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Gigabyte RTX 2080 Ti Gaming Box - An external graphics card being liquid cooled
Gigabyte has announced an external video card, and not something simple. The Thunderbolt communicating Aorus RTX 2080 Ti Gaming Box is the first external video card that uses liquid cooling.
The unit has a relatively compact size at (173 x 149 x 300 mm, height x width x depth) that is made of black metal, accompanied by its own 450-watt power supply and a network card. The card inside is the WATERFORCE and a lot of RGB lighting of course.
The AORUS WATERFORCE all-in-one cooling system integrates a large copper plate, a 240mm aluminum radiator, and two 120mm fans. With an optimized pump and water block, it provides the most efficient water flow and cooling performance at a lower noise level. Powered by the GIGABYTE Geforce RTX 2080 Ti graphics card, AORUS RTX 2080 Ti Gaming Box transfers the Ultrabook laptop PC into a gaming platform and delivers incredible performance for real-time ray tracing and graphics-intensive games. A network chip that allows you to connect to a wired network is built into the Game Box. You don't have to worry about transmission interference during the game. Install AORUS engine and RGB fusion 2.0 to adjust the performance and RGB lighting according to your preference.
The price of Gigabyte's Aorus RTX 2080 Ti Gaming Box is not yet announced, we, however, do know that the video card used already costs around 1500 euros. Add another 300 for the box?
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#5726730 Posted on: 11/02/2019 03:42 PM
Might as well have put a Quadro in there. This thing is going to starve for bandwidth to be of anything that isn't using CUDA or OpenCL.
Might as well have put a Quadro in there. This thing is going to starve for bandwidth to be of anything that isn't using CUDA or OpenCL.
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#5726766 Posted on: 11/02/2019 05:02 PM
Yep, even a GTX1060 was edging towards bandwidth saturation on TB3. This is a massive waste of money.
Might as well have put a Quadro in there. This thing is going to starve for bandwidth to be of anything that isn't using CUDA or OpenCL.
Yep, even a GTX1060 was edging towards bandwidth saturation on TB3. This is a massive waste of money.
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#5726865 Posted on: 11/02/2019 11:56 PM
Youll be surprised actually
TB3 40gbps = 5000 MB/s
PCIe 3.0 x8 = 7880 MB/s
PCIe 3.0 x4 = 3940 MB/s
Based on this 2080TI Scaling guide
4K Resolution:
3.0 x16 = 100%
3.0 x8 = 98%
3.0 x4 = 94%
1440p Resolution:
3.0 x16 = 100%
3.0 x8 = 98%
3.0 x4 = 92%
Considering the above and the fact that TB3 is tad faster then PCIE 3.0 x4, you can game comfortably in 1440p and 4K with almost the same settings you can on Direct attached PC, some minor tweaking, some GPU overclocking and you wont feel the difference.
Gigabyte already has product page with spec and images.
P.S. Everyone can agree its better then nothing and based on scaling above not THAT bad actually, and for people that ACTUALLY need such device its godsend.
What we need is update to TB protocol that can use a pair of TB connections in unison to double the bandwidth, it will remove all the bottlenecks
Might as well have put a Quadro in there. This thing is going to starve for bandwidth to be of anything that isn't using CUDA or OpenCL.
Youll be surprised actually
TB3 40gbps = 5000 MB/s
PCIe 3.0 x8 = 7880 MB/s
PCIe 3.0 x4 = 3940 MB/s
Based on this 2080TI Scaling guide
4K Resolution:
3.0 x16 = 100%
3.0 x8 = 98%
3.0 x4 = 94%
1440p Resolution:
3.0 x16 = 100%
3.0 x8 = 98%
3.0 x4 = 92%
Considering the above and the fact that TB3 is tad faster then PCIE 3.0 x4, you can game comfortably in 1440p and 4K with almost the same settings you can on Direct attached PC, some minor tweaking, some GPU overclocking and you wont feel the difference.
Gigabyte already has product page with spec and images.
P.S. Everyone can agree its better then nothing and based on scaling above not THAT bad actually, and for people that ACTUALLY need such device its godsend.
What we need is update to TB protocol that can use a pair of TB connections in unison to double the bandwidth, it will remove all the bottlenecks
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#5726921 Posted on: 11/03/2019 06:35 AM
Youll be surprised actually
TB3 40gbps = 5000 MB/s
PCIe 3.0 x8 = 7880 MB/s
PCIe 3.0 x4 = 3940 MB/s
Based on this 2080TI Scaling guide
4K Resolution:
3.0 x16 = 100%
3.0 x8 = 98%
3.0 x4 = 94%
1440p Resolution:
3.0 x16 = 100%
3.0 x8 = 98%
3.0 x4 = 92%
Considering the above and the fact that TB3 is tad faster then PCIE 3.0 x4, you can game comfortably in 1440p and 4K with almost the same settings you can on Direct attached PC, some minor tweaking, some GPU overclocking and you wont feel the difference.
Gigabyte already has product page with spec and images.
P.S. Everyone can agree its better then nothing and based on scaling above not THAT bad actually, and for people that ACTUALLY need such device its godsend.
What we need is update to TB protocol that can use a pair of TB connections in unison to double the bandwidth, it will remove all the bottlenecks
All those numbers are great, but they don't match what actually happens with these boxes. Every review of them ever published has shown that putting anything faster than a GTX1060 in one results in a massive loss in performance, and the faster the card the worse it gets.
For one thing, TB3 is a super talky protocol, with overhead percentages in the double digits under the worst conditions. The more traffic, the worse it gets, and video cards generate a lot of traffic. If you plug in storage to the USB on the box and/or use the Ethernet port, it compounds the issue even more.
While it's true that a TB3 box is better than nothing, you are wasting a thousand bucks putting a 2080ti in one. Stick with a 1660 class, or a 2060 at the highest end.
Youll be surprised actually
TB3 40gbps = 5000 MB/s
PCIe 3.0 x8 = 7880 MB/s
PCIe 3.0 x4 = 3940 MB/s
Based on this 2080TI Scaling guide
4K Resolution:
3.0 x16 = 100%
3.0 x8 = 98%
3.0 x4 = 94%
1440p Resolution:
3.0 x16 = 100%
3.0 x8 = 98%
3.0 x4 = 92%
Considering the above and the fact that TB3 is tad faster then PCIE 3.0 x4, you can game comfortably in 1440p and 4K with almost the same settings you can on Direct attached PC, some minor tweaking, some GPU overclocking and you wont feel the difference.
Gigabyte already has product page with spec and images.
P.S. Everyone can agree its better then nothing and based on scaling above not THAT bad actually, and for people that ACTUALLY need such device its godsend.
What we need is update to TB protocol that can use a pair of TB connections in unison to double the bandwidth, it will remove all the bottlenecks
All those numbers are great, but they don't match what actually happens with these boxes. Every review of them ever published has shown that putting anything faster than a GTX1060 in one results in a massive loss in performance, and the faster the card the worse it gets.
For one thing, TB3 is a super talky protocol, with overhead percentages in the double digits under the worst conditions. The more traffic, the worse it gets, and video cards generate a lot of traffic. If you plug in storage to the USB on the box and/or use the Ethernet port, it compounds the issue even more.
While it's true that a TB3 box is better than nothing, you are wasting a thousand bucks putting a 2080ti in one. Stick with a 1660 class, or a 2060 at the highest end.
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#5726939 Posted on: 11/03/2019 10:06 AM
yep, same old similar boxes killing 1080GTX between 1060 and 1070 in the best cases
and price , be honest 1500e+ maybe 2k killing this box in begininig
still price be high and be close in some whole NTB with 2070
this external boxes maybe have future but not now and honestly not in +2 years too
TB behavior is more than USB like PCIe, means so many latencies added and its bad thing
resume
overpriced
specific used
lower performance than you excepted in half of scenarios, maybe more
yep, same old similar boxes killing 1080GTX between 1060 and 1070 in the best cases
and price , be honest 1500e+ maybe 2k killing this box in begininig
still price be high and be close in some whole NTB with 2070
this external boxes maybe have future but not now and honestly not in +2 years too
TB behavior is more than USB like PCIe, means so many latencies added and its bad thing
resume
overpriced
specific used
lower performance than you excepted in half of scenarios, maybe more
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#5727071 Posted on: 11/03/2019 07:57 PM
If you are gonna pay 2K wouldn't you just get a laptop with a 2080 already in?
If you are gonna pay 2K wouldn't you just get a laptop with a 2080 already in?
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#5727112 Posted on: 11/03/2019 10:42 PM
Most gaming laptops are huge, the whole point of such devices is to have think good laptop with fast modern CPU that has build in graphics which battery saving and enough for everything except gaming, come back from work or university, plug in your external GPU that connected to proper PC monitor or big TV, grab a gamepad or gaming keyboard and mouse and game
If you are gonna pay 2K wouldn't you just get a laptop with a 2080 already in?
Most gaming laptops are huge, the whole point of such devices is to have think good laptop with fast modern CPU that has build in graphics which battery saving and enough for everything except gaming, come back from work or university, plug in your external GPU that connected to proper PC monitor or big TV, grab a gamepad or gaming keyboard and mouse and game
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#5727126 Posted on: 11/03/2019 11:19 PM
So 200 buck laptop and have 1800 buck pc at home? Still don't see it.
Most gaming laptops are huge, the whole point of such devices is to have think good laptop with fast modern CPU that has build in graphics which battery saving and enough for everything except gaming, come back from work or university, plug in your external GPU that connected to proper PC monitor or big TV, grab a gamepad or gaming keyboard and mouse and game
So 200 buck laptop and have 1800 buck pc at home? Still don't see it.
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#5727387 Posted on: 11/04/2019 05:12 PM
An 8 core CPU goes for around 500usd.
Good laptop with good screen, 6/12 cpu or 8/16 CPU with data SATA SSD and NVMe for OS will be near 1K, maybe tad more tad less depending on the brand, size, parts,sale etc
So 200 buck laptop and have 1800 buck pc at home? Still don't see it.
An 8 core CPU goes for around 500usd.
Good laptop with good screen, 6/12 cpu or 8/16 CPU with data SATA SSD and NVMe for OS will be near 1K, maybe tad more tad less depending on the brand, size, parts,sale etc
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#5728165 Posted on: 11/05/2019 09:35 PM
I have an eGPU setup with a 1080Ti. So glad I replaced my main PC with it.
I have an eGPU setup with a 1080Ti. So glad I replaced my main PC with it.
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Pretty much the only point of the liquid cooler is being able to use an existing product. Otherwise an air cooler customised for the enclosure would be just as good with no need for the liquid and pump.