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Details and information on the 8th gen processors from Intel are wide-spread already. However, we can add some new data as a Core i7 8650U processor has been spotted in the GFXBench database.
The Core i7 8650U is based on kaby lake architecture, thus not Cannon Lake. The u series is mobile and Core i7 8650U will be fabbed at 14nm FiNFET. According to Intel these processors should ne up-to 15% faster and more power efficient.
If you look at the benchmark report the Core i7 8650U is clocking in at 1.90 GHz, which undoubtedly will clock higher with some sort of Turbo. Intel earlier on indicated that these models would be able to do up-to 4.0 GHz Turbos. The Integrated Graphics is listed as HD Graphics 620.
The Kaby Lake refresh will be will be fabbed at an improved 14nm ++ procedure and should hit the market in the second half of 2017. Before that we should still see a Skylake-X and Coffee Lake processors launch.
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#5428832 Posted on: 05/06/2017 01:06 PM
I dont know should i be amaze or sad.Its 3rd Gen cpu (From 6k to 8k) with in a year.I got 6700k 7-8 months ago.Indeed technology changes a lot.
I dont know should i be amaze or sad.Its 3rd Gen cpu (From 6k to 8k) with in a year.I got 6700k 7-8 months ago.Indeed technology changes a lot.
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#5428836 Posted on: 05/06/2017 01:23 PM
This is a mobile cpu not desktop. The cannonlake is 10nm and is going to be released 2nd h of 2017. Intel claims it will be 15% more powerful than the 7th generation.
This is a mobile cpu not desktop. The cannonlake is 10nm and is going to be released 2nd h of 2017. Intel claims it will be 15% more powerful than the 7th generation.
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#5428857 Posted on: 05/06/2017 02:58 PM
They claim that every time, while making the "successor" CPU 14% faster Mhz.
This is a mobile cpu not desktop. The cannonlake is 10nm and is going to be released 2nd h of 2017. Intel claims it will be 15% more powerful than the 7th generation.
They claim that every time, while making the "successor" CPU 14% faster Mhz.
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#5428858 Posted on: 05/06/2017 03:01 PM
I'm waiting for Cannonlake, if it's just 15% better than 7th gen with 8 cores, i'll probably just buy a Ryzen 7 since they will go down on price by then and i bet Intel will overprice their CPUs like always. <_<
I'm waiting for Cannonlake, if it's just 15% better than 7th gen with 8 cores, i'll probably just buy a Ryzen 7 since they will go down on price by then and i bet Intel will overprice their CPUs like always. <_<
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#5428863 Posted on: 05/06/2017 03:27 PM
Kaby was more like 5% faster than Skylake.
They claim that every time, while making the "successor" CPU 14% faster Mhz.
Kaby was more like 5% faster than Skylake.
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#5428872 Posted on: 05/06/2017 04:19 PM
I agree; confusing. There won't be a Kaby Lake refresh in the sense the article states it. The 8 series is Coffee Lake, so the chip shown is exactly that. Hope that helps.
Isn't the Coffee Lakes the Kaby Lake refresh? By reading the last sentences seems there will be 3 CPU lines with Kaby Lake refresh being something different than Coffee Lake all launching this year. I'm confused.
I agree; confusing. There won't be a Kaby Lake refresh in the sense the article states it. The 8 series is Coffee Lake, so the chip shown is exactly that. Hope that helps.
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#5428873 Posted on: 05/06/2017 04:25 PM
Not for the same TDP, which is entirely what Kabylake's process improvement was focused on. Look at the new Kabylake Core-Ms - they clock to 3.6ghz with a 4.5w TDP. The previous generation m7-6Y75 only went to 3.1 at the same TDP.
The process may not make that much of a difference on 90w processors but at 5-15w it's a pretty significant improvement.
Clock for clock, Kaby Lake is 0% faster than Skylake.
Not for the same TDP, which is entirely what Kabylake's process improvement was focused on. Look at the new Kabylake Core-Ms - they clock to 3.6ghz with a 4.5w TDP. The previous generation m7-6Y75 only went to 3.1 at the same TDP.
The process may not make that much of a difference on 90w processors but at 5-15w it's a pretty significant improvement.
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#5428874 Posted on: 05/06/2017 04:35 PM
Personally I am waiting for a 6C/12T Coffee Lake i7 with 7700K speeds but will only purchase it depending on these three equally important factors: specifications, price, compatibility with Z170. If one or more of these factors are not my liking I won't bother at all or keep an eye on Skylake-X (if affordable for once)... Although I heard Coffee Lake-X is where it's at :p kidding
I'm waiting for Cannonlake, if it's just 15% better than 7th gen with 8 cores, i'll probably just buy a Ryzen 7 since they will go down on price by then and i bet Intel will overprice their CPUs like always. <_<
Personally I am waiting for a 6C/12T Coffee Lake i7 with 7700K speeds but will only purchase it depending on these three equally important factors: specifications, price, compatibility with Z170. If one or more of these factors are not my liking I won't bother at all or keep an eye on Skylake-X (if affordable for once)... Although I heard Coffee Lake-X is where it's at :p kidding
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#5428931 Posted on: 05/06/2017 10:01 PM
Kaby was more like 5% faster than Skylake.
Clock for clock, Kaby Lake is 0% faster than Skylake.
This is my point.
Not saying kaby lake was 0% faster clock for clock, but every single time Intel has made claims (in the last few years) of a new family being faster, they base "faster" on it being clocked higher, rather then really any real performance increase clock for clock.
I mean, i get it, if you could last year get a processor for $300 at 3.4Ghz, and they claim that this year you can get a processor at $300 that is 15% faster, and the only thing that has changed is the newly released processor is now 3.9Ghz, that's not a "wrong" statement. I'm just getting tired of them continually claiming faster architectures when in reality its faster clocks that 99% of the time was capable on the previous architecture no problem.
Not for the same TDP, which is entirely what Kabylake's process improvement was focused on. Look at the new Kabylake Core-Ms - they clock to 3.6ghz with a 4.5w TDP. The previous generation m7-6Y75 only went to 3.1 at the same TDP.
The process may not make that much of a difference on 90w processors but at 5-15w it's a pretty significant improvement.
Which is important, i agree, but that doesn't make a processor faster like Intel continually claims, that makes it more efficient. Again, which is great, especially for portable devices, but doesn't mean it's faster.
You don't state a car that goes 50mpg with the 200 horsepower is 15% faster then a car that goes 44mpg with the same 200 horsepower, it's just more efficient.
Kaby was more like 5% faster than Skylake.
Clock for clock, Kaby Lake is 0% faster than Skylake.
This is my point.
Not saying kaby lake was 0% faster clock for clock, but every single time Intel has made claims (in the last few years) of a new family being faster, they base "faster" on it being clocked higher, rather then really any real performance increase clock for clock.
I mean, i get it, if you could last year get a processor for $300 at 3.4Ghz, and they claim that this year you can get a processor at $300 that is 15% faster, and the only thing that has changed is the newly released processor is now 3.9Ghz, that's not a "wrong" statement. I'm just getting tired of them continually claiming faster architectures when in reality its faster clocks that 99% of the time was capable on the previous architecture no problem.
Not for the same TDP, which is entirely what Kabylake's process improvement was focused on. Look at the new Kabylake Core-Ms - they clock to 3.6ghz with a 4.5w TDP. The previous generation m7-6Y75 only went to 3.1 at the same TDP.
The process may not make that much of a difference on 90w processors but at 5-15w it's a pretty significant improvement.
Which is important, i agree, but that doesn't make a processor faster like Intel continually claims, that makes it more efficient. Again, which is great, especially for portable devices, but doesn't mean it's faster.
You don't state a car that goes 50mpg with the 200 horsepower is 15% faster then a car that goes 44mpg with the same 200 horsepower, it's just more efficient.
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#5428942 Posted on: 05/06/2017 11:11 PM
Wait a bit further, CannonLake is still old stuff since SandyBridge era, next step is x86 refresh with IceLake Arch
and by AMD around that time Zen+
I personally will wait until then ~ 2019-2020 and see what's up, this i7 Haswell is still more then enough
I'm waiting for Cannonlake, if it's just 15% better than 7th gen with 8 cores, i'll probably just buy a Ryzen 7 since they will go down on price by then and i bet Intel will overprice their CPUs like always. <_<
Wait a bit further, CannonLake is still old stuff since SandyBridge era, next step is x86 refresh with IceLake Arch
and by AMD around that time Zen+
I personally will wait until then ~ 2019-2020 and see what's up, this i7 Haswell is still more then enough
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#5428948 Posted on: 05/07/2017 12:08 AM
That ice lake refresh will be very, very welcome (if it's good). We've been riding this same wave for so long now. Still, I can't wait that long to get back hyperthreading plus six cores.
That ice lake refresh will be very, very welcome (if it's good). We've been riding this same wave for so long now. Still, I can't wait that long to get back hyperthreading plus six cores.
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#5429078 Posted on: 05/07/2017 02:23 PM
Only thing gained by another Intel refresh(cerainly isnt a generation change) is money leaving your pocket and entering Intels. My I7-56960x at 4.6Ghz is going to last me many more years to come. What we need is programmers to optimize their software you better use all cores/threads available.
Only thing gained by another Intel refresh(cerainly isnt a generation change) is money leaving your pocket and entering Intels. My I7-56960x at 4.6Ghz is going to last me many more years to come. What we need is programmers to optimize their software you better use all cores/threads available.
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#5429134 Posted on: 05/07/2017 06:24 PM
Skylake was released in 2015....
I dont know should i be amaze or sad.Its 3rd Gen cpu (From 6k to 8k) with in a year.I got 6700k 7-8 months ago.Indeed technology changes a lot.
Skylake was released in 2015....
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#5429498 Posted on: 05/08/2017 06:59 PM
if most people like people in here which is waiting until there is "real" improvement on cpu
then rather than buying upgrade, people just replacing failing rig parts
not sure how long mobo will last, it should can last 10years or within warranty period 2~3years if got bad luck... on average it last around 5~7years?
by then people replacing their mobo with cpu, as 5~7years since the time they bought their rig, most store no longer have mobo for the cpu in stock .... cheap way can buy second-hands ... but i think most people will just buy new mobo+cpu
possitive side is that we dont have to concern much about "good buying/upgrading time" ... because basically any cpu performance should be enough in its lifetime
if most people like people in here which is waiting until there is "real" improvement on cpu
then rather than buying upgrade, people just replacing failing rig parts
not sure how long mobo will last, it should can last 10years or within warranty period 2~3years if got bad luck... on average it last around 5~7years?
by then people replacing their mobo with cpu, as 5~7years since the time they bought their rig, most store no longer have mobo for the cpu in stock .... cheap way can buy second-hands ... but i think most people will just buy new mobo+cpu
possitive side is that we dont have to concern much about "good buying/upgrading time" ... because basically any cpu performance should be enough in its lifetime
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Isn't the Coffee Lakes the Kaby Lake refresh? By reading the last sentences seems there will be 3 CPU lines with Kaby Lake refresh being something different than Coffee Lake all launching this year. I'm confused.