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Eight core Coffee Lake Processor Finally Spotted?
It has been topic of discussion for many months now, ever since the 'Z390 chipset' surfaced on a roadmap and a company kind of leaked that it was intended for an 8-core processor, it became silent though, from the looks of it, it's for real.
Over at Videocardz, they spotted an entry in the Futuremark, and indeed that very much looks like an 8-core processor that is actually listed as Coffee Lake. The processor is listed as a generic, and that means the motherboard firmware microcode has not been updated or recognizing the processor. That base-clock could be misread, or this is a very early engineering sample.
The Z390 chipset has been spotted on several roadmaps and slides, so at one point we do need to understand what it is intended for eh? Anyway, the CPU is listed at 8-cores and 16-threads, the rest of the stuff looks erroneous, including the listed base clock. The testing platform is listed as Intel Corporation CoffeeLake S82 UDIMM RVP, likely an engineering board.
It will not be released in April though, that moment is for H370 and B360 chipsets and a few new Coffee Lake respin procs, this later. Also, there has been a rumor about the Z370 chipset, it would have been incompatible with Skylake and Kaby Lake due to Intel's preparations for an 8-core CPU.
Make of it what you will, but we're certain of one fact, Intel does not like the fact that AMD has 8-core processors available in the mainstream segment, while they do not.
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#5529850 Posted on: 03/20/2018 09:05 PM
The intel "unicorn" was finally spotted? Even if it's just a tail but still...
The intel "unicorn" was finally spotted? Even if it's just a tail but still...
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#5529859 Posted on: 03/20/2018 09:21 PM
As much as I want one, I rather save my kidneys for later.
As much as I want one, I rather save my kidneys for later.
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#5529862 Posted on: 03/20/2018 09:26 PM
Probably just two dies glued together.
Probably just two dies glued together.
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#5529895 Posted on: 03/20/2018 11:36 PM
OUCH! Right in intels nut sack!
Probably just two dies glued together.
OUCH! Right in intels nut sack!
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#5529901 Posted on: 03/21/2018 12:10 AM
Pentium D anyone? Q6600 anyone?
HAHA though.
Probably just two dies glued together.
Pentium D anyone? Q6600 anyone?
HAHA though.
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#5529903 Posted on: 03/21/2018 12:25 AM
Pentium D anyone? Q6600 anyone?
HAHA though.
Q6600 was superb
I used it to replaced my E7200@4GHz (super low voltage)
Ran it at 3.2GHz i think... 3.6GHz was not fully stable.
8700K incoming...I'm slightly worried that ACIV backplate in 1st PCIEe will clash with Noctua NH-D15 (Asus Hero X)
Pentium D anyone? Q6600 anyone?
HAHA though.
Q6600 was superb
I used it to replaced my E7200@4GHz (super low voltage)
Ran it at 3.2GHz i think... 3.6GHz was not fully stable.
8700K incoming...I'm slightly worried that ACIV backplate in 1st PCIEe will clash with Noctua NH-D15 (Asus Hero X)
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#5529924 Posted on: 03/21/2018 02:14 AM
Tempting, but no.
Will see what's up with 9th gen IceLake (@10nm+), apparently also due in 2018, they've split CannonLake to laptops and IceLike will be using its improved 10nm process, kind of like what KabbyLake is to Skylake.
I've also read somewhere that this IceLake and improved 10nm++ TigerLake will have next-gen x86, dropping older SIMID for newer executions and more of them, older will be emulated.
Tempting, but no.
Will see what's up with 9th gen IceLake (@10nm+), apparently also due in 2018, they've split CannonLake to laptops and IceLike will be using its improved 10nm process, kind of like what KabbyLake is to Skylake.
I've also read somewhere that this IceLake and improved 10nm++ TigerLake will have next-gen x86, dropping older SIMID for newer executions and more of them, older will be emulated.
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#5529925 Posted on: 03/21/2018 02:19 AM
Q6600 was superb
I used it to replaced my E7200@4GHz (super low voltage)
Ran it at 3.2GHz i think... 3.6GHz was not fully stable.
8700K incoming...I'm slightly worried that ACIV backplate in 1st PCIEe will clash with Noctua NH-D15 (Asus Hero X)
I had a q6600 @ 3.75 with 1.4v, it would do 4GHZ @ 1.52v.
I had that rig for almost 4 years.
Q6600@ 3.75
MSI P35 Neo2
4GB Wintec AMP X DDR2 800 @ 1000
OCZ 850w
HiS HD 5770 1GB ICEQ Turbo 5
EVGA 9800GTX + 512mb for Physx
Ultra X Blaster Case
160GB OS
320GB steam drive
1TB storage drive.
It was a good chip but it was not a true quadcore. No 775 quads were.
Q6600 was superb
I used it to replaced my E7200@4GHz (super low voltage)
Ran it at 3.2GHz i think... 3.6GHz was not fully stable.
8700K incoming...I'm slightly worried that ACIV backplate in 1st PCIEe will clash with Noctua NH-D15 (Asus Hero X)
I had a q6600 @ 3.75 with 1.4v, it would do 4GHZ @ 1.52v.
I had that rig for almost 4 years.
Q6600@ 3.75
MSI P35 Neo2
4GB Wintec AMP X DDR2 800 @ 1000
OCZ 850w
HiS HD 5770 1GB ICEQ Turbo 5
EVGA 9800GTX + 512mb for Physx
Ultra X Blaster Case
160GB OS
320GB steam drive
1TB storage drive.
It was a good chip but it was not a true quadcore. No 775 quads were.
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#5529982 Posted on: 03/21/2018 08:42 AM
well, when it does arrive, it will be nice to see what watts and heat it will produce at the same frequency as a the ryzen. And I think in that area the ryzen will win, because intel's 6 coffee cupper is a hottish chip already
well, when it does arrive, it will be nice to see what watts and heat it will produce at the same frequency as a the ryzen. And I think in that area the ryzen will win, because intel's 6 coffee cupper is a hottish chip already
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#5530056 Posted on: 03/21/2018 01:09 PM
So Ryzens are severely limited by the dual channel as well, is that the thing you wanted to propose?
I wonder how it will behave in real world workloads on all cores. Because if Cores were originally designed as 4C/8T to work with dual channel and high end platform 8C/16T working with quad... there may be quite some bottleneck outside of synthetic benchmark workloads.
So Ryzens are severely limited by the dual channel as well, is that the thing you wanted to propose?
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#5530148 Posted on: 03/21/2018 04:18 PM
So once again, only with new MB and chipset, even for same 8xxx line?
So once again, only with new MB and chipset, even for same 8xxx line?
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#5530168 Posted on: 03/21/2018 05:13 PM
Yes something like that, hey' gotta milk it to the max before moving on to 9000 series.
Imo 9000 series is worth waiting. It will be the first with a new architecture, no more SandyBridge roots.. Second half 2018, probably Q3, is the release date.
This is also that new hw fixed meltdown and spectre processor.
So once again, only with new MB and chipset, even for same 8xxx line?
Yes something like that, hey' gotta milk it to the max before moving on to 9000 series.
Imo 9000 series is worth waiting. It will be the first with a new architecture, no more SandyBridge roots.. Second half 2018, probably Q3, is the release date.
This is also that new hw fixed meltdown and spectre processor.
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#5530188 Posted on: 03/21/2018 05:53 PM
Ryzen was not developed to be sold as 4C/8T. Its IMC behaves differently (read AMD's IMC is now better than intel's) as can be seen on comparison of EPYC vs intel's workstation solutions.
So Ryzens are severely limited by the dual channel as well, is that the thing you wanted to propose?
Ryzen was not developed to be sold as 4C/8T. Its IMC behaves differently (read AMD's IMC is now better than intel's) as can be seen on comparison of EPYC vs intel's workstation solutions.
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#5530227 Posted on: 03/21/2018 07:36 PM
At 2.2ghz it better be super highly optimised cpu, or it gona have some shitty unicorn performance
The intel "unicorn" was finally spotted? Even if it's just a tail but still... :p
At 2.2ghz it better be super highly optimised cpu, or it gona have some shitty unicorn performance
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I wonder how it will behave in real world workloads on all cores. Because if Cores were originally designed as 4C/8T to work with dual channel and high end platform 8C/16T working with quad... there may be quite some bottleneck outside of synthetic benchmark workloads.