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Every now and then, we just have to write a small bit on Tesla. Both hated and loved, you have to admit, Tesla is at the forefront of technology, which drives makes our hearts beat a notch faster.
The upcoming 2021 model X and S get a massive upgrade on the interior and receives a renewed infotainment system. And if you look at the photos, yeah, that's Witcher III. Let's talk interior first, as we have to take about the new steering wheel (well wheel). It no longer has traditional levers to indicate direction; the control options for these functions are incorporated in the steering wheel, in the form of touch buttons. There are buttons for indicating functions like direction, lights, horn, Autopilot, and windscreen wipers. But look at that pilot steering wheel design? Personally, I'm not too sure if I'd like such a fixed position.
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#5883344 Posted on: 02/01/2021 04:42 PM
There's a reason hardly anything has a 0-60/100 faster than 2.4 seconds: there's only so much you can do to improve grip. Obviously, a pure ICE can pull that off. That's not that hard to do. There are ICE engines that have the power to go much faster, if grip wasn't a problem. But there are 2 important things to consider:
1. It takes an absurd powerplant and machinery to achieve this goal, and although it weighs less than current battery technologies, the weight isn't very evenly distributed and increases the center of gravity. The complexity and heat means low reliability and more maintenance. Meanwhile, electric motors that weren't built for high speed are able to achieve similar numbers with none of the disadvantages. Imagine what would happen if a motor was actually built for speed.
2. Torque curves and transmissions. An ICE gradually builds up torque and after a certain point, it slowly starts to drop. A transmission is an absolute necessity in order to keep the revs in the proper range. Electric motors have peak torque at 1RPM and it gradually slows down as RPM increases. As a result, an ICE is inherently slower to accelerate from a stop, but can sustain acceleration at higher speeds. In order to compensate for the slow stop acceleration, you need to really beef up the engine. Most production EVs don't have a transmission, since each motor is usually directly connected to the wheels. As a result, there is nothing to help lower the RPM. The 911 was deliberately given enough power to compensate for the poor stop acceleration, and since it has a transmission, it is expected to win in a drag race.
So, the point I'm trying to drive home here is it takes a specially designed car to get these numbers. You sacrifice reliability, efficiency, and practicality just so you can have the fastest. Meanwhile, a luxury EV gets pretty damn close without even trying to be fast. Nearly every major performance brand knows the potential of an electric motor, and that's why so many of them are making the transition.
No I am comparing an ICE vehicle to an EV. Only a few years ago everyone (well the Tesla fanboys) said that ICE would never be able to pull the gap, it just wasn't possible. Look at what the Model S can do. Then Porsche turns up with what isn't even their top flight car, it doesn't have any fancy hybrid nonsense, it isn't pulling some outlandish sillyness with it's gearbox or engine setup or power delivery, it isn't even hugely powerful when compared to what some ICE vehicles can output, it's just a very well sorted ICE car and not only does it beat the Model S it beats it with it's latest and supposedly fastest software update.
There's a reason hardly anything has a 0-60/100 faster than 2.4 seconds: there's only so much you can do to improve grip. Obviously, a pure ICE can pull that off. That's not that hard to do. There are ICE engines that have the power to go much faster, if grip wasn't a problem. But there are 2 important things to consider:
1. It takes an absurd powerplant and machinery to achieve this goal, and although it weighs less than current battery technologies, the weight isn't very evenly distributed and increases the center of gravity. The complexity and heat means low reliability and more maintenance. Meanwhile, electric motors that weren't built for high speed are able to achieve similar numbers with none of the disadvantages. Imagine what would happen if a motor was actually built for speed.
2. Torque curves and transmissions. An ICE gradually builds up torque and after a certain point, it slowly starts to drop. A transmission is an absolute necessity in order to keep the revs in the proper range. Electric motors have peak torque at 1RPM and it gradually slows down as RPM increases. As a result, an ICE is inherently slower to accelerate from a stop, but can sustain acceleration at higher speeds. In order to compensate for the slow stop acceleration, you need to really beef up the engine. Most production EVs don't have a transmission, since each motor is usually directly connected to the wheels. As a result, there is nothing to help lower the RPM. The 911 was deliberately given enough power to compensate for the poor stop acceleration, and since it has a transmission, it is expected to win in a drag race.
So, the point I'm trying to drive home here is it takes a specially designed car to get these numbers. You sacrifice reliability, efficiency, and practicality just so you can have the fastest. Meanwhile, a luxury EV gets pretty damn close without even trying to be fast. Nearly every major performance brand knows the potential of an electric motor, and that's why so many of them are making the transition.
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#5883379 Posted on: 02/01/2021 07:04 PM
The other reason you don't 0..60 faster then 2.4 seconds is it's brutal and would be extremely dangerous on a public road.
The other reason you don't 0..60 faster then 2.4 seconds is it's brutal and would be extremely dangerous on a public road.
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No I am comparing an ICE vehicle to an EV. Only a few years ago everyone (well the Tesla fanboys) said that ICE would never be able to pull the gap, it just wasn't possible. Look at what the Model S can do. Then Porsche turns up with what isn't even their top flight car, it doesn't have any fancy hybrid nonsense, it isn't pulling some outlandish sillyness with it's gearbox or engine setup or power delivery, it isn't even hugely powerful when compared to what some ICE vehicles can output, it's just a very well sorted ICE car and not only does it beat the Model S it beats it with it's latest and supposedly fastest software update.
The Chiron will do 0 - 60 in 2.5 seconds. The question is is there an EV that can outgun it? What about to 100? What about to 200? What about 300? What about 400? EVs undoubtedly have the performance but there always seems to be a caveat attached to it and this isn't just at the high end this also applies to the bottom end as well. Is there an EV out there that can do a 300mile trip in 4 and a half hours but costs the price of a Dacia Duster or is the size of a VW Fox? (that's 300 miles at the UK national speed limit of 70mph with a bit of change to spare for stops and a refuel)
To be honest Vauxhall have been sticking 'Turbo' badges on their cars for years, even when their cars don't actually have Turbos. Audi have started doing some weird numbering system with their cars. I passed an Audi A1 2.5 on the motorway a few months ago and thought... hmmm the only cars that have 2.5l engines are the RS4 models, nope turns out it's a spec description. Looks like Auto makers are using traditional performance badging as nothing more than a way of naming trim and spec levels now.