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Four Core Core i7-1165G7 Tiger Lake Beats Eigth core Ryzen 7 4700U Renoir in Geekbench
You can say a lot of things about Geekbench, the first, for whatever reason everything leaks there. The second, the number never are rather trustworthy. Ergo, therefore, this news item should be taken with some disclaimers.
Both Intel and AMD have a few products in the works and one of each surfaced on geekbench, Intel's Core i7-1165G7 4-core / 8-thread (Willow Cove) processor based on the 10 nm "Tiger Lake-U" pulls ahead of the Ryzen 7 4700U (Renoir) processor, which has eight cores. The Geekbench comparison shows two Lenovo laptops, one with the i7-1165G7, the other a 4700U. The difference in favor for Intel is almost 37% in single-threaded performance while being 0.5% faster in multi-threaded performance (again, 4 versus 8 cores).
It paints a weird picture, also with the Ryzen 7 4800U the 8-core/16-thread chip ends up 22.3% faster than the Core i7-1165G7 in the multi-threaded (Hyperthreading).
Thanks SOTN for the news subkmit.
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#5806436 Posted on: 07/07/2020 11:32 AM
A unreleased CPU using a new node beats an already released one by 30% on single-thread? That is good, but not super surprising.
We have come to expect rehashes of CPUs for what, almost 5 years now? I'd say that's the least they should be doing, and about time.
Meanwhile, AMD is also cooking Zen 3, which will probably be released before tiger lake and probably offer more cores, while supposedly having 15% better IPC than current Zen 2.
So yeah, time will tell if these numbers are even good.
They are as good as:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/15604276?baseline=15459741
Now, why does this Same laptop showing this intel's CPU has that low score you may ask.
Well, because this performance is actually baseline for given model.
And since it is ultrabook, OCing CPU is very unreasonable due to cooling limitations. It is not sustainable performance increase ans can be seen in all results where multi threaded performance does not go UP with this OC.
Likely tested in freezer too, which was not enough to sustain increased clock once all cores went under load.
Only respectable benchmark result comes from preheated scenario which simulates sustainable performance.
A unreleased CPU using a new node beats an already released one by 30% on single-thread? That is good, but not super surprising.
We have come to expect rehashes of CPUs for what, almost 5 years now? I'd say that's the least they should be doing, and about time.
Meanwhile, AMD is also cooking Zen 3, which will probably be released before tiger lake and probably offer more cores, while supposedly having 15% better IPC than current Zen 2.
So yeah, time will tell if these numbers are even good.
They are as good as:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/15604276?baseline=15459741
Now, why does this Same laptop showing this intel's CPU has that low score you may ask.
Well, because this performance is actually baseline for given model.
And since it is ultrabook, OCing CPU is very unreasonable due to cooling limitations. It is not sustainable performance increase ans can be seen in all results where multi threaded performance does not go UP with this OC.
Likely tested in freezer too, which was not enough to sustain increased clock once all cores went under load.
Only respectable benchmark result comes from preheated scenario which simulates sustainable performance.
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People who even know what Geekbench is probably know to wait for 3rd party reviews when the models are actually out to see real world performance.
People like my aunt will buy a new laptop every 4 years because her desktop is full of crap and her browser is full of crap.
So... not sure where this is going.