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Device ID 687F:C1 surfaces in AOTS - has VEGA 10 aka Radeon RX 490 been spotted ?
Over the weekend, well just before it actually a new entry in the Ashes of the Singularity database appeared, it's coded under number 687F:C1, and that does point a little to the product that should slay the GTX 1080, the Radeon RX 490.
Hardware ID's in the AOTS database show up if the driver has not gotten a proper name lined up with the Device ID. It is not the first time that something like this happens. The hardware ID 687F:C1 is definitely AMD, no doubt there and in fact is a device ID close to Polaris. The more interesting fact is that the results are faster, much faster then the Radeon RX 480. So if it's true, it might be the Radeon RX 490 (I mean what else could it be?). A lot of things are unknown about the Radeon RX 490, but it is rumored to get 8GB HBM2 memory and would be based on a GPU with 4096 shader processors. That means 64 Compute Units, multiply that with 64 shader processors per cluster and you'll get to the 4096 shader processors. The GPU will be paired with either 8 or 16 GB HBM2 memory at an up-to 512 GB/s memory bandwidth, logic would dictate 8GB though.
A few months ago AMD's Radeon Technologies Group (RTG) chief Raja Koduri tweeted that development of "Vega10" had just crossed a milestone, although it's a long way to go before you can see it". A little while ago an RX 490 entry was shortly listed on AMDs own website as well.
The product with ID 687F:C1 scores an average framerate of 88 FPS. In comparison, with the same settings a GeForce GTX 1080 would be in the 70~75 FPS range with the factory overclocked parts in that same 80~85 FPS region. Intersting times.
Check the thumbnails for result.
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#5366875 Posted on: 12/06/2016 10:22 AM
And that is what matters at the end. AMD used aggressive prices for the RX series and it seem they will do the same with Zen. What if will be like that also with this new card? I just checked Amazon and the 1080 has insane prices. What would you prefer, buying a slightly slower card for way less, or buying a slightly faster card for a lot more? Personally I'd go with the first option.
This better not be Vega.. It scored lower than 3 other 1080 results with a score of 8500 and which this unknown card, only scored 8400. How much more driver optimization could the card have that blows the 1080 out of the water? I am sure the 1080ti would beat that, albiet it would cost more money I suppose.. 
And that is what matters at the end. AMD used aggressive prices for the RX series and it seem they will do the same with Zen. What if will be like that also with this new card? I just checked Amazon and the 1080 has insane prices. What would you prefer, buying a slightly slower card for way less, or buying a slightly faster card for a lot more? Personally I'd go with the first option.
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#5366897 Posted on: 12/06/2016 11:09 AM
For the sake of competition and the people actually buying AMD's mystery product, I hope it's not a CFX card. This would be a great fail these days, as mGPU is on it's decline in every way, not just SLI.
That said, if some CFX card from AMD pulls Nvidia out of hiding to release their 1080Ti or any Pascal refresh stuff, I'd be happily reading the comparison benchmarks.
For the sake of competition and the people actually buying AMD's mystery product, I hope it's not a CFX card. This would be a great fail these days, as mGPU is on it's decline in every way, not just SLI.
That said, if some CFX card from AMD pulls Nvidia out of hiding to release their 1080Ti or any Pascal refresh stuff, I'd be happily reading the comparison benchmarks.
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#5366907 Posted on: 12/06/2016 11:27 AM
I really hope they don't go with a dual chip card but I have a bad feeling about this. Please let me be wrong.
I really hope they don't go with a dual chip card but I have a bad feeling about this. Please let me be wrong.
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#5366911 Posted on: 12/06/2016 11:32 AM
seriously, Nvidia comes out with the speed first.. Its 6 months later and AMD "might" have something competitive? Although I paid more for my card, I got 6 months worth for the competitors next best thing. So $ is slightly objective in this situation. Now had they come out at the same time... Of course a closely competitive product with lower pricing is the no brainer.. This is some dual crap solution is my guess, and NOT Vega.
seriously, Nvidia comes out with the speed first.. Its 6 months later and AMD "might" have something competitive? Although I paid more for my card, I got 6 months worth for the competitors next best thing. So $ is slightly objective in this situation. Now had they come out at the same time... Of course a closely competitive product with lower pricing is the no brainer.. This is some dual crap solution is my guess, and NOT Vega.
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Whatether the f... is, 490 or Vega, AMD will probably show it on december 13, paired with the new Zen cpu.
One more week of wait.