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Google To End Cooperation With Huawei, Intel Qualcomm and Microsoft join.
A bizarre turn of events is reported today in smartphone land. President Trump declared the national telecommunications emergency last week to protect the United States from foreign attacks, Google has now taken action and ends their relations with Huawei.
According to concurring reports from Reuters and The Verge , the company is ending its collaboration with Huawei. Android updates and Google services According to Google, the business relationships have been discontinued in almost all areas relevant to Huawei's smartphones. This is particularly heavy for the numerous Google services that come with an Android smartphone , especially the Play Store, the E-Mail service Gmail or the Chrome browser. Even the operating system itself is affected, but open source: Since the source code android is freely accessible and usable, Google can not prohibit the use of Huawei, but in the future no longer distribute updates.
Due to the measures, Huawei can no longer use Google apps and updates.
Google states that nothing changes for phones that are already in use.
Nonetheless, Reuters notes that users of Huawei smartphones already in operation have been marginally affected for the time being. Thus, the Play Store can be used at least for updates of installed apps, even configured services would continue for now. Only the next generation of Huawei smartphones should be entirely without Google services. Huawei himself has always rejected the accusations of espionage and sees their own rights violated.
Update: Huawei has given a short response below.
“Huawei has made substantial contributions to the development and growth of Android around the world. As one of Android's key global partners, we have worked closely with their open-source platform to develop an ecosystem that has benefited both users and the industry. Huawei will continue to provide security updates and after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally. We want to continue to build a safe and sustainable software ecosystem, in order to provide the best experience for all users globally. ”
In another short note, the news is now expanding as Google, Microsoft, Intel, and Qualcomm all are placing a ban on Huawei. The ban has huge consequences for Huawei. Intel supplies Xeon processors for servers in Huawei data centers, Qualcomm supplies modems for network equipment and smartphones. It remains unclear what all this means for Huawei's plans to build 5g networks worldwide.
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#5671141 Posted on: 05/20/2019 03:56 PM
A bunch of news stories and propoganda?
China is a rogue government that has zero respect for human rights or the rule of law and Huawei is an arm of that government.
It's interesting that so many people are more concerned with missing out on the latest smart phone than the well-being of people.
I think you can replace China and Huawei with other country and its major company and it will still be valid.
We just believe in what we want to believe. If you decide to believe in what news are telling you, its fine.
A bunch of news stories and propoganda?
China is a rogue government that has zero respect for human rights or the rule of law and Huawei is an arm of that government.
It's interesting that so many people are more concerned with missing out on the latest smart phone than the well-being of people.
I think you can replace China and Huawei with other country and its major company and it will still be valid.
We just believe in what we want to believe. If you decide to believe in what news are telling you, its fine.
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#5671142 Posted on: 05/20/2019 03:59 PM
Who cares? muahahah just watch the P20 ad starring my gf. It should make up for everything. heh heh It's from when she did "The Voice Of Italy" last year:
Who cares? muahahah just watch the P20 ad starring my gf. It should make up for everything. heh heh It's from when she did "The Voice Of Italy" last year:
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#5671143 Posted on: 05/20/2019 04:00 PM
So they cant use Android at all in coming devices? Then what? Its not like there are any real competitors to android that you can use. So will they just shut down business?
Honestly. Android is not an issue. They can use it. Main issue on software level will be google account.
Imagine all those applications which need some kind of sign up for consistency/cloud data backup.
There is still FB signup available and FB in contrast to google does not have chance to check your HW.
Now imagine that Huawei as big as it is does not go under, but creates separate eco system. One less big competitor in reasonably good phone category at reasonable price gone = higher prices in long run for google's eco system.
Who cares? muahahah just watch the P20 ad starring my gf. It should make up for everything. heh heh It's from when she did "The Voice Of Italy" last year:
Can you not do that? It is kind of inappropriate to claim such things. IIRC, you do it time to time. You may have thing for her, but that's about it.
So they cant use Android at all in coming devices? Then what? Its not like there are any real competitors to android that you can use. So will they just shut down business?
Honestly. Android is not an issue. They can use it. Main issue on software level will be google account.
Imagine all those applications which need some kind of sign up for consistency/cloud data backup.
There is still FB signup available and FB in contrast to google does not have chance to check your HW.
Now imagine that Huawei as big as it is does not go under, but creates separate eco system. One less big competitor in reasonably good phone category at reasonable price gone = higher prices in long run for google's eco system.
Who cares? muahahah just watch the P20 ad starring my gf. It should make up for everything. heh heh It's from when she did "The Voice Of Italy" last year:
Can you not do that? It is kind of inappropriate to claim such things. IIRC, you do it time to time. You may have thing for her, but that's about it.
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#5671151 Posted on: 05/20/2019 04:20 PM
All they do is steal everyone else's intellectual property and because they are the tech wing of China, Huawei thinks they are untouchable.
All they do is steal everyone else's intellectual property and because they are the tech wing of China, Huawei thinks they are untouchable.
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#5671153 Posted on: 05/20/2019 04:31 PM
And people laughed at me when I said Trump will be the worst President in recent history!
He is a complete and utter goon, a total tool of the highest calibre. He recently went passed the 10,000 mark for lies that were proven factually wrong.
Yet some people still lap him up. I actually don't think its all him though, I truly think he is just a mascot and the people behind the scenes are ones really pulling the strings in their favour in order to make them selves even richer, whilst the poor suffer, as usual.
And people laughed at me when I said Trump will be the worst President in recent history!
He is a complete and utter goon, a total tool of the highest calibre. He recently went passed the 10,000 mark for lies that were proven factually wrong.
Yet some people still lap him up. I actually don't think its all him though, I truly think he is just a mascot and the people behind the scenes are ones really pulling the strings in their favour in order to make them selves even richer, whilst the poor suffer, as usual.
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#5671155 Posted on: 05/20/2019 04:36 PM
And people laughed at me when I said Trump will be the worst President in recent history!
He is a complete and utter goon, a total tool of the highest calibre. He recently went passed the 10,000 mark for lies that were proven factually wrong.
Yet some people still lap him up. I actually don't think its all him though, I truly think he is just a mascot and the people behind the scenes are ones really pulling the strings in their favour in order to make them selves even richer, whilst the poor suffer, as usual.
On other hand. Did you keep same statistics for other presidents?
And people laughed at me when I said Trump will be the worst President in recent history!
He is a complete and utter goon, a total tool of the highest calibre. He recently went passed the 10,000 mark for lies that were proven factually wrong.
Yet some people still lap him up. I actually don't think its all him though, I truly think he is just a mascot and the people behind the scenes are ones really pulling the strings in their favour in order to make them selves even richer, whilst the poor suffer, as usual.
On other hand. Did you keep same statistics for other presidents?
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#5671159 Posted on: 05/20/2019 04:47 PM
I hope EU wont join that madness and will continue business with them as usually, despite of US threats to not share intelligence.
China will retaliate and this gonna be ugly for many of us. How much longer to next US elections?
EU joint USA for this but have chosen Huawei for the mobile 5G implementation... (stupidity of technocrats to add to: buying ultra expensive gaz from USA instead of Russia as before and in the same way an extra custom tax on car and motorcycle from USA).
I have read lot of mistake, it is not so dramatic:
-Huawei CAN use open source android version but it is not the latest one.
-Huawei CAN'T use the google app on it (maps, street, gmail, play, store...) neither FB (snapchat, instagram, FB) or twitter (because the origin of this situation is USA that doesn't want PRC to use USA product and put embargo)
-Actual Huawei products will still work until update is needed, also they will update the OS lot less often due to passing on the open source version.
-Huawei production that is for PRC, haven't got already all that stuff because PRC put an embargo on everything that contain google (take an article from USA about inteligence from PRC, exchange PRC and USA in the article and you have a bran new article about how google spy PRC...).
and chinese consumer doesn't have problem to found an app made by local dev that have the same fonction than google's one.
For those who know it is like when you made a custom build android that cannot go to google store... as easy as this.
It's more a loose/loose than a win/win (google seem unhappy too).
I hope EU wont join that madness and will continue business with them as usually, despite of US threats to not share intelligence.
China will retaliate and this gonna be ugly for many of us. How much longer to next US elections?
EU joint USA for this but have chosen Huawei for the mobile 5G implementation... (stupidity of technocrats to add to: buying ultra expensive gaz from USA instead of Russia as before and in the same way an extra custom tax on car and motorcycle from USA).
I have read lot of mistake, it is not so dramatic:
-Huawei CAN use open source android version but it is not the latest one.
-Huawei CAN'T use the google app on it (maps, street, gmail, play, store...) neither FB (snapchat, instagram, FB) or twitter (because the origin of this situation is USA that doesn't want PRC to use USA product and put embargo)
-Actual Huawei products will still work until update is needed, also they will update the OS lot less often due to passing on the open source version.
-Huawei production that is for PRC, haven't got already all that stuff because PRC put an embargo on everything that contain google (take an article from USA about inteligence from PRC, exchange PRC and USA in the article and you have a bran new article about how google spy PRC...).
and chinese consumer doesn't have problem to found an app made by local dev that have the same fonction than google's one.
For those who know it is like when you made a custom build android that cannot go to google store... as easy as this.
It's more a loose/loose than a win/win (google seem unhappy too).
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#5671160 Posted on: 05/20/2019 04:51 PM
Unbelievable ! It's a precedent, who will be next !!!
Unbelievable ! It's a precedent, who will be next !!!
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#5671165 Posted on: 05/20/2019 04:57 PM
HTC and Wiko are not concerned (taiwan and french's chinese brand), but Honor, Xioami, Oppo, Doro could be but for the moment they are not in the line of fire from USA.
(also they are not as big as Huawei).
Im at this very moment looking for a new Android phone (coming from a heavily overdue iPhone 6S) and the P30 Pro was on my potential list. Now I wonder if similar things could happen to OneNote or Xioami. Otherwise Samsung and Nokia seem to be my safe bets for now..
HTC and Wiko are not concerned (taiwan and french's chinese brand), but Honor, Xioami, Oppo, Doro could be but for the moment they are not in the line of fire from USA.
(also they are not as big as Huawei).
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#5671168 Posted on: 05/20/2019 05:03 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-military/us-warship-sails-in-disputed-south-china-sea-amid-trade-tensions-idUSKCN1SQ067
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-military/us-warship-sails-in-disputed-south-china-sea-amid-trade-tensions-idUSKCN1SQ067
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#5671170 Posted on: 05/20/2019 05:11 PM
I personally think this has a lot to do with competition ... most of the equipment is manufactured in China anyway, the Huawei gear does have microcode they wrote. Huawei is in Europe/Canada and they are selling servers and storage at hugely discounted rates to gain entry into the market. A lot of competitors don't like it... imagine your 500% + markup is suddenly being eroded.
I personally think this has a lot to do with competition ... most of the equipment is manufactured in China anyway, the Huawei gear does have microcode they wrote. Huawei is in Europe/Canada and they are selling servers and storage at hugely discounted rates to gain entry into the market. A lot of competitors don't like it... imagine your 500% + markup is suddenly being eroded.
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#5671178 Posted on: 05/20/2019 05:31 PM
Huawei is directly conected with Chinese government so no suprise that many European governments baned them already due to possible spying. Now US gov't joined the ban, no suprise here.
Huawei is directly conected with Chinese government so no suprise that many European governments baned them already due to possible spying. Now US gov't joined the ban, no suprise here.
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#5671189 Posted on: 05/20/2019 06:07 PM
Anyone remembers Xilinx. Well, check their stock and what were they cooking with Huawei.
Anyone remembers Xilinx. Well, check their stock and what were they cooking with Huawei.
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#5671196 Posted on: 05/20/2019 06:25 PM
Damn, it's down big-time. I'm guessing Xilinx had a lot of business with Huawei?
Anyone remembers Xilinx. Well, check their stock and what were they cooking with Huawei.
Damn, it's down big-time. I'm guessing Xilinx had a lot of business with Huawei?
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https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/20/intel-qualcomm-cut-off-supplies-to-huawei/
Seems Google is not the only one.
A bunch of news stories and propoganda?
You mean like China arresting 2 innocent Canadian citizens and condemning 2 others to death because we detained Huawei's CEO as part of an extradition agreement Canada
has with the US?
China is a rogue government that has zero respect for human rights or the rule of law and Huawei is an arm of that government.
It's interesting that so many people are more concerned with missing out on the latest smart phone than the well-being of people.
Good for Intel and Google for banning Huawei for what they represent.
Now, go ahead and ban me from the forum for expressing my opinion.
Not gonna ban you, but let's not turn this into a political argument. One and only warning you will get.