times? Where is my cheap 10TB HDD?
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#4968203 Posted on: 11/27/2014 04:17 PM
100TB... TBH I'm not sure if I would ever need so much storage space as long as I live. Dozen of HTPC's & gaming rigs with HDD's/SSD's inside in my house together with NAS storage are something around 15 to 16TB and more than 1/2 of that space is unused. Few dozens of games in my kids gaming rigs, huge collection of personal pics and videos, I don't watch/collect movies/porns - I like to do that live
... and I should be just fine with rest of free HDD/SSD storage space in my house for another 5, 10, maybe even 15 years from now.
But I'm sure out there 10, 15 years from now there will be enough Virtual/3D porn movies collectors with need for huge amount of storage space, 100TB, 200TB of space, meh, even that wouldn't be enough for them
100TB... TBH I'm not sure if I would ever need so much storage space as long as I live. Dozen of HTPC's & gaming rigs with HDD's/SSD's inside in my house together with NAS storage are something around 15 to 16TB and more than 1/2 of that space is unused. Few dozens of games in my kids gaming rigs, huge collection of personal pics and videos, I don't watch/collect movies/porns - I like to do that live
... and I should be just fine with rest of free HDD/SSD storage space in my house for another 5, 10, maybe even 15 years from now.But I'm sure out there 10, 15 years from now there will be enough Virtual/3D porn movies collectors with need for huge amount of storage space, 100TB, 200TB of space, meh, even that wouldn't be enough for them
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#4968219 Posted on: 11/27/2014 04:37 PM
100TB... TBH I'm not sure if I would ever need so much storage space as long as I live. Dozen of HTPC's & gaming rigs with HDD's/SSD's inside in my house together with NAS storage are something around 15 to 16TB and more than 1/2 of that space is unused. Few dozens of games in my kids gaming rigs, huge collection of personal pics and videos, I don't watch/collect movies/porns - I like to do that live... and I should be just fine with rest of free HDD/SSD storage space in my house for another 5, 10, maybe even 15 years from now.
But I'm sure out there 10, 15 years from now there will be enough Virtual/3D porn movies collectors with need for huge amount of storage space, 100TB, 200TB of space, meh, even that wouldn't be enough for them
Yuck, you watch porn. Gross. TBH, I presume there will be 16k screens by then, thats 36 megapixel per frame. A single movie would be around 1/2 TB. That would be 200 movies on 100TB drive.
100TB... TBH I'm not sure if I would ever need so much storage space as long as I live. Dozen of HTPC's & gaming rigs with HDD's/SSD's inside in my house together with NAS storage are something around 15 to 16TB and more than 1/2 of that space is unused. Few dozens of games in my kids gaming rigs, huge collection of personal pics and videos, I don't watch/collect movies/porns - I like to do that live
... and I should be just fine with rest of free HDD/SSD storage space in my house for another 5, 10, maybe even 15 years from now.
But I'm sure out there 10, 15 years from now there will be enough Virtual/3D porn movies collectors with need for huge amount of storage space, 100TB, 200TB of space, meh, even that wouldn't be enough for them
Yuck, you watch porn. Gross. TBH, I presume there will be 16k screens by then, thats 36 megapixel per frame. A single movie would be around 1/2 TB. That would be 200 movies on 100TB drive.
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#4968235 Posted on: 11/27/2014 04:51 PM
lol, I barely even watch TV, maybe few hours a week after work (mostly Discovery Channel and National Geographic), can't remember last time I've watched some movie or porn on my TV/PC. When I want to watch some movie I go to cinema with my wife and/or kids, since I was kid I've always loved cinema much more than watching movies on small CRT/LCD screen, feeling is just too much different for me. But few of my friends are movies/porn maniacs, their HDD's are almost always full of those stuff, all of them are married (and their wifes know about that), I don't understand
Maybe it's about a time for me to start watching porns again like I've used to to that when I was younger, much younger and bring something new into my bed
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Recently I've "discovered" Popcorn Time for my kids: they love it, huge collection of old and latest cartoons, movies for kids, I guess stuff for adults can be found there also, great quallity (720p, 1080p)... With Popcorn Time who need so much storage space for huge movies/porn collection when everything is just few clicks away. But even with Popcorn Time cinema is stil my No.1.
Yuck, you watch porn. Gross. TBH, I presume there will be 16k screens by then, thats 36 megapixel per frame. A single movie would be around 1/2 TB. That would be 200 movies on 100TB drive.
lol, I barely even watch TV, maybe few hours a week after work (mostly Discovery Channel and National Geographic), can't remember last time I've watched some movie or porn on my TV/PC. When I want to watch some movie I go to cinema with my wife and/or kids, since I was kid I've always loved cinema much more than watching movies on small CRT/LCD screen, feeling is just too much different for me. But few of my friends are movies/porn maniacs, their HDD's are almost always full of those stuff, all of them are married (and their wifes know about that), I don't understand
Maybe it's about a time for me to start watching porns again like I've used to to that when I was younger, much younger and bring something new into my bed edit
Recently I've "discovered" Popcorn Time for my kids: they love it, huge collection of old and latest cartoons, movies for kids, I guess stuff for adults can be found there also
, great quallity (720p, 1080p)... With Popcorn Time who need so much storage space for huge movies/porn collection when everything is just few clicks away. But even with Popcorn Time cinema is stil my No.1.
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#4968266 Posted on: 11/27/2014 05:26 PM
Well some new games take 50GB hard drive space, 10 years ago the newest games needed 2GB, thats 25 times as much. So its possible in another 10 years a new game may need over 1TB of disc space.
Well some new games take 50GB hard drive space, 10 years ago the newest games needed 2GB, thats 25 times as much. So its possible in another 10 years a new game may need over 1TB of disc space.
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#4968269 Posted on: 11/27/2014 05:33 PM
^lol 1tb per game that would be sick, internet speeds are the main drawback imo
^lol 1tb per game that would be sick, internet speeds are the main drawback imo
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#4968297 Posted on: 11/27/2014 06:50 PM
wish prices would come down. £190 for 6tb :/
wish prices would come down. £190 for 6tb :/
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#4968301 Posted on: 11/27/2014 07:00 PM
I've learned never to say things like that about tech - about 18-20 years ago I knew someone with a 10GB HDD, and I said the same thing
It's all relevant, as net speeds increase, games get more complex and much bigger, movies start getting released in 24k or whatever 10 years from now will bring, - 100TB HDDs might not seem so big by then
100TB... TBH I'm not sure if I would ever need so much storage space as long as I live.
I've learned never to say things like that about tech - about 18-20 years ago I knew someone with a 10GB HDD, and I said the same thing
It's all relevant, as net speeds increase, games get more complex and much bigger, movies start getting released in 24k or whatever 10 years from now will bring, - 100TB HDDs might not seem so big by then
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#4968323 Posted on: 11/27/2014 07:40 PM
I dont see Mechanical HDD lasting that long unless they find way to significantly increase there speeds,
Even the fast hdd atm are system bottlenecks. Like others have said, IF we dont have affordable SSD by then we got problem
I dont see Mechanical HDD lasting that long unless they find way to significantly increase there speeds,
Even the fast hdd atm are system bottlenecks. Like others have said, IF we dont have affordable SSD by then we got problem
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#4968342 Posted on: 11/27/2014 08:07 PM
I've learned never to say things like that about tech - about 18-20 years ago I knew someone with a 10GB HDD, and I said the same thing
It's all relevant, as net speeds increase, games get more complex and much bigger, movies start getting released in 24k or whatever 10 years from now will bring, - 100TB HDDs might not seem so big by then
I know what you mean, just to refresh everyones memory here with famous Bil Gates words: "640 k ought to be enough for anybody"
Speaking for myself... As time passes and I'm geting older, pardon, leveling up, I become more and more modest in my demands, especially for space I use to storage my personal things like personal photos, videos, documents etc. I don't game much these days, haven't watched/downloades movie from internet for ages (at least 10 years) and my needs for personal storage space are getting smaller as time passes. I have maybe 3 or 4TB of personal documents, photos and videos (kids, family, weddings, birthdays, scaned pics from childhood ...) on home NAS and that's all. The rest of 11, maybe 12TB of home storage space is spreaded across many HTPC's and gaming rigs and noone at home is complaining (yet) that he lacks of free storage space on his rig. I highly doubt I will use more than aditional 10 or 20TB on NAS in next 20 or 30 years. Just for example my main HTPC for Skype, surfing, e-mail I'm siting in front of it right now has 60GB SSD and 320GB HDD and I'm more than happy with it. There is more than 200GB of space available on HDD, and more than 30GB of free space on SSD and it's been that way in at least past 3 years.
But who knows, maybe 5 or 10 years from now my wife dumps me and I will be forced to buy 50TB NAS to download a lot of porns and satisfy my needs
I've learned never to say things like that about tech - about 18-20 years ago I knew someone with a 10GB HDD, and I said the same thing
It's all relevant, as net speeds increase, games get more complex and much bigger, movies start getting released in 24k or whatever 10 years from now will bring, - 100TB HDDs might not seem so big by then
I know what you mean, just to refresh everyones memory here with famous Bil Gates words: "640 k ought to be enough for anybody"
Speaking for myself... As time passes and I'm geting older, pardon, leveling up, I become more and more modest in my demands, especially for space I use to storage my personal things like personal photos, videos, documents etc. I don't game much these days, haven't watched/downloades movie from internet for ages (at least 10 years) and my needs for personal storage space are getting smaller as time passes. I have maybe 3 or 4TB of personal documents, photos and videos (kids, family, weddings, birthdays, scaned pics from childhood ...) on home NAS and that's all. The rest of 11, maybe 12TB of home storage space is spreaded across many HTPC's and gaming rigs and noone at home is complaining (yet) that he lacks of free storage space on his rig. I highly doubt I will use more than aditional 10 or 20TB on NAS in next 20 or 30 years. Just for example my main HTPC for Skype, surfing, e-mail I'm siting in front of it right now has 60GB SSD and 320GB HDD and I'm more than happy with it. There is more than 200GB of space available on HDD, and more than 30GB of free space on SSD and it's been that way in at least past 3 years.
But who knows, maybe 5 or 10 years from now my wife dumps me and I will be forced to buy 50TB NAS to download a lot of porns and satisfy my needs
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#4968347 Posted on: 11/27/2014 08:15 PM
lol
Or when Digital cameras start taking 2000MP photos @ 500MB each
lolOr when Digital cameras start taking 2000MP photos @ 500MB each
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#4968359 Posted on: 11/27/2014 08:41 PM
100TB... TBH I'm not sure if I would ever need so much storage space as long as I live. Dozen of HTPC's & gaming rigs with HDD's/SSD's inside in my house together with NAS storage are something around 15 to 16TB and more than 1/2 of that space is unused. Few dozens of games in my kids gaming rigs, huge collection of personal pics and videos, I don't watch/collect movies/porns - I like to do that live... and I should be just fine with rest of free HDD/SSD storage space in my house for another 5, 10, maybe even 15 years from now.
But I'm sure out there 10, 15 years from now there will be enough Virtual/3D porn movies collectors with need for huge amount of storage space, 100TB, 200TB of space, meh, even that wouldn't be enough for them
You say that now, but I remember my old 286 machine has a 100MB harddrive and I thought I would NEVER use it all. Blu-Ray's will be old news at that point and there will probably be some new disc that can hold 1TB or more.
100TB... TBH I'm not sure if I would ever need so much storage space as long as I live. Dozen of HTPC's & gaming rigs with HDD's/SSD's inside in my house together with NAS storage are something around 15 to 16TB and more than 1/2 of that space is unused. Few dozens of games in my kids gaming rigs, huge collection of personal pics and videos, I don't watch/collect movies/porns - I like to do that live
... and I should be just fine with rest of free HDD/SSD storage space in my house for another 5, 10, maybe even 15 years from now.
But I'm sure out there 10, 15 years from now there will be enough Virtual/3D porn movies collectors with need for huge amount of storage space, 100TB, 200TB of space, meh, even that wouldn't be enough for them
You say that now, but I remember my old 286 machine has a 100MB harddrive and I thought I would NEVER use it all. Blu-Ray's will be old news at that point and there will probably be some new disc that can hold 1TB or more.
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#4968364 Posted on: 11/27/2014 08:53 PM
Screw porn!! 100TB isn't enough for my Steam library by then.
Screw porn!! 100TB isn't enough for my Steam library by then.
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I'm not sure if I would be still interested in mechanical HDD's 10 years from now even for storage purposes because it's obvious that mechanical HDD's can keep up anymore or gain much more speed in the future paired with future (even current) lightning speed CPU's and everything else.
If SSD technology can't mature enough and becomes cheaper so that everyone can own affordable 5 to 10TB SSD in their HTPC/business/gaming rig 10 years from now then... then I don't know what to say.