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European Core i7 8700K Coffee Lake prices Spotted in Germany
The European prices of the upcoming Coffee Lake processors have surfaced for the entire range of products, in this news item an overview. Of course Canadian prices already had been listed, but in the EU the pricing model differs quite a bit due to taxes and exchange rates.
Looking at the differences we see that Coffee Lake will be a bit more expensive compared to the current Core i5 and i7 lines. The Core i7 8700K with six-cores and one thread will cost €389,- the 8600K with six cores and threads €273. Below an overview of prices, cores and frequencies. The prices listed will differ here and there a bit basically due to differences of VAT per country.
| Processor | Cores / Threads | Base Clock | Turbo (6c) | Turbo (1c) | L3 | TDP | Price |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Core i7 8700K | 6/12 | 3.7 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 4.7 GHz | 12 MB | 95 W | € 389 |
| Core i7 8700 | 6/12 | 3.2 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 4.6 GHz | 12 MB | 65 W | € 327 |
| Core i5 8600K | 6/6 | 3.6 GHz | 4.1 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 9 MB | 95 W | € 273 |
| Core i5 8400 | 6/6 | 2.8 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 9 MB | 65 W | € 192 |
| Core i3 8350K | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | NA | NA | 8 MB | 91 W | € 189 |
| Core i3 8300 | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | NA | NA | 8 MB | 65 W | - |
| Core i3 8100 | 4/4 | 3.6 GHz | NA | NA | 6 MB | 65 W | € 123 |
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#5470795 Posted on: 09/10/2017 09:35 AM
Well in my honest opinion, i think it it €100-€120 too much, comparing with the price tag on caseking.de
The new coffee lake I7 is 7.56% faster then the 1600X at stock speed, using the leaked benchmarks by intel, it uses "Colgate TIM" vs soldered on AMD.
And people should stock comparing the new I7 with ryzen 7, the best and most honest comparison is vs 1600X.
My 1600X is a gold cpu (got lucky) it is clocked to 4.2GHZ all clocks with just 1.362V, and its uses a cheap air cooler and i manage to stay under 68ºC all the time. But the for all the ryzens that i build until now i have always managed to get 4.1 on the 1600X using no more then 1.37V.
I still think that at 1080 or 1440 the 1600X is king with either a RX 580/GTX1060 for 1080P, GTX1070/GTX1080/GTX1080TI/RXVEGA56 for 1440P. Because the difference in performance at 1080p is not more then 2 digit,
Well in my honest opinion, i think it it €100-€120 too much, comparing with the price tag on caseking.de
The new coffee lake I7 is 7.56% faster then the 1600X at stock speed, using the leaked benchmarks by intel, it uses "Colgate TIM" vs soldered on AMD.
And people should stock comparing the new I7 with ryzen 7, the best and most honest comparison is vs 1600X.
My 1600X is a gold cpu (got lucky) it is clocked to 4.2GHZ all clocks with just 1.362V, and its uses a cheap air cooler and i manage to stay under 68ºC all the time. But the for all the ryzens that i build until now i have always managed to get 4.1 on the 1600X using no more then 1.37V.
I still think that at 1080 or 1440 the 1600X is king with either a RX 580/GTX1060 for 1080P, GTX1070/GTX1080/GTX1080TI/RXVEGA56 for 1440P. Because the difference in performance at 1080p is not more then 2 digit,
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#5470797 Posted on: 09/10/2017 09:43 AM
In aus the 7700k is $459 and the 1800x is $659....even if the 8700k was $659 it would still be a way better cpu for the money, especially for gamers.
In aus the 7700k is $459 and the 1800x is $659....even if the 8700k was $659 it would still be a way better cpu for the money, especially for gamers.
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#5470803 Posted on: 09/10/2017 10:59 AM
Non-soldered / heat issues / One time mobo.
Non-soldered / heat issues / One time mobo.
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#5470804 Posted on: 09/10/2017 11:01 AM
I wish our prices were that nice...
But other than that, people don't usually buy the 1800x by the looks of it, since they are all unlocked, unlike Intel's offerings where you need to pay separately for every single little functionality. That being said, I'm sure these Coffee Lakes will kick ass. Too bad they are a few years late already.
In aus the 7700k is $459 and the 1800x is $659....even if the 8700k was $659 it would still be a way better cpu for the money, especially for gamers.
I wish our prices were that nice...
But other than that, people don't usually buy the 1800x by the looks of it, since they are all unlocked, unlike Intel's offerings where you need to pay separately for every single little functionality. That being said, I'm sure these Coffee Lakes will kick ass. Too bad they are a few years late already.
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#5470805 Posted on: 09/10/2017 11:05 AM
Those prices are what I expected but not what I hoped for.
Now the gaming performance will determine if those prices worth it.
Those prices are what I expected but not what I hoped for.
Now the gaming performance will determine if those prices worth it.
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#5470808 Posted on: 09/10/2017 11:14 AM
Well, best bang for buck will be i5-8600k for gamers i think 6/6 is more than enough for gaming. Then, we should wait and see what will zen2 bring on the table in terms of gaming.
In aus the 7700k is $459 and the 1800x is $659....even if the 8700k was $659 it would still be a way better cpu for the money, especially for gamers.
Well, best bang for buck will be i5-8600k for gamers i think 6/6 is more than enough for gaming. Then, we should wait and see what will zen2 bring on the table in terms of gaming.
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#5470809 Posted on: 09/10/2017 11:14 AM
So it´s basically the same prices as the previous 7700/7600K but with 2 extra cores.
I would be interested in the 8600K if it worked with my MB but it doesn´t so i´ll save the money for a future GPU.
I´m curious to see how well those parts are going to overclock with two more cores knowing how hot the 7700K can be with just 4 cores...
So it´s basically the same prices as the previous 7700/7600K but with 2 extra cores.
I would be interested in the 8600K if it worked with my MB but it doesn´t so i´ll save the money for a future GPU.
I´m curious to see how well those parts are going to overclock with two more cores knowing how hot the 7700K can be with just 4 cores...
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#5470814 Posted on: 09/10/2017 11:50 AM
So it´s basically the same prices as the previous 7700/7600K but with 2 extra cores.
I would be interested in the 8600K if it worked with my MB but it doesn´t so i´ll save the money for a future GPU.
I´m curious to see how well those parts are going to overclock with two more cores knowing how hot the 7700K can be with just 4 cores...
Don't forget it's non soldered. That means temp's will be once again all over the place.
So it´s basically the same prices as the previous 7700/7600K but with 2 extra cores.
I would be interested in the 8600K if it worked with my MB but it doesn´t so i´ll save the money for a future GPU.
I´m curious to see how well those parts are going to overclock with two more cores knowing how hot the 7700K can be with just 4 cores...
Don't forget it's non soldered. That means temp's will be once again all over the place.
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#5470818 Posted on: 09/10/2017 12:06 PM
It's a shame we had to wait for AMD to make a move so Intel would release this and some people don't even see that.
If AMD didn't exist, I would never need to get rid of my i5 2500k. Shame on you Intel, shame on you.
It's a shame we had to wait for AMD to make a move so Intel would release this and some people don't even see that.
If AMD didn't exist, I would never need to get rid of my i5 2500k. Shame on you Intel, shame on you.
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#5470819 Posted on: 09/10/2017 12:08 PM
That's 2 less theads than what is currently available...what I currently have, and it will have similar clocks and ipc as current chips. Maybe slightly better.
Why would any skylake or kaby lake owner uograde to a new cpu and new chipset and likely the cost of a new windows key....for likely no increase in performance.
That would be the worst case of sidegrade/downgrade insanity I have ever heard of.
Well, best bang for buck will be i5-8600k for gamers i think 6/6 is more than enough for gaming. Then, we should wait and see what will zen2 bring on the table in terms of gaming.
That's 2 less theads than what is currently available...what I currently have, and it will have similar clocks and ipc as current chips. Maybe slightly better.
Why would any skylake or kaby lake owner uograde to a new cpu and new chipset and likely the cost of a new windows key....for likely no increase in performance.
That would be the worst case of sidegrade/downgrade insanity I have ever heard of.
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#5470823 Posted on: 09/10/2017 01:01 PM
I'm still running 3570K so 8700K looks pretty tempting
I'm still running 3570K so 8700K looks pretty tempting
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#5470826 Posted on: 09/10/2017 01:32 PM
In aus the 7700k is $459 and the 1800x is $659....even if the 8700k was $659 it would still be a way better cpu for the money, especially for gamers.
Can you tell me why are you comparing the 1800X to the 7700K? Compare it to 1500X or maybe 1600/X. LMAO.
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And people should stock comparing the new I7 with ryzen 7, the best and most honest comparison is vs 1600X.
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Well, best bang for buck will be i5-8600k for gamers i think 6/6 is more than enough for gaming. Then, we should wait and see what will zen2 bring on the table in terms of gaming.
7600K is 6-7% faster (in the initial reviews, since than, Ryzen got faster in some games at least, like RotTR) in FHD gaming than the 1600, 2% faster in 1440P and equal in 4K. 8600K will be maybe 1-2% more compared to the 7600K. Speaking of the +50-60 EUR extra cost compared to the 1600 and the higher mobo prices (Z for the 7600K and B for the Ryzen) -combined, you may get a +100$ price tag -, I don't know how on earth can you say is best bang for buck.
So it´s basically the same prices as the previous 7700/7600K but with 2 extra cores.
No, not really. The prices raised for the K versions for about 30 EUR...
In aus the 7700k is $459 and the 1800x is $659....even if the 8700k was $659 it would still be a way better cpu for the money, especially for gamers.
Can you tell me why are you comparing the 1800X to the 7700K? Compare it to 1500X or maybe 1600/X. LMAO.
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And people should stock comparing the new I7 with ryzen 7, the best and most honest comparison is vs 1600X.
+100
Well, best bang for buck will be i5-8600k for gamers i think 6/6 is more than enough for gaming. Then, we should wait and see what will zen2 bring on the table in terms of gaming.
7600K is 6-7% faster (in the initial reviews, since than, Ryzen got faster in some games at least, like RotTR) in FHD gaming than the 1600, 2% faster in 1440P and equal in 4K. 8600K will be maybe 1-2% more compared to the 7600K. Speaking of the +50-60 EUR extra cost compared to the 1600 and the higher mobo prices (Z for the 7600K and B for the Ryzen) -combined, you may get a +100$ price tag -, I don't know how on earth can you say is best bang for buck.
So it´s basically the same prices as the previous 7700/7600K but with 2 extra cores.
No, not really. The prices raised for the K versions for about 30 EUR...
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#5470828 Posted on: 09/10/2017 01:45 PM
That's 2 less theads than what is currently available...what I currently have, and it will have similar clocks and ipc as current chips. Maybe slightly better.
Why would any skylake or kaby lake owner uograde to a new cpu and new chipset and likely the cost of a new windows key....for likely no increase in performance.
That would be the worst case of sidegrade/downgrade insanity I have ever heard of.
You seriously think hyperthreading is equal to a physical core?
That's 2 less theads than what is currently available...what I currently have, and it will have similar clocks and ipc as current chips. Maybe slightly better.
Why would any skylake or kaby lake owner uograde to a new cpu and new chipset and likely the cost of a new windows key....for likely no increase in performance.
That would be the worst case of sidegrade/downgrade insanity I have ever heard of.
You seriously think hyperthreading is equal to a physical core?
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#5470829 Posted on: 09/10/2017 01:46 PM
That's 2 less theads than what is currently available...what I currently have, and it will have similar clocks and ipc as current chips. Maybe slightly better.
Why would any skylake or kaby lake owner uograde to a new cpu and new chipset and likely the cost of a new windows key....for likely no increase in performance.
That would be the worst case of sidegrade/downgrade insanity I have ever heard of.
Not everyone has i7 and 6 real cores (i5-8600k) probably gonna beat 4 real cores with ht but not by a big margin. 8th gen will be better choice for people who have older systems like me.
That's 2 less theads than what is currently available...what I currently have, and it will have similar clocks and ipc as current chips. Maybe slightly better.
Why would any skylake or kaby lake owner uograde to a new cpu and new chipset and likely the cost of a new windows key....for likely no increase in performance.
That would be the worst case of sidegrade/downgrade insanity I have ever heard of.
Not everyone has i7 and 6 real cores (i5-8600k) probably gonna beat 4 real cores with ht but not by a big margin. 8th gen will be better choice for people who have older systems like me.
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Looks like i5 8600K is going to be closer to 300 euros over here if it's that much in Germany already. Not that it'd matter to me personally with Intel's decision of dropping the support of the previous two chipset gens.