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For Intel 10nm will be a less productive node than 14nm and 22nm
Intel has shared some info about 10nm, stating that 10nm as a fabrication node is less productive compared to 14 and 22nm. Not exactly a surprise of course considering how long Intel has been having issues with 10nm. At one point everybody even figured they would skip 10nm together.
Intel, however, hopes and expects to retain their leading position with other nodes like 7nm and is mentioning 'leadership' at 5nm.
Intel's chief financial officer George Davis acknowledges that 10nm "won't be the best node Intel has ever had." "It's going to be less productive than 14nm and then 22nm, but we're excited about the improvements we're seeing and we expect to start the 7nm period with a much better performance outlook at the end of 2021." TSMC has already mentioned it is scaling up towards 5nm production and even expects mass production of 3nm late 2022.
On Monday Intel reported to open up its decommissioned Costa Rico factory again to increase 14nm production. Intel's pending Comet Lake processor series for desktops also is based on a refined 14nm fabrication process.
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#5766326 Posted on: 03/05/2020 06:31 PM
D'uh.
D'uh.
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#5766370 Posted on: 03/05/2020 09:24 PM
Poor thing...
Poor thing...
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#5766460 Posted on: 03/06/2020 04:21 AM
intels scrapped plans for high performance 10nm on desktop and are aiming for 7nm+
intels scrapped plans for high performance 10nm on desktop and are aiming for 7nm+
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#5766486 Posted on: 03/06/2020 08:08 AM
Less productive really means they will have 7nm ramped up not much after they are finally are able to fix 10nm for desktop and server chips aka 10nm+.
10nm+ is what they are currently on. Desktop parts won't come till at least 10nm++ if that. 10nm without the + was the Core i3 8121u.....which nothing to talk about other then how poorly it performed compared to their own 14nm counterparts.
Less productive really means they will have 7nm ramped up not much after they are finally are able to fix 10nm for desktop and server chips aka 10nm+.
10nm+ is what they are currently on. Desktop parts won't come till at least 10nm++ if that. 10nm without the + was the Core i3 8121u.....which nothing to talk about other then how poorly it performed compared to their own 14nm counterparts.
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Less productive = Higher costs
It will be interesting to see he retail price when they drop compared to previous gen
If the performance increase is minimal i can see alot of people skipping this gen
I think in this case "less productive" means they will not produce very much on it. It would seem from other statements that they are going to skip 10nm and move on to 7nm with most chips. Possibly like what AMD is doing : they use 7nm for the processor chips and 10nm for the interface chips in their MCMs.