European Core i7 8700K Coffee Lake prices Spotted in Germany

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/10/2017 09:35 AM | source: | 37 comment(s)

The European prices of the upcoming Coffee Lake processors have surfaced for the entire range of products, in this news item an overview. Of course Canadian prices already had been listed, but in the EU the pricing model differs quite a bit due to taxes and exchange rates.

Looking at the differences we see that Coffee Lake will be a bit more expensive compared to the current Core i5 and i7 lines. The Core i7 8700K with six-cores and one thread will cost €389,- the 8600K with six cores and threads €273. Below an overview of prices, cores and frequencies. The prices listed will differ here and there a bit basically due to differences of VAT per country.


Processor	Cores / Threads	Base Clock	Turbo (6c)	Turbo (1c)	L3	TDP	Price
Core i7 8700K	6/12	3.7 GHz	4.3 GHz	4.7 GHz	12 MB	95 W	€ 389
Core i7 8700	6/12	3.2 GHz	4.3 GHz	4.6 GHz	12 MB	65 W	€ 327
Core i5 8600K	6/6	3.6 GHz	4.1 GHz	4.3 GHz	9 MB	95 W	€ 273
Core i5 8400	6/6	2.8 GHz	3.8 GHz	4.0 GHz	9 MB	65 W	€ 192
Core i3 8350K	4/4	4.0 GHz	NA	NA	8 MB	91 W	€ 189
Core i3 8300	4/4	4.0 GHz	NA	NA	8 MB	65 W	-
Core i3 8100	4/4	3.6 GHz	NA	NA	6 MB	65 W	€ 123

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BReal85
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#5470830 Posted on: 09/10/2017 02:49 PM

fasamir: Nope, it won't beat it.

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#5470831 Posted on: 09/10/2017 03:06 PM

fasamir: Nope, it won't beat it.

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#5470837 Posted on: 09/10/2017 03:55 PM

That video review was one of the best and most comprehensive reviews I have ever watched and it paints ryzen in a much better light. It's a shame that on it's own it's hard to take it 100% seriously though as no other review showed ryzen to perform that well really. Looks like other reviewers focused too much on gpu limited games and average frame rates only.

I just subscribed to that channel too.
Actually that is not true. Techpowerup and Guru3d also made nice reviews, the former showing 6% difference to 7600K and 12% to 7700K in 1080P gaming. That is just a tiny disadvantage if you take prices and performances into account together. 1500X/1600/1600X costs much less than the 7700K for minimal gaming peformance loss, and getting the same or more amount of cores and threads. Comparing the same Ryzens to the 7600K, you get even less performance loss in FHD gaming, but for the same money (1600 and 1500X are even cheaper than the 7600K) you get more threads and/or cores, meaning that you can easily run other applications in the background without having performance loss. And of course the same is true when we compare 1600/1600X to 7700K. More cores-threads, much more versatile CPU for 120$ less (+ cheaper mobo). That's a lot bang for the buck.

The problem is most sites do not make enough benchmark for proper averaging. Benchmarking 3-4 games is simply not enough. You need to do at least 10 different games, even 15-20 to get a proper result.

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#5470848 Posted on: 09/10/2017 04:23 PM

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#5470871 Posted on: 09/10/2017 07:09 PM

Can you tell me why are you comparing the 1800X to the 7700K? Compare it to 1500X or maybe 1600/X. LMAO.

+100

7600K is 6-7% faster (in the initial reviews, since than, Ryzen got faster in some games at least, like RotTR) in FHD gaming than the 1600, 2% faster in 1440P and equal in 4K. 8600K will be maybe 1-2% more compared to the 7600K. Speaking of the +50-60 EUR extra cost compared to the 1600 and the higher mobo prices (Z for the 7600K and B for the Ryzen) -combined, you may get a +100$ price tag -, I don't know how on earth can you say is best bang for buck.

No, not really. The prices raised for the K versions for about 30 EUR...

If the price comparison is correct at the current prices in my country a 1600X will cost less 120€ compared to the I7-8700K.
To OC a 1600X you only need a b350 that supports OC memories too, and that for less the 100€.
On intel you will need a Z370 that is way over 100€++. And since the difference in performance between the 8700k and the 1600X is most probably under 2 digits slower then the new 8700K.
Remember that since Intel is moving the mainstream to 6C count all new software and games will have need to have support for at least 6C, so in MHO i think this is a win for AMD and specially for consumers wallets.
But i still think Shintel is risking too much with those high prices they are asking, they are betting too much on a market that they think is 90% blue.
Hopefully with the next release of the ryzen refresh on the same mobos, maybe intel keep supporting the Z370 when they release the Coffee lake refresh, but i dont have much faith on Intel doing this, they will probably force people to buy the coffee lake refresh with a new chip.....

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#5470954 Posted on: 09/11/2017 10:08 AM

Why people keep bringing the 1800x price to comparison to make the i7 look like better deals? With the 1700 out there is not even point doing that since the 1700 clocks about the same and costs 200 usd less. Also the maximun diference on fhd is with 1080ti , with 1070 ,1060 480 580 etc the diference is way smaller to non existant , i guess everyone on an i5 and i7 planning to get a 1080/ti then to play on 1080p!

Some people like myself buy 1080/1080Ti to game at 1080p 144Hz, so there is a market for that (albeit small).

But I hear ya, I don't get why the 1800X is being dragged into this discussion. The 1800X doesn't sell so well because price/performance is not that good, the 1700/1700X are what's killing its sales.

People will always find a reason to bullshit their way around their past and (apparently) future purchases when they're fanboys, don't you worry about that. They already know who they're buying, they're just trying to justify.

As for the news article itself, Intel apparently thinks they can shit on their consumers again; not exactly something new. I have a feeling it won't work this time though.

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#5470833 Posted on: 09/10/2017 03:17 PM

So, Now i5's sport 6 cores rather than 4 and people change their mind? "Yes, Now that intel does more than 4 cores, 6 core cpu's are perfect for gaming, Games love 6 cores" lmao Last week people said "Ryzen is awful, Games don't use more than 2 cores, if that" Good god people. Fanboyism much?

#5470834 Posted on: 09/10/2017 03:38 PM

People criticising ryzen criticised it's low max clocks and ipc as a result of the focus on cores. No one said more cores won't be benificial, and anyone who isn't insane did 't expect a 6 core non hyperthreading cpu to somehow be magically better for gaming than a 4 core 8 thread i7....I don't know how you are combining those 2 separate things into one.

#5470845 Posted on: 09/10/2017 04:19 PM

The argument is that Ryzen will perform worse in the games not using the additional cores/threads, whereas the Coffee Lake CPUs will perform well in both the single threaded and multithreaded games

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#5470880 Posted on: 09/10/2017 08:22 PM

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#5470903 Posted on: 09/10/2017 10:47 PM

And no actual link to the shop? www.lambda-tek.de
I'm a bit confused with the prices actually, is Intel trying to convince us of its not being concerned with Ryzen at all? I mean, 8700K should completely demolish Ryzen 1600X to cost so much, which I highly doubt it will tbh.

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#5470973 Posted on: 09/11/2017 11:22 AM

I have a feeling it won't work this time though.

It will, people are stupid and there's allot of fanboys out there.

#5470980 Posted on: 09/11/2017 11:53 AM

Thinking about it I think you're right actually. As much as we'll support the better option, there are always at least twice as many fanboys buying with their arse.

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#5470995 Posted on: 09/11/2017 01:16 PM

If you check benchmarks, yes.

Nobody should care about benchmarks as old or bugged as that.

The 8600K will be slower in games compared to the 7700K. That's 99% probability.

Yeah, playing old and current games. It ought to change in a number of years, and I don't like to change my PC every other year. In the mean time pretty much everything else heavier is faster with 6 cores than 4. Some of us use our PCs for things other than gaming as well, after all.