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GALAX To Release a Single-slot GeForce GTX 1070 - DDR4 Memory and M2 SSD
Hey this is interesting, some people really prefer single slot high-end cards over dual-slot ones, yet you have to face the fact they will be noisy as heck though. GALAX however is prepping a single slot wide cooled GeForce GTX 1070.
As Xfastest reports, GALAX at their yearly GEC/GOX 2016 event showed a number of new graphics cards. They mostly are intended for the ASIA market, but among them was the single-slot GeForce GTX 1070 graphics card. Now here's the thing, I am not sure this is a GTX 1070 ? XFastest captions it that way but it could very well be a 1070. Let's presume the latter one. The card looks great though in that slim single slot design. Some copper fins are visible so that should help with cooling. If we are ever going to see this card launched I do not know, but hey until then, you can look at the pretty pictures.
GALAX will also introduce some M2 SSD series based on a Phison PS5008 controller and what looks to be Toshiba FLASH NAND. Also they are showing a PCI-Express based SSD, but they have been showing this stuff for years now without any proper retail availability. GALAX is also to relase a Gamer line of DDR4 memory, pics included.
Updated with some added pconline photos.
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#5372735 Posted on: 12/19/2016 03:32 PM
GALAX To Release a Single-slot GeForce GTX 1070 - DDR4 Memory and M2 SSD
With such wording initially I got an impression that this 1070 will ship with DDR4 memory (apparently installen on card)... and an M2 SSD as well. Confusing
GALAX To Release a Single-slot GeForce GTX 1070 - DDR4 Memory and M2 SSD
With such wording initially I got an impression that this 1070 will ship with DDR4 memory (apparently installen on card)... and an M2 SSD as well. Confusing
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#5372741 Posted on: 12/19/2016 03:43 PM
I got the exact same impression.
I was thinking "OK, why would they put CPU-oriented RAM on a GPU. And how the hell were they able to fit an SSD on the card as well and still have it only take up a single slot?
Gotta admit, that would make an impressive gaming card, though. All they need to do is add a SoundBlaster and ethernet to it and its a whoel gaming machine.
I got the exact same impression.
I was thinking "OK, why would they put CPU-oriented RAM on a GPU. And how the hell were they able to fit an SSD on the card as well and still have it only take up a single slot?
Gotta admit, that would make an impressive gaming card, though. All they need to do is add a SoundBlaster and ethernet to it and its a whoel gaming machine.
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#5372742 Posted on: 12/19/2016 03:44 PM
I agree, I thought they are doing the same thing as AMD, releasing a card with an integrated SSD.
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Title should say:
"Galax releasing 3 new products: A single slot 1070, PCI-e m2 SSD and new DDR4 memory."
(or something similar)
With such wording initially I got an impression that this 1070 will ship with DDR4 memory (apparently installen on card)... and an M2 SSD as well. Confusing
I agree, I thought they are doing the same thing as AMD, releasing a card with an integrated SSD.
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Title should say:
"Galax releasing 3 new products: A single slot 1070, PCI-e m2 SSD and new DDR4 memory."
(or something similar)
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#5372751 Posted on: 12/19/2016 03:58 PM
No need for Soundblaster when you've got HDMI/DP audio. What it needs instead are input controls, and then you've got enough hardware for a gaming machine.
It's an interesting thought though - these days, GPUs are easily the most important part of gaming rigs. We're slowly reaching a point where just about everything the CPU does could (in theory) be replaced by the GPU and the game would still play just fine. I figure any time a process is performed less efficiently on the GPU would be completely overshadowed by the efficiency increase of doing everything on one chip.
Vulkan, DX12, and these on-board SSDs are a potential step forward in eliminating the need for CPUs in games. Perhaps one day GPUs will do 99% of the work, where the only purpose of the CPU is to handle basic peripherals, such as input devices, speakers, networking, the OS, and storage of game data. But otherwise, the CPU wouldn't do anything in-game. Kind of interesting to think about, since around 20 years ago, a GPU was nothing more than just an output device that slightly reduced CPU load.
Gotta admit, that would make an impressive gaming card, though. All they need to do is add a SoundBlaster and ethernet to it and its a whoel gaming machine.
No need for Soundblaster when you've got HDMI/DP audio. What it needs instead are input controls, and then you've got enough hardware for a gaming machine.
It's an interesting thought though - these days, GPUs are easily the most important part of gaming rigs. We're slowly reaching a point where just about everything the CPU does could (in theory) be replaced by the GPU and the game would still play just fine. I figure any time a process is performed less efficiently on the GPU would be completely overshadowed by the efficiency increase of doing everything on one chip.
Vulkan, DX12, and these on-board SSDs are a potential step forward in eliminating the need for CPUs in games. Perhaps one day GPUs will do 99% of the work, where the only purpose of the CPU is to handle basic peripherals, such as input devices, speakers, networking, the OS, and storage of game data. But otherwise, the CPU wouldn't do anything in-game. Kind of interesting to think about, since around 20 years ago, a GPU was nothing more than just an output device that slightly reduced CPU load.
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#5372797 Posted on: 12/19/2016 06:18 PM
Wow, 1070 performance in a single slot with normal height (from PCIe to top of the card)? Impressive. Would have expected that from AMD's vendors tbh.
Wow, 1070 performance in a single slot with normal height (from PCIe to top of the card)? Impressive. Would have expected that from AMD's vendors tbh.
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#5372814 Posted on: 12/19/2016 07:08 PM
I haven't seen a single slot card like this since my 8800gt!
I haven't seen a single slot card like this since my 8800gt!
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#5372843 Posted on: 12/19/2016 08:22 PM
I think some in 10 years we won't have dedicated video cards. With HBM and integrated video and other controllers GPU turns to be a fully integrated SoC. So instead we will have an additional GPU socket on motherboards and GPU power connectors. Modern games will be scaled through integrated GPU, while ancient, by then, DX11- games will work with integrated GPU only. By then integrated GPUs could reach 5-7 TFLOPS which would be enough to play ancient games on 1080p or 2160p.
Seems like single-slot GPUs are making a comeback. About time...
I think some in 10 years we won't have dedicated video cards. With HBM and integrated video and other controllers GPU turns to be a fully integrated SoC. So instead we will have an additional GPU socket on motherboards and GPU power connectors. Modern games will be scaled through integrated GPU, while ancient, by then, DX11- games will work with integrated GPU only. By then integrated GPUs could reach 5-7 TFLOPS which would be enough to play ancient games on 1080p or 2160p.
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#5372857 Posted on: 12/19/2016 09:01 PM
No need for Soundblaster when you've got HDMI/DP audio. What it needs instead are input controls, and then you've got enough hardware for a gaming machine.
It's an interesting thought though - these days, GPUs are easily the most important part of gaming rigs. We're slowly reaching a point where just about everything the CPU does could (in theory) be replaced by the GPU and the game would still play just fine. I figure any time a process is performed less efficiently on the GPU would be completely overshadowed by the efficiency increase of doing everything on one chip.
Vulkan, DX12, and these on-board SSDs are a potential step forward in eliminating the need for CPUs in games. Perhaps one day GPUs will do 99% of the work, where the only purpose of the CPU is to handle basic peripherals, such as input devices, speakers, networking, the OS, and storage of game data. But otherwise, the CPU wouldn't do anything in-game. Kind of interesting to think about, since around 20 years ago, a GPU was nothing more than just an output device that slightly reduced CPU load.
Completely agreed with your opinion that in the future the GPU will do almost all the processing that CPU does today.
I think that one day the CPU and the GPU will be one powerful synthesis of two parts with great processing power.
By the time the GPU will be even more important than the CPU is, the SoC are the proof for this.
No need for Soundblaster when you've got HDMI/DP audio. What it needs instead are input controls, and then you've got enough hardware for a gaming machine.
It's an interesting thought though - these days, GPUs are easily the most important part of gaming rigs. We're slowly reaching a point where just about everything the CPU does could (in theory) be replaced by the GPU and the game would still play just fine. I figure any time a process is performed less efficiently on the GPU would be completely overshadowed by the efficiency increase of doing everything on one chip.
Vulkan, DX12, and these on-board SSDs are a potential step forward in eliminating the need for CPUs in games. Perhaps one day GPUs will do 99% of the work, where the only purpose of the CPU is to handle basic peripherals, such as input devices, speakers, networking, the OS, and storage of game data. But otherwise, the CPU wouldn't do anything in-game. Kind of interesting to think about, since around 20 years ago, a GPU was nothing more than just an output device that slightly reduced CPU load.
Completely agreed with your opinion that in the future the GPU will do almost all the processing that CPU does today.
I think that one day the CPU and the GPU will be one powerful synthesis of two parts with great processing power.
By the time the GPU will be even more important than the CPU is, the SoC are the proof for this.
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#5372859 Posted on: 12/19/2016 09:07 PM
I totally skipped straight to the picture to see where the M2 slot would be located... LOL Title is almost click bait.
Though 1070 single slot is going to be nice!
I totally skipped straight to the picture to see where the M2 slot would be located... LOL Title is almost click bait.
Though 1070 single slot is going to be nice!
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#5372868 Posted on: 12/19/2016 09:39 PM
Is possible put a M.2 SSD slot on a Graphics Card with a PCIE HUB then the M.2 controller could have one or two DDR4 chips for caché lol
Is possible put a M.2 SSD slot on a Graphics Card with a PCIE HUB then the M.2 controller could have one or two DDR4 chips for caché lol
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#5372871 Posted on: 12/19/2016 09:45 PM
Actually, you are only partially correct.
While the first video output devices for PC's were called "Graphics Adapters" (Color G.A., up to Video G.A. or Super Video G.A.) were not doing ANY processing at all, the first PC card with Fixed-Function 2D processing was ... an amazingly 27 years ago !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S3-Graphics
S3 911, first ever accelerator, was capable of drawing lines and fill surfaces onto the video memory without using the CPU. Which was AWESOME. Made Windows 3.11 feel smooth
3D capabilities came a bit later, cca. 1995 and they were definitely doing a lot of calculations on their own (geometry and texture fill). Definitely MUCH more than a "video output device" Real 3D games like Descent 2 or MechWarrior looked amazing for that time.
since around 20 years ago, a GPU was nothing more than just an output device that slightly reduced CPU load.
Actually, you are only partially correct.
While the first video output devices for PC's were called "Graphics Adapters" (Color G.A., up to Video G.A. or Super Video G.A.) were not doing ANY processing at all, the first PC card with Fixed-Function 2D processing was ... an amazingly 27 years ago !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S3-Graphics
S3 911, first ever accelerator, was capable of drawing lines and fill surfaces onto the video memory without using the CPU. Which was AWESOME. Made Windows 3.11 feel smooth
3D capabilities came a bit later, cca. 1995 and they were definitely doing a lot of calculations on their own (geometry and texture fill). Definitely MUCH more than a "video output device"
Real 3D games like Descent 2 or MechWarrior looked amazing for that time.
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#5372886 Posted on: 12/19/2016 10:54 PM
One thing bothers me - placing NAND right next to GPU will make it very hot. Isn't TLC NAND is vulnerable to high temperatures?
One thing bothers me - placing NAND right next to GPU will make it very hot. Isn't TLC NAND is vulnerable to high temperatures?
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#5372894 Posted on: 12/19/2016 11:17 PM
At first I was like "meh..." until I saw picture 7 through 9; Wow!! Colour me impressed!!
At first I was like "meh..." until I saw picture 7 through 9; Wow!! Colour me impressed!!
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#5372895 Posted on: 12/19/2016 11:23 PM
they should make a gtx1050 too, would be perfect physx card
they should make a gtx1050 too, would be perfect physx card
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Seems like single-slot GPUs are making a comeback. About time...