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GrooveShark Shuts Down Services Completely (updated)
Updated content after the break - Big and bad news in streaming land, music streaming service GrooveShark possibly needs to pay 736 million UD dollars (680 million Euro) to the American music industry after a judge rules that the company has been sharing 5000 songs illegal, that would be $150,000 in damages per song with names like Eminem, Green Day and Madonna.
Reuters reports on this story today that U.S. District Judge Thomas Griesa, who will preside over the trial in federal court in Manhattan, said in a court order on Thursday that because of Grooveshark's actions he will tell jurors they can choose to award the statutory maximum of $150,000 in damages per song. Jurors also could decide to award less. But if the jury awards that amount, Grooveshark's parent company, Escape Media Group Inc, could be forced to pay more than $736 million.
As Reuters reports:
Last September, Griesa ruled that Escape and its founders, Samuel Tarantino and Joshua Greenberg, were liable for the illegal uploads of thousands of recordings by artists such as Madonna, Eminem, Bob Marley and Jay-Z.
Griesa said the defendants had directed their employees to make the uploads in spite of the legal risk. The only question to be resolved at Monday's trial is how much Escape must pay as in penalties for the infringement.
Nine record companies including Arista Music, Sony Music Entertainment, UMG Recordings, and Warner Bros Records, sued Escape for infringement in 2011.
Griesa found in September that Escape's business plan was to exploit the copyrighted content in order to grow Grooveshark and then "beg forgiveness" from the labels.
Escape hopes to limit its losses at trial by arguing there were mitigating circumstances to the infringement, according to court papers. In Thursday's order, Griesa said he will allow the company to present evidence of its attempts to secure licenses from the record labels.
Gainesville, Florida-based Grooveshark describes itself as "one of the largest on-demand music services on the Internet" with more than 30 million users sharing over 15 million files. The company says it has a policy to honor copyright holders' "takedown" requests that comply with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
In court papers, the plaintiffs have called Grooveshark a "linear descendant" of Grokster, LimeWire and Napster, all of which had been shut down because of copyright infringement.
A spokesman for Grooveshark said the company had no comment. Representatives for the record labels could not immediately be reached.
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Update: May 1st 2015
GrooveShark have now shut down their service. You can see their farewell message on the website http://grooveshark.com/
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#5059071 Posted on: 04/27/2015 06:54 PM
Common sense doesn't = the written law. If the law is written a certain way, the judges have a duty to uphold the law regardless of how stupid it is. Then if its found the law is no longer valid, there needs to be a push to fix the law.
It's a fight against windmills people, no real gain in arguing against them. As the court is held in the US (Manhattan.... wtf?), I don't even want to think about the neutrality of any judge for that matter. Quite a few times US courts have ruled contrary to common sense, so I won't lose any more sleep over it. What's making me lose my sleep is that this behavior will swap over the great pond soon enough...
Common sense doesn't = the written law. If the law is written a certain way, the judges have a duty to uphold the law regardless of how stupid it is. Then if its found the law is no longer valid, there needs to be a push to fix the law.
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#5059095 Posted on: 04/27/2015 07:35 PM
in USA they still think that everyone have a static IP in the world...
i let you imagine
lawyer and judge have more than 10 year of knowledge to get up to date (on other hand it is not their job).
What are you talking about..The ruling where the US said that an IP isn't good enough to trace a person? That one?
in USA they still think that everyone have a static IP in the world...
i let you imagine
lawyer and judge have more than 10 year of knowledge to get up to date (on other hand it is not their job).
What are you talking about..The ruling where the US said that an IP isn't good enough to trace a person? That one?
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#5059153 Posted on: 04/27/2015 09:06 PM
Exactly, they're not making much sense either, that's why I said it's swapping over.
Which again puts the laws to be not of common sense. Does that make it better, just because it's written down?
Like the EU courts have made sense on some of the same issues it's more an issue of the same legal arguments used over and over again then precedents are set.It is then easier for the next company to go for a cash grab.
Exactly, they're not making much sense either, that's why I said it's swapping over.
Common sense doesn't = the written law. If the law is written a certain way, the judges have a duty to uphold the law regardless of how stupid it is. Then if its found the law is no longer valid, there needs to be a push to fix the law.
Which again puts the laws to be not of common sense. Does that make it better, just because it's written down?
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#5059468 Posted on: 04/28/2015 08:28 AM
Remember in the 1980s and 1990s when people used to dub cassettes and movies for their family and friends and nobody gave two squirts of piss?! Hell, the ability to dub a CD or cassette was a selling feature for years with rental places often selling blank tapes alongside the latest releases!
I guess back in those days there were better people to hassle and sue.
Remember in the 1980s and 1990s when people used to dub cassettes and movies for their family and friends and nobody gave two squirts of piss?! Hell, the ability to dub a CD or cassette was a selling feature for years with rental places often selling blank tapes alongside the latest releases!
I guess back in those days there were better people to hassle and sue.
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Like the EU courts have made sense on some of the same issues it's more an issue of the same legal arguments used over and over again then precedents are set.It is then easier for the next company to go for a cash grab.