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EVGA GTX 1070/1080 Card update - Almost All Of Them Have Overheating Issues

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 11/02/2016 10:10 AM | source: | 43 comment(s)
EVGA GTX 1070/1080 Card update - Almost All Of Them Have Overheating Issues

Two weeks ago we reported about the EVGA FTW 1080 and 1070 having overheating issues. Earlier reviews (including ours) exposed that the VRM area of their FTW and SC cards is getting seriously hot. In a dramatic turn of events, it is effecting pretty much all models 1070 and 1080 cards and from the looks of it, now 1060 cards as well.

After an initial simple fix (EVGA would send our thermal padding to those requesting it) the problem is far more extensive it seems, it might even effect their 1060 series as well. EVGA is now doing two things, issuing a new BIOS which "adjusts the fan speed curve" to "ensure sufficient cooling of all components across all operating temperatures" (read we're making things louder to create airflow).

EVGA continuously is mentioning and putting blame on FurMark to be the culprit. Even through we stopped using FurMark a long time ago due to its aggressive viral behaviour that is just not true. Look at the thermal image below:
  

 

On some, likely even many or all cards there is no decent enough cooling on and over the VRM area, (lack of thermal padding or the padding not touching a base-plate or component) causing it to overheat with any of the new ACX revision based graphics cards. Some cards as a results literally have burnt components. In our thermal image you can see the VRM Area reach close to 100 Degrees C, and we are NOT using Furmark but a looped 3DMark FireStrike sequence (Graphics test scene 1).

EVGA issued a new statement:

"Recently, it was reported from several sources, that the EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW PWM and memory temperature is running warmer than expected during Furmark (an extreme stress utility). EVGA has investigated these reports and after extensive testing, below are our findings:

  • On ACX 3.0, EVGA focused on GPU temperature and the lowest acoustic levels possible. Running Furmark, the GPU is around 70C +/- and the fan speed is running approximately 30% duty cycle or lower.
  • However, during recent testing, the thermal temperature of the PWM and memory, in extreme circumstances, was marginally within spec and needed to be addressed.

Conclusion: EVGA offers full warranty support on its products, with cross-ship RMA (available in the Continental United States, Hawaii, Alaska, Canada, EU, UK, Norway, and Switzerland. EVGA offers Standard RMA replacement options in the Middle East, Africa, India or outside of the before mentioned supported areas), and stands behind its products and commitment to our customers.

To resolve this, EVGA will be offering a VBIOS update, which adjusts the fan-speed curve to ensure sufficient cooling of all components across all operating temperatures. This VBIOS will be released in the next few days and users can download it and update their cards directly. This update resolves the potential thermal issues that have been reported, and ensures the card maintains safe operating temperatures.

For those users who want additional cooling beyond the VBIOS update, EVGA has optional thermal pads available. This update is not required, however; EVGA will make it available free of charge to any customer who is interested. To request the thermal pad kit, please visit www.evga.com/thermalmod.

Any customer who is not comfortable performing the recommended VBIOS update, may request a warranty cross-shipment to exchange the product to EVGA for an updated replacement. 

EVGA also released a FAQ with the graphics card models involved, clearly denotiung the 1060 now as well:

  • Q. Which cards are supported by these updates? 
  • A. EVGA ACX 3.0 GeForce GTX 1080, 1070 or 1060 cards with the following part numbers:
     
    GTX 1080GTX 1070GTX 1060 6GGTX 1060 3G
    08G-P4-6181 08G-P4-5171 06G-P4-6262 03G-P4-6365
    08G-P4-6183 08G-P4-5173 06G-P4-6366 03G-P4-6367
    08G-P4-6284 08G-P4-6171 06G-P4-6265
    08G-P4-6286 08G-P4-6173 06G-P4-6264
    08G-P4-6384 08G-P4-6274 06G-P4-6267
    08G-P4-6386 08G-P4-6276 06G-P4-6368
    06G-P4-6167
    06G-P4-6165

    * Founders Edition, Blower type, HYBRID, and HYDRO COPPER cards do not need these updates.

Q. If my Graphics Card is not an ACX 3.0 design is it affected?
A. No, all other GPUs sold by EVGA including Founders Edition, Blower type, HYBRID, and HYDRO COPPER editions are unaffected.
Q. Does the VBIOS fix the temperature issues?
A. Yes, the VBIOS update will fix the temperature issues.
Q. Is my card damaged from running at a higher temperature?
A. No, but should any future warranty service be needed, EVGA stands behind its products.
Q. What happens if my card is accidentally damaged during the optional thermal pad installation?
A. EVGA will stand behind its customers with full warranty and cross-shipment.
Q. What if I am not comfortable updating my VBIOS?
A. While EVGA has very user friendly ways to update VBIOS's, if you still do not feel comfortable, we will support you with and advanced RMA and ship you a replacement card with the latest VBIOS.

In this pretty dramatic step really, all graphics cards shipped from EVGA after 11/1/2016 will have the VBIOS update pre-applied.







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Lucifer
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#5353759 Posted on: 11/02/2016 09:55 AM
cost saving is common, though when it's done on critical components, it's just beyond retarded :(

JonasBeckman
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#5353761 Posted on: 11/02/2016 09:58 AM
Will adjusting the fan curve from a bios update even have much of a effect on the VRM components without making it seriously loud by really pushing up aggressiveness or how it's called for how quickly the fan ramps up after a certain heat threshold?
(Guessing a bit of tinkering in MSI Afterburner and it's fan curve editor could have a similar result or even better.)

Kaarme
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#5353769 Posted on: 11/02/2016 10:49 AM
see what happened to samsung note they wanted to save some cents too.. :wanker:


Didn't Samsung want to save some microns, rather than cents? It's not like phones would anymore be centimeters thick like in the early days.

Dburgo
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#5353772 Posted on: 11/02/2016 11:00 AM
I finally got some info that my pads are shipping as of yesterday when I went back to the website to order again. I did not receive any tracking information though, so I have no idea when it will arrive. In any case, I have thermal grizzly that I ordered the same day EVGA let me fill out the request. I'm not quite so sure why this thermal compound is so adorned. Most any thermal paste I've tried over the last 15 years does the same job if not better on my CPU. Just to make sure my application was consistant I even tried it 3 times. Does anyone here think the paste that comes with the package of pads would be better than this stuff? I guess I will have to try it out, and if I lose performance I'll use the compound that they send. :( What another gimp job now by the vendors. :((

Cbotha15
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#5353773 Posted on: 11/02/2016 11:03 AM
What to do?

I have a evga gtx 1070 sc. My concern is even when I get the thermal pads from EVGA and install them. What long term damage has already been done to the VRM's and mosfets due to prolonged usage without adequate cooling?

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