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Hardware manufacturers removing game branding from AMD products?

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 03/20/2018 09:00 PM | source: | 42 comment(s)
Hardware manufacturers removing game branding from AMD products?

If you have been following the recent GPP discussion, you might have noticed some new chatter on the web about yesterday’s Gigabyte release, their new RX 580 Gaming Box was released just as that, the "Gigabyte RX 580 Gaming Box", while the other two Nvidia versions are listed under the Aorus branding.

That was noticed by a number of users throughout the web, and raised a flag or two, could it have anything to do with the GPP discussion from Nvidia? E.g. separating and segmentation of brands, as Nvidia would require exclusivity from partners that sign up for the program. Earlier reports indicated NVIDIA’s condition for allowing partners into the GPP was that they exclusively reserve their gaming brands for GeForce cards, or else they couldn’t participate. Some users now have noticed that small changes are taking effect. Now let me write this in shouty words, it is NOT CONFIRMED, but Gigabyte MIGHT be separating Radeon cards to the Gigabyte brand and moving Nvidia cards into their separate Aorus brand, again unconfirmed as their website still shows both as an option.

It was also rumored that ASUS STRIX cards would not be available for Radeon products, in the USA there indeed seems to be low stock, likely (and I assume this) resulting in the products indeed not listed. However here in the EU, I can see full availability for anything Radeon branded with ROG / STRIX, the ASUS website shows everything to be normal, so we cannot see any changes taking effect on the ASUS side at this moment. So again, I am not seeing anything alarming.

For MSI there is something noticeable, the Radeon Gaming X series graphics cards are no longer listed on the global and EU websites, the USA website, however, is listing all cards as normal. So that is the one oddity I have found.

All three brands show volume availability here in the EU under all brands, Gaming X, Aorus and ROG STRIX. There is one more observation, at this time I am not certain if the ‘re-branding’ actually is in effect or if it is a result of a lot of speculation, however website ComputerBase received a communication from Gigabyte Europe as to why the RX 580 Gaming box did not carry AORUS branding as one would expect.

 “The manufacturer states that the product is not gamer focused. This, however, is inconsistent with the product page, whose headings are ‘Turn Your Ultrabook to Gaming Platform’ and ‘Upgrade the Game Experience’.”

That reply is indeed a bit weird, a Radeon RX 580 is not considered to be a gaming product? We’ll follow this closely, but at this time we’ll need more facts and thus visually see noticeable branding changes to see if GPP partners are actually actively rebranding their products. The proof this far as mentioned on several forums and websites is just too thin. This could very simply be Gigabyte reorganizing, as they have been doing for many months now. I also do wonder, if this GPP discussion would not have surfaced on the web, would anyone even have noticed this? But small subtle changes like these do feed the speculation on the bigger social discussion platforms, often for valid reasons & reasoning.

 

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Quicks
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#5529882 Posted on: 03/20/2018 11:53 PM
I support both companies, and I must say AMD radeon have come a far way. This BS from Nvidia trying to play unfair just like Intel! Why? then you people that defend a company like that to the end? Why?

Competition is good, hope Intel start getting into discrete video cards as well the more the better!

The Nvidia fanboys will suffer in the end. (prices will only go up, and I will find another hobby)

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#5529887 Posted on: 03/21/2018 12:09 AM
Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte need to invest a certain amount of money to manufacture and sell custom AMD GPU video cards. They obviously want to make as much profit as they can after the investment. Thus they wouldn't hurt their own sales. Of course if Nvidia directly paid them billions not to sell AMD video cards at all, they might accept the deal, but obviously Nvidia would do no such thing. So, any demands from Nvidia must still be within economic reason, one way or another. Nvidia must be able to explain to these companies how these branding things make sense and profit. I find it ridiculous these multi-billion companies would simply accept demands that would hurt them. In fact seeing how successful Nvidia has been, both in making good GPUs and selling them, how could they suddenly be so stupid they would sabotage their own business partners for no reason?

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#5529900 Posted on: 03/21/2018 01:03 AM
By me they could sell VGAs totally bulk in an anti-static bag and no cooler at all or ram and vrm only, and sell em 200€ cheaper...

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#5529913 Posted on: 03/21/2018 02:08 AM
I don't see the problem since both Polaris and Vega was a major letdown.


Polaris offered same performance and more VRAM for less money -> better than mid NV cards (GTX 1060 3 and 6GB). Vega 56 beat 1070 (even in NV supported games, they performed the same), and NV decided to release 1070 Ti they never did before. Why? Because AMD made a card about 1,5 year later then the release of 1070 which beat it by 10% or so, and they just couldn't bear it.

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#5529916 Posted on: 03/21/2018 02:35 AM
I was reading about this last week, with nVidia laying claim to AIB's branding with black mail and bribing like further discounts on their chips and having priority on allocation of chips, if nVidia lay claim to MSI Gaming, ASUS ROG, Gigabyte Arorus etc, it's a brand the AIB partners have been building up for years and have poured millions into, and nVidia wants to claim it for themselves? It is a dick move and i can see down the line anti competitive practices much like Intel, with HP and Dell. Guess AMD will be getting another 1 billion dollar cash injection. I guess nVidia are shitting them selves when their market share decreased from 72.8% to 66.3% but yeah people are buying more AMD graphics cards.... but thats for mining and absolutely nothing to do with gaming.

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