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German Editor Confirms Radeon RX 590 as 12nm Polaris 30
Well, that settled it. A Germany based colleague Andreas Schilling is rather confident he's not under any embargo, so he posted two photos on Twitter of packaging showing some specs and yes, the Radeon RX 590 naming.
By posting the two photos it is now confirmed that the Radeon RX 590 is a real thing, and you can read that it is a FinFET 12 aka 12nm fabricated product. The earlier leaked result has demonstrated the product (RX 590) to be clocked at ~1545 MHz clock. The suggested retail price would hover in the $299,- which is a good chunk more expensive than a RX 580 8GB at $229.
The respin GPU would be the 3rd iteration of Polaris, now noted as Polaris 30.
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#5601512 Posted on: 10/30/2018 09:40 AM
Unusual move unless it is a dual gpu for 300 Euro (massively hopeful I know) at this price point. Would be a good way to off load all those extra GPU's not sold since mining decline.
Unusual move unless it is a dual gpu for 300 Euro (massively hopeful I know) at this price point. Would be a good way to off load all those extra GPU's not sold since mining decline.
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#5601516 Posted on: 10/30/2018 09:45 AM
Is it made by GF or TSMC?
Lower clock speed then NV is the main Achilles heel for AMD, if they could boost to 2Ghz like NV then we could had a real competition.
Is it made by GF or TSMC?
Lower clock speed then NV is the main Achilles heel for AMD, if they could boost to 2Ghz like NV then we could had a real competition.
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#5601517 Posted on: 10/30/2018 09:48 AM
Man for the price premium they're adding over the 580 you would think they could at least use gddr5x and maybe add a few shaders to make it 2560 or something that would merit the price but it doesn't make sense in it's current state(as dat as rumours go)
Man for the price premium they're adding over the 580 you would think they could at least use gddr5x and maybe add a few shaders to make it 2560 or something that would merit the price but it doesn't make sense in it's current state(as dat as rumours go)
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#5601518 Posted on: 10/30/2018 09:50 AM
Whoever decided this is a good idea, needs to be fired right away. To tape an old GPU, using the same configuration is just pure nuts.
The only way I see this making sense is that somehow GF can use the same mask from 14nm process on the 12nm process, which I highly suspect is the case. This would mean that the RX590 is almost cost free for AMD since they didn't invest any extra effort on design/verification and any money on the mask for a new process. In this case, the higher frequency/better power consumption is worth the effort.
A new mask costs close to millions of dollars, so if you make the effort to do a new tapeout, it might as well be a better design, not a respined one.
Whoever decided this is a good idea, needs to be fired right away. To tape an old GPU, using the same configuration is just pure nuts.
The only way I see this making sense is that somehow GF can use the same mask from 14nm process on the 12nm process, which I highly suspect is the case. This would mean that the RX590 is almost cost free for AMD since they didn't invest any extra effort on design/verification and any money on the mask for a new process. In this case, the higher frequency/better power consumption is worth the effort.
A new mask costs close to millions of dollars, so if you make the effort to do a new tapeout, it might as well be a better design, not a respined one.
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The price increase doesn't add up to the performance increase. What is the intent, mining?
Meanwhile, the mining sector isn't where it used to be...