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#5751281 Posted on: 01/16/2020 11:10 AM
Thats the issue. It misses the target value of my custom fan profile. It does its own thing. On every boot i i have to reset it, its ridiculous. Pre 2020 driver it was fine. Btw, overclock and other settings set in wattman have no issues.
Thats the issue. It misses the target value of my custom fan profile. It does its own thing. On every boot i i have to reset it, its ridiculous. Pre 2020 driver it was fine. Btw, overclock and other settings set in wattman have no issues.
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#5751303 Posted on: 01/16/2020 12:29 PM
Yep it's kinda varied from one GPU model to another, Navi might be pulling it's usual downclocking if the GPU isn't under any heavier workload, Vega might miss it's boost clock and VII might have voltage issues and as a result get lower than expected clocks.
Think the 300 series suffered from a possible lock to VRAM clocks though there's also the behavior with higher clock speeds on high-refresh displays.
Fan issue seems to be some mix of more hardcoded base values against particularly the custom designs and fan controllers and how it gets interpreted but also the idle almost zero fan mode and how this then spins up and works when the GPU is under load.
Even the reference models are affected though so it's not just a misstep with third party models and how the settings are read and then utilized from bios and what not.
19.7.2 for Navi seems to be where these GPU's acted up a bit in relation to the hystersis and fan target temperature with AMD setting other limits or locking it via the driver and software and then Adrenaline 2020 for whatever reason made additional changes.
The GPU should be around the first or second target and a lower speed if the curve was followed instead it often boosts into the later states or even the final state where it's close to max speed and gradually throttles down, up, down and so on.
Temps meanwhile are around 60 - 70 junction so around 50 at most 60 Celsius for edge or surface sensors.
Mixing up the GPU behavior (Fans kick in around 65 Celsius.) with AMD's software (Lowered temperature range and different behaviors for the lowest and highest states.) plus overall being very imprecise though yeah some users get around this by loading the profile again once or twice and that can work at least for a while.
Stepping system and this behavior with overall precision does also affect other GPU's though I'm not sure as to the specifics but well since prior drivers handle it better it's a software thing and what I hope is a priority for upcoming fixes to Wattman because it's hard to use it reliably when it's off by even just a small amount after all.
Been a bit of a thing since Vega at least and the Wattman 2019 changes but getting it worse is quite a development instead of making it more robust so hopefully this will follow quickly now after the Adrenaline 2020 layout changes and stuff is done with.
Never really can tell if it's a design choice or some limitation or just from AMD trying to keep Wattman simple but then the Overdrive API and what not acts up and the settings don't always work as expected or the hardware does it's own thing depending on which GPU and what settings are used which all could be improved upon.
(Well the 2020 changes didn't really add any functionality it just altered the layout somehow making it less readable and more complicated with folded menus and additional toggles on stuff for whatever reason.)
Yep it's kinda varied from one GPU model to another, Navi might be pulling it's usual downclocking if the GPU isn't under any heavier workload, Vega might miss it's boost clock and VII might have voltage issues and as a result get lower than expected clocks.
Think the 300 series suffered from a possible lock to VRAM clocks though there's also the behavior with higher clock speeds on high-refresh displays.
Fan issue seems to be some mix of more hardcoded base values against particularly the custom designs and fan controllers and how it gets interpreted but also the idle almost zero fan mode and how this then spins up and works when the GPU is under load.
Even the reference models are affected though so it's not just a misstep with third party models and how the settings are read and then utilized from bios and what not.
19.7.2 for Navi seems to be where these GPU's acted up a bit in relation to the hystersis and fan target temperature with AMD setting other limits or locking it via the driver and software and then Adrenaline 2020 for whatever reason made additional changes.
The GPU should be around the first or second target and a lower speed if the curve was followed instead it often boosts into the later states or even the final state where it's close to max speed and gradually throttles down, up, down and so on.
Temps meanwhile are around 60 - 70 junction so around 50 at most 60 Celsius for edge or surface sensors.
Mixing up the GPU behavior (Fans kick in around 65 Celsius.) with AMD's software (Lowered temperature range and different behaviors for the lowest and highest states.) plus overall being very imprecise though yeah some users get around this by loading the profile again once or twice and that can work at least for a while.
Stepping system and this behavior with overall precision does also affect other GPU's though I'm not sure as to the specifics but well since prior drivers handle it better it's a software thing and what I hope is a priority for upcoming fixes to Wattman because it's hard to use it reliably when it's off by even just a small amount after all.

Been a bit of a thing since Vega at least and the Wattman 2019 changes but getting it worse is quite a development instead of making it more robust so hopefully this will follow quickly now after the Adrenaline 2020 layout changes and stuff is done with.
Never really can tell if it's a design choice or some limitation or just from AMD trying to keep Wattman simple but then the Overdrive API and what not acts up and the settings don't always work as expected or the hardware does it's own thing depending on which GPU and what settings are used which all could be improved upon.
(Well the 2020 changes didn't really add any functionality it just altered the layout somehow making it less readable and more complicated with folded menus and additional toggles on stuff for whatever reason.)
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#5751309 Posted on: 01/16/2020 12:52 PM
Locked up computer on install. Force reboot then installed again and fine. Not tried games yet.
Locked up computer on install. Force reboot then installed again and fine. Not tried games yet.
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#5751310 Posted on: 01/16/2020 01:05 PM
Whatever AMD is doing with their new drivers from December is a total joke. My Vega refuse to work properly with any of these new drivers. My games keep freezing and even my desktop experience is utterly bad. My Chrome browser just display a black screen. I tried it again last night after a DDU with no luck. My games freez with standard clocks and 100% fan speed with the card at 55C. Put the old November 2019 driver on and bam all problems solved. I hate this new drivers so much that I will seriously just throw my card out and go buy a Nvidia card once their Ampere cards come out. How on earth do you break a perfectly working thing and then you don't know how to fix it?
Whatever AMD is doing with their new drivers from December is a total joke. My Vega refuse to work properly with any of these new drivers. My games keep freezing and even my desktop experience is utterly bad. My Chrome browser just display a black screen. I tried it again last night after a DDU with no luck. My games freez with standard clocks and 100% fan speed with the card at 55C. Put the old November 2019 driver on and bam all problems solved. I hate this new drivers so much that I will seriously just throw my card out and go buy a Nvidia card once their Ampere cards come out. How on earth do you break a perfectly working thing and then you don't know how to fix it?
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Aside from the fan using P0 or what to call it and being mostly idle it kinda works here but with the caveats since 19.7.2 where it often misses the target value or ramps up and then slowly adjusts down to around the target but it's also often off by 5 - 10% or so for speeds and temps both making it kinda difficult to set up something effective.
Fan curve being a bit like a steppladder and Wattman again being a bit imprecise on how it switches can also be a challenge to adjust for or just using third party software (Afterburner mainly.) trying to force a custom curvature instead.
Issues with hibernation, sleep and fast boot kinda resetting Wattman as if it had crashes / driver had crashed do still persist however and interfere same as before and well that kinda needs to be resolved.
Not hitting the clocks, missing or ignoring boost or voltage values or locking into fixed clocks for Vega, Polaris and the Radeon VII is also a thing that really needs to be looked at to make Wattman more well usable in addition to quirks with Navi and overall what you set and what you actually get.
EDIT: More exposed options or bringing back earlier still kinda used options wouldn't hurt either.
Hystersis or how fast the fan reacts up or down for one thing and the earlier target temperature too.
Fixing the imprecision of these settings and other errors would be a priority over new features though.