Download: GeForce 398.86 hotfix driver

#5572202 Posted on: 08/09/2018 12:32 PM

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I thought G-sync stuttering was fixed at first but nope it happened again today. Sometimes launching the game again will fix it or just disable it from nv control panel.

#5572226 Posted on: 08/09/2018 01:42 PM

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Sometimes I get FPS drop/stutter from Gsync, the only solution that works is alt-tab back and forth.

Sad really that Gsync costs price premium and they still haven't fixed it.

I hope next Vega delivers, so I can ditch towards a Freesync display.

#5572231 Posted on: 08/09/2018 02:07 PM

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Sometimes I get FPS drop/stutter from Gsync, the only solution that works is alt-tab back and forth.

Sad really that Gsync costs price premium and they still haven't fixed it.

I hope next Vega delivers, so I can ditch towards a Freesync display.

The sad thing is not that it doesn't work. It's that it makes it worse than not having a G-sync monitor. Its its only purpose... Have had this monitor for 30 months and easily half of that time was spent with Gsync issues.

#5572263 Posted on: 08/09/2018 04:22 PM

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I have a gsync monitor and this sounds like pure hyperbole... Even this issue was a minor stutter in windowed mode, you must have other issues bud.

#5572281 Posted on: 08/09/2018 05:07 PM

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That gets fixed depending on driver version? Don't know...

#5572322 Posted on: 08/09/2018 06:58 PM

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We all can agree to disagree, but compared to say summer 2017 - Overall Gsync experience is Better.

I just hope the iron out all the issues soon.

#5572334 Posted on: 08/09/2018 07:31 PM

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I still haven't updated to Windows 10 1803. Maybe that's why I never had any issues with g-sync yet.

I even postponed the 1709 update until a couple months ago. I only did it when MS basically had a gun come out of the monitor, telling me "update now, or else" :p (Meaning no more Windows Updates if I don't install 1709.)

I intend to do the same with 1803. These updates just seem to create problems for people left and right.

#5572338 Posted on: 08/09/2018 07:40 PM

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I still haven't updated to Windows 10 1803. Maybe that's why I never had any issues with g-sync yet.

I even postponed the 1709 update until a couple months ago. I only did it when MS basically had a gun come out of the monitor, telling me "update now, or else" :p (Meaning no more Windows Updates if I don't install 1709.)

I intend to do the same with 1803. These updates just seem to create problems for people left and right.
Well, I'm sitting on LTSB, which is 1607. Haven't had those issues people report with massive constant stutter on latest builds, but what I have now and then is super lag/fps drop when switching windows or launching a game.

An easy fix is to alt-tab in and out. Other than that all is smooth.

However, around 1 year ago it was much worse in my opinion as those issues were also common during the Fullscreen + Windowed option, where some windows on a desktop would lag. This they fixed, thank god.

#5572365 Posted on: 08/09/2018 09:40 PM

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no stuttering here on 1803, at least not the few games I run (mainly BF4, BF1 etc).
I don't run Gsync or Vsync so maybe that has something to do.

To be honest I can't tell a difference the last yr or two with my GTX970, all runs about the same.

#5572446 Posted on: 08/10/2018 05:33 AM

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no stuttering here on 1803, at least not the few games I run (mainly BF4, BF1 etc).
I don't run Gsync or Vsync so maybe that has something to do.

To be honest I can't tell a difference the last yr or two with my GTX970, all runs about the same.
Conversation was in specific about Gsync and stutter issues it causes.

#5572519 Posted on: 08/10/2018 11:56 AM

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Got ya and one of many reasons I never got a Gsync monitor, too many reported issues along with price plus I can't be bothered by Vsync anyway.

#5572522 Posted on: 08/10/2018 12:19 PM

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Gsync works perfectly fine, has some hiccups here and there. For me, this technology is essential as its benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. But then again as you point out, for a price premium you should expect 0 issues like that over such a prolonged period of time.

But then again, companies like Apple get away with it, so do many others.

#5572534 Posted on: 08/10/2018 12:56 PM

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Have to agree with others there that despite the issues with G-SYNC and windowed/borderless windowed games (such as Unity Engines ones), that it is a godsend for me as someone who hates inconsistent framerates (framepacing issues) and screen tearing. Since moving from a 60 Hz display with 60 fps v-synced games to a 165 Hz display with variable up to 165 fps gameplay, it has been the most exciting thing to happen to PC gaming in a long time and makes gaming on consoles feel like stepping back into the Dark Ages! For the most part, G-SYNC works transparently and without me having to do anything other than enable it. It is a far-cry from the awful experience I had with SLI for example which requires so much tinkering to get games working that I vowed never to use it again.

Most of the issues with G-SYNC though seem (IMO) to be caused by Microsoft who seem to have a tendency to break everything these days (my ASUS PG279Q monitor's Turbo button no longer works for example and Groove after the last update has started showing newly added music as Unknown Artist/Unknown Album even though Windows Media Player, iTunes and MediaMonkey read the same files just fine!). I actually feel sorry for NVIDIA as these twice yearly updates for Windows with new versions of WDDM means that every 6 months something gets broken and Microsoft never seem to fix anything quickly, only really obscure bugs and ones for Internet Explorer (who even uses that these days)!

#5573210 Posted on: 08/13/2018 04:42 AM

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Yep new Radeon Crimson / Adrenalin drivers, features and new UI were quite good, had a chance to use them for a while when I still had an R9 290.

Older Catalyst drivers had "vintage" control panel too but once Catalyst was replaced with Crimson UI was revamped.

I'd love to switch back to AMD, hope next gen of AMD cards do better versus NV than Vega did.
Vega seemed solid but there just wasn't enough incentive to choose Vega over a corresponding GeForce card. Plus not enough of an upgrade over my current GPU to warrant a purchase anyhow.



Of course, but almost every WHQL being immediately followed by a hotfix (or sometimes two) is pretty hilarious.

I know what you mean, VEGA on paper was actually pretty good and they could of took a chunk of market share if they priced the V64 around the GTX1070 level and the V56 around the magic £200-£250 price range. That would of spurred on Nvidia to maybe drop prices too or release newer cards which they obviously have been sitting on for at least a year now. But alas, corporate greed kicked AMD in a nut sack and miners influenced retailers to make up the prices massively and AMD's inability to feed the market with enough GPU's the prices only increased even more.

I will 100% be waiting for the next AMD cards, my GTX1080 and GTX1070 (second PC itx build) will serve me right for 1440p desktop gaming and 1080p living room gaming for a while to come. VEGA 20 looks like it will be good, I just hope to god that the cryptocurrency market stays as dead as it has dropped to now or the rumours are true and AMD actually block mining at a hardware level for "gamer cards" and then released an "miners card" with unlocked mining features. I am not sure if this is possible, or people would probably just flash the firmware to unlock the cards.

#5573219 Posted on: 08/13/2018 06:55 AM

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Next gen of both NV and AMD cards should be pretty interesting as NV is implementing ray tracing and adaptive TAA. AMD will likely (hopefully?) follow suite or have something unique of their own.

Been a while since new generation of graphics cards also meant completely new features.

Either way AMD needs to at least equal NV in performance while offering a more affordable card to properly compete. Especially in the mid to high performance segment (NV will most likely offer the fastest cards still).
Vega 56 and 64 are cheaper than the NV cards they aim to rival, but also slower. Except it seems in Vulkan games but those are still rare.

Ofc would like nothing better than to have AMD have the fastest card on the market but we won't be quite there yet I believe with next gen.