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GELID Offers SubZero M.2 XL - High-Performance Cooling Kit for M.2 SSDs
The SubZero M.2 XL is designed to cool down the M.2 Type 22110 SSD efficiently and prevents thermal throttling. It helps to improve performance, increase durability and enhance data integrity of the M.2 solid-state drives.
The SubZero M.2 XL uses the ultra-slim aluminium heatsink and the specially crafted thermal pads to deliver the best heat transfer and maintain significantly lowered operating temperatures for memory ICs and other electronic components of the M.2 Type SSD. Additionally, the set of 3 ultra-durable silicone ring fixtures is supplied with the SubZero M.2 XL to ensure safe mounting of the heatsink. The SubZero M.2 XL features quick installation and fits all standard M.2 Type 22110 SSD designed for laptops or desktops.
Thermal Throttling is a technique whereby the frequency of an IC can be automatically adjusted to reduce the amount of heat generated by the IC. Normally, the SSD electronic components operate within the standard temperature range at full speed. But in case of high workloads -running the apps such as computer games, audio visual processing or other data-intensive computing -an excessive heat can be generated by the SSD controller and memory ICs due to a high number of read/write operations and high data output. To cool down the SSD, an automatic duty cycle is applied, the effective SSD frequency becomes lower, and the operating temperature gradually comes into the normal range. For this cycle, performance of the SSD degrades until it runs cooler.
Some laptops may also have poor cooling inside the M.2 cabinet. In that case, a sequential activation of thermal throttling may occur, resulting in continuous underperformance of the M.2 SSD. The SubZero M.2 XL significantly improves cooling of the M.2 Type 22110 SSD. Therefore, operating temperature of the supported SSD becomes much lower. The SubZero M.2 XL helps to maintain temperature within the normal range under any workload and prevents thermal throttling from activation.
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#5736815 Posted on: 12/02/2019 09:16 AM
One can only smile when reads SubZero on a cooler package, anticipating some liquid nitrogen, only to find a good old aluminium heatsink.
One can only smile when reads SubZero on a cooler package, anticipating some liquid nitrogen, only to find a good old aluminium heatsink.
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#5736836 Posted on: 12/02/2019 10:48 AM
Using Samsung 950 PRO for 4 years now, and not a single time I noticed any need to cool it at all.
You can't possibly reach the point where nvme ssd starts to throttle due to temperature unless you're stressing it on purpose (heavy reads + writes at the same time) or isolate it from any air flow.
Even if thermal throttling is the case you can simply get a cheap small heatsink from nearest electronics store and glue it on with thermal adhesive.
Using Samsung 950 PRO for 4 years now, and not a single time I noticed any need to cool it at all.
You can't possibly reach the point where nvme ssd starts to throttle due to temperature unless you're stressing it on purpose (heavy reads + writes at the same time) or isolate it from any air flow.
Even if thermal throttling is the case you can simply get a cheap small heatsink from nearest electronics store and glue it on with thermal adhesive.
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#5736862 Posted on: 12/02/2019 12:04 PM
this looks like the aliexpress "copper" cooler I bought, there were cheaper aluminimum ones for like 2$
I have tested air cooling with a side window (before that dumb glass panel trend which I succumbed too) - aliexpress heatsink - asrock taichi ultimate motherboard cover/heatsink
and in surprisingly (or not) motherboard cover > air cooling > aftermarket heatsink (even with a fan blowing directly on it)
if your motherboard already has covers don't bother they should work better or as well as those aftermarket heatsinks
edit1 :
didn't read they marketed that for laptops, what ? how big is it ? not like there's space for a heatsink in a laptop ? and with no airflow where would the heat go ?
edit2 : my aliexpress one had a dual-sided tape thermal thing it held in place well fyi I had to use a heatgun to remove it
edit3 : wow ali even has an oled display heatsink O_O now that would be interesting for the people that want displays in their show PC, google : FBM2TZ-01
this looks like the aliexpress "copper" cooler I bought, there were cheaper aluminimum ones for like 2$
I have tested air cooling with a side window (before that dumb glass panel trend which I succumbed too) - aliexpress heatsink - asrock taichi ultimate motherboard cover/heatsink
and in surprisingly (or not) motherboard cover > air cooling > aftermarket heatsink (even with a fan blowing directly on it)
if your motherboard already has covers don't bother they should work better or as well as those aftermarket heatsinks
edit1 :
didn't read they marketed that for laptops, what ? how big is it ? not like there's space for a heatsink in a laptop ? and with no airflow where would the heat go ?
edit2 : my aliexpress one had a dual-sided tape thermal thing it held in place well fyi I had to use a heatgun to remove it
edit3 : wow ali even has an oled display heatsink O_O now that would be interesting for the people that want displays in their show PC, google : FBM2TZ-01
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#5736903 Posted on: 12/02/2019 02:41 PM
Using Samsung 950 PRO for 4 years now, and not a single time I noticed any need to cool it at all.
You can't possibly reach the point where nvme ssd starts to throttle due to temperature unless you're stressing it on purpose (heavy reads + writes at the same time) or isolate it from any air flow.
Even if thermal throttling is the case you can simply get a cheap small heatsink from nearest electronics store and glue it on with thermal adhesive.
The 970 Evo+ I have reached up to 89C during either benchmarks or if I gave it a job while gaming. Not on the NAND, but on the controller. Fixed it with one of these heatsinks.
Using Samsung 950 PRO for 4 years now, and not a single time I noticed any need to cool it at all.
You can't possibly reach the point where nvme ssd starts to throttle due to temperature unless you're stressing it on purpose (heavy reads + writes at the same time) or isolate it from any air flow.
Even if thermal throttling is the case you can simply get a cheap small heatsink from nearest electronics store and glue it on with thermal adhesive.
The 970 Evo+ I have reached up to 89C during either benchmarks or if I gave it a job while gaming. Not on the NAND, but on the controller. Fixed it with one of these heatsinks.
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#5736964 Posted on: 12/02/2019 06:04 PM
Hi there
Really depends on NVMe drives, case airflow and few other things
On Samsung NVMe I would say you want to have NVMe heatsink, I tested only two NVMe drives on my build Samsung and Sabrent Rocket NVMe and with Samsung NVMe idle temperatures have been in mid 20's and load in 40's that's with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, with cheaper heatsink from Akasa idle temperatures have been in 30's and load in 50's to 60's
With Sabrent Rocket NVMe temperatures are not issues, idle temperatures with Akasa heatsink I have seen in 28°C, load temperatures in 48°C as max, with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2 idle temperatures would drop to low 20's(seen 15°C as lowest ) and load in 30's to very low 40's
From build quality I would recommend Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, its bit more expensive than these cheaper NVMe heatsink
Hope this helps
Thanks, Jura
Since I don't have an M2 yet, do they need this? Or rather go straight for NVME / PCIe SSDs these days?
Hi there
Really depends on NVMe drives, case airflow and few other things
On Samsung NVMe I would say you want to have NVMe heatsink, I tested only two NVMe drives on my build Samsung and Sabrent Rocket NVMe and with Samsung NVMe idle temperatures have been in mid 20's and load in 40's that's with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, with cheaper heatsink from Akasa idle temperatures have been in 30's and load in 50's to 60's
With Sabrent Rocket NVMe temperatures are not issues, idle temperatures with Akasa heatsink I have seen in 28°C, load temperatures in 48°C as max, with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2 idle temperatures would drop to low 20's(seen 15°C as lowest ) and load in 30's to very low 40's
From build quality I would recommend Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, its bit more expensive than these cheaper NVMe heatsink
Hope this helps
Thanks, Jura
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#5737056 Posted on: 12/02/2019 11:06 PM
M2 is the format that NVMe ssd's are using, so if you get an NVMe ssd it will be M2. And no, you don't need heatsinks. You can get them if you want, but not necessary.
Since I don't have an M2 yet, do they need this? Or rather go straight for NVME / PCIe SSDs these days?
M2 is the format that NVMe ssd's are using, so if you get an NVMe ssd it will be M2. And no, you don't need heatsinks. You can get them if you want, but not necessary.
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#5737133 Posted on: 12/03/2019 07:28 AM
M2 is the format that NVMe ssd's are using, so if you get an NVMe ssd it will be M2. And no, you don't need heatsinks. You can get them if you want, but not necessary.
There you see how little I bothered to differentiate, I meant PCIe slot NVMe devices, as opposed to M2 devices sry.
Hi there
Really depends on NVMe drives, case airflow and few other things
On Samsung NVMe I would say you want to have NVMe heatsink, I tested only two NVMe drives on my build Samsung and Sabrent Rocket NVMe and with Samsung NVMe idle temperatures have been in mid 20's and load in 40's that's with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, with cheaper heatsink from Akasa idle temperatures have been in 30's and load in 50's to 60's
With Sabrent Rocket NVMe temperatures are not issues, idle temperatures with Akasa heatsink I have seen in 28°C, load temperatures in 48°C as max, with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2 idle temperatures would drop to low 20's(seen 15°C as lowest ) and load in 30's to very low 40's
From build quality I would recommend Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, its bit more expensive than these cheaper NVMe heatsink
Hope this helps
Thanks, Jura
Yeah I am in the process of getting to grab the information for my next year's build, as in checking out memory stuff for now. Not sure what's the big deal with SSDs getting so hot these days, I guess it comes from the high frequency of their BUS or high performance chips etc.
M2 is the format that NVMe ssd's are using, so if you get an NVMe ssd it will be M2. And no, you don't need heatsinks. You can get them if you want, but not necessary.
There you see how little I bothered to differentiate, I meant PCIe slot NVMe devices, as opposed to M2 devices sry.
Hi there
Really depends on NVMe drives, case airflow and few other things
On Samsung NVMe I would say you want to have NVMe heatsink, I tested only two NVMe drives on my build Samsung and Sabrent Rocket NVMe and with Samsung NVMe idle temperatures have been in mid 20's and load in 40's that's with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, with cheaper heatsink from Akasa idle temperatures have been in 30's and load in 50's to 60's
With Sabrent Rocket NVMe temperatures are not issues, idle temperatures with Akasa heatsink I have seen in 28°C, load temperatures in 48°C as max, with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2 idle temperatures would drop to low 20's(seen 15°C as lowest ) and load in 30's to very low 40's
From build quality I would recommend Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, its bit more expensive than these cheaper NVMe heatsink
Hope this helps
Thanks, Jura
Yeah I am in the process of getting to grab the information for my next year's build, as in checking out memory stuff for now. Not sure what's the big deal with SSDs getting so hot these days, I guess it comes from the high frequency of their BUS or high performance chips etc.
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#5737262 Posted on: 12/03/2019 02:41 PM
My Samsung 970 EVO plus Was idling in the mid 40s before I stuck a heat sink on it. brought it down 5 degrees. I also have an M2 stata drive that usually idles in the high 20s. My case has very good airflow and there is very little obstructing the airflow around the mother board.
My Samsung 970 EVO plus Was idling in the mid 40s before I stuck a heat sink on it. brought it down 5 degrees. I also have an M2 stata drive that usually idles in the high 20s. My case has very good airflow and there is very little obstructing the airflow around the mother board.
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#5737390 Posted on: 12/03/2019 09:46 PM
Do you need the bandwidth? M.2 drives are basically just PCIe x4 slots with a SATA port. You can always get something like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/M-2-NGFF-to-Computer-PCIe-x4-x8-x16-NVMe-SATA-Dual-SSD-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/123808491289
Cheap solution for someone like yourself, or, someone in need of more M.2 slots.
I for one would smile because it reminds me of MK:
Since I don't have an M2 yet, do they need this? Or rather go straight for NVME / PCIe SSDs these days?
Do you need the bandwidth? M.2 drives are basically just PCIe x4 slots with a SATA port. You can always get something like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/M-2-NGFF-to-Computer-PCIe-x4-x8-x16-NVMe-SATA-Dual-SSD-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/123808491289
Cheap solution for someone like yourself, or, someone in need of more M.2 slots.
One can only smile when reads SubZero on a cooler package, anticipating some liquid nitrogen, only to find a good old aluminium heatsink.
I for one would smile because it reminds me of MK:
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#5737508 Posted on: 12/04/2019 07:25 AM
Do you need the bandwidth? M.2 drives are basically just PCIe x4 slots with a SATA port. You can always get something like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/M-2-NGFF-to-Computer-PCIe-x4-x8-x16-NVMe-SATA-Dual-SSD-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/123808491289
Cheap solution for someone like yourself, or, someone in need of more M.2 slots.
Oh no actually I don't, hence I didn't really bother to read up on things until now. Would just get it for my next build next year, and because why not. But I really don't fancy having a (potentially) downclocking component for the giggles only.
And have a like for classic Sub Zero as well... still looks like back in the day on Sega Megadrive
Do you need the bandwidth? M.2 drives are basically just PCIe x4 slots with a SATA port. You can always get something like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/M-2-NGFF-to-Computer-PCIe-x4-x8-x16-NVMe-SATA-Dual-SSD-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/123808491289
Cheap solution for someone like yourself, or, someone in need of more M.2 slots.
Oh no actually I don't, hence I didn't really bother to read up on things until now. Would just get it for my next build next year, and because why not. But I really don't fancy having a (potentially) downclocking component for the giggles only.
And have a like for classic Sub Zero as well... still looks like back in the day on Sega Megadrive
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Since I don't have an M2 yet, do they need this? Or rather go straight for NVME / PCIe SSDs these days?