G.SKILL Releases New DDR4 Specifications for Intel Coffee Lake Platform

#5479318 Posted on: 10/07/2017 06:14 AM

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That is so dumb it hurts.

You could use that same ridiculous logic to say that in some games overclocking a cpu from 4ghz to 4.8ghz only gives you 1 more frame, does that mean overclocking is pointless because in that game the benefit is small? When in another game you might gain 20 frames from that overclock, or boost the min frames over 60?

Well I guess if anything over 4ghz is pointless then if we are using that logic, and if anything over 4ghz is pointless then unlocked processors are pointless, and motherboards that cost more because of better overclocking and coolingn those are pointless as well.

Then everyone can run an i5, a gtx 1070 and 3000mhz ram because it's 'enough for most people'

Like I said, what is this, a second hand pc build website or Guru3D?

Oh and nvme hard drives are pointless because in some situations they don't perform better than a sata ssd.

Oh and more than 2 case fans is pointless because there is diminishing returns, high refresh rate monitors are pointless ( especially if you are running the plain jane ram you endorse ).

Yep. No one should buy faster goods that cost proportionally more. That's why everyone on earth drives a 4 cylinder hatch back....and has only one child, and so on and so forth.

Faster ram is not pointless, my becnhmarks show it, overclocked cpus are not pointless, even though sometimes there is no performnace gain in some benches.

It is all situational, depending on your usage an ssd might not be much faster than a mechanial drives if you are opening small files already cached on the drive buffer, that doesn't make ssds pointlesd though.

Also some games and programs there is no performance gain going from an i5 to an i7....I gues that makes 'everything over an i5 pointless )

Lol at the 'dream machine' they used slower ram because 128gb of ram costs a lot of money, not because 64gb of 3600mhz wouldn't be faster and more beneficial, but because idiot fanboys see the '128' and get aroused.

If you don't think that 64 or 32 gig or 3600, 4000, or 4600mhz ram in that pc wouldn't make it faster you are objectively wrong.

Pointing the scenarios where ram speed doesn't boost performance in a specific instance doesn't mean that faster ram doesn't improve performance elsewheren just like my benchmarks showed, and the same with an overclocked cpu and a faster ssd. It all adds up.

This ram is marketed at 8700k owners, not for budget minded cynical peasants trying to justify their ageing hardware.

LOL so your comparing cpu overclock and car engines, this convo is over. Such a waste of time.

#5479324 Posted on: 10/07/2017 06:40 AM

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If you can't see the comaprison then you are thick, not my fault.

'You don't see any gain as ram speed goes up in these specific circumstances'

'Most people only drive 60kph 99% of the time so anything over 4 cyilders is a waste'

'In everday usage you don't get the main benefit of an ssds high reads and write speeds, so an ssd is a waste for most people'

'If you are gaming at 1080p then anything over a 1070 is a waste at 60hz most of the time'

It's all about your complaining about premium products where you pay more for more performance above the average usage scenario and requirements.

You keep arguing from a budget perspective, which is exactly what a 4 cylinder car is, yet so many people have more because they WANT more and see the benefit as a result of their geater need.

Don't pretend there is no benefit just because you can't justify it. I owned a 780 like you and have upgraded 3 times since then, obviously you won't justify the money if you are happy with a 4 year old gpu, and obviously someone who is buying an 8700k...the newest and best cpu money can buy, will be more likely to justify the money for the fastest ram and is not a bargain hunter for whatever is 'just enough'

I guess everyone who has 3600/4000mhz ram should downgrade to 3200mhz because that 'dream pc 2017' said it has the bestest ram there is, I'm sure they will realise the error of their ways in not buying slower ram in excessive volumes they will never use.

#5479338 Posted on: 10/07/2017 08:21 AM

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If you can't see the comaprison then you are thick, not my fault.

'You don't see any gain as ram speed goes up in these specific circumstances'

'Most people only drive 60kph 99% of the time so anything over 4 cyilders is a waste'

'In everday usage you don't get the main benefit of an ssds high reads and write speeds, so an ssd is a waste for most people'

'If you are gaming at 1080p then anything over a 1070 is a waste at 60hz most of the time'

It's all about your complaining about premium products where you pay more for more performance above the average usage scenario and requirements.

You keep arguing from a budget perspective, which is exactly what a 4 cylinder car is, yet so many people have more because they WANT more and see the benefit as a result of their geater need.

Don't pretend there is no benefit just because you can't justify it. I owned a 780 like you and have upgraded 3 times since then, obviously you won't justify the money if you are happy with a 4 year old gpu, and obviously someone who is buying an 8700k...the newest and best cpu money can buy, will be more likely to justify the money for the fastest ram and is not a bargain hunter for whatever is 'just enough'

I guess everyone who has 3600/4000mhz ram should downgrade to 3200mhz because that 'dream pc 2017' said it has the bestest ram there is, I'm sure they will realise the error of their ways in not buying slower ram in excessive volumes they will never use.


You win, your right. I'm wrong. Hope you sleep better tonight now.

Edit: people are already having problems with xmp going above 3200.

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/74ue81/8700k-xmp-problems/

#5479690 Posted on: 10/08/2017 11:24 PM

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I would pay for faster ramm if it improved performance from any aspect not just at gaming fps,I did enjoy reading your guys little argument about paying more for 4000mhz ddr4 some funny stuff really.

If I am already spending 350+ on the cpu, another 300 on the board why not get the best ram your machine can run as well? You dont buy a custom made suit and wear your old Nike shoes do you? No you get yourself the best shoes to match your suit I hope? Lol.

Enough bashing on the 4 cylinder motors there is 2.0l motors now putting out 100hp per liter, thats amazing actually power to weight ratio, what do you want?